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fingers · 12-18-06, 10:08

Ohhkay,

I've been doing a lot of digging through the archives lately, and figure it's time to grab the bull by the horns and learn some ish.
the popcorns comming along to 100% (finally) and I've decided to do up some cakes as well as a serious 1st attempt at bulk.

I was reading up on additives amoung other things, and figure the best way to gain some understanding on what may or may not work is to become familiar with some of the additives that do.

From what I've read in more then a few posts in the archives, your supercake formula produces some outstanding results, so I'm using that as a blueprint to start off with. This is what I've managed to find.

(Blooms brand) Kelp granules.
http://www.thexton.com.au/product/Bl...__Powder__200g

(Lotus Brand) Shredded coconut.
An australian all organic brand

flax (AKA Linseeds (not many ppl know them as flax here).

And the flax like the rice i buy is biorganic and packed by the health food store i use. Great source of info them people.

Now, do you use flax whole or are there any benefits to be had by grinding (some or all) of them into a flour?

Also, a question on the Bee Pollen.
i dont know if it's similarly priced in the U.S, but here it was near on $30 for a fairly small Jar. Is it really that effective an additive? or is it just a lot more modestly priced in the U.S?

I plan on trying my hand at some agar work, but the store had sold out. I grabbed some pectin for now, but wont start until I have some agar also. (maybe do a side by side for my own learning). I'm thinking of going a PDA for now as I've read pectin contams far more easily then agar and dont want all my eggs in the one basket (especially a contam prone one).

I also got an assortment of vessels. My first shot at cakes was a little bit of a disaster. I'm hoping with the benefit of heinseight from the last batch i can see some better results.
The KFC tubs i think I've mentioned in past. I noticed they use a PP6, and they're also 250 ml (half pint) so i figured i'd give them a shot.
The cute little KFC managerette was happy to help, and took a couple of coins for 10 of them).
I also grabbed some Glad tubs, for cakes and casings. And found these bags that i thought might be handy. Could someone who has some experience with bags (with polyfil ports) give me an opinion on this idea.
Do you think one port of this size might work? Or would a larger wad of polyfil be advisable?

I like the labels on these bags. If nothing else they're great for clean storage. (i luv the slide too).

The slide feels pretty damn sturdy and bites down tight on the polyfil. I'm fairly confident it's a tight enough seal, I'm just unsure if one port like this will offer enough FAE for this amount of sub.
Looking at this image now though, i'd think a larger wad would be wiser.

I'm using my Nylex tubs for myco purposes now that the canna is going on the back burner, so I might bang up a monotub. (didn't see it at the time lamma suggested it

)

And the last idea I'm batting around is fruiting bulk sub right through brown paperbags. I realised contams would be a far greater concern with paperbags, so I'll be incubating them in one of the nylex tubs also to offer some added protection.
I've been reading as much as i could find on overlay lately as i found it to be a major problem with my high coir content casing. The pillow case tek always interested me, bags interested me, so a paperbag just seemed like a happy medium.
I'm wondering if higher risk of contams would outweight the reduction (if any) in overlay, i really dont know. (special thanks to Lamma again for all the help/advice)

I love these tubs. 100% opague and very hardwaring.

I still have a few bits and pieces to chase up. I wont start the cakes until I have decent corn meal at least.

Anyway, thanks for sharing the recipe. I would have thought your personal recipe would be closely a guarded secret. It really does get me wondering how many different food sources you would have tried to come to such a specific recipe.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the results.

Much appreciated.

P.S For anyone with an interest in the wager/debate, that casing has not contamed, I've patched it once today and should see some fruit real soon. (damn temps are still 6-10 degrees lower then ideal, and being a bitch to stabilise still). Take care.

12-18-06, 10:08	#20 (permalink)
fingers Mycotopiate Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 350	A couple Q's for Hip on additives etc. Ohhkay, I've been doing a lot of digging through the archives lately, and figure it's time to grab the bull by the horns and learn some ish. the popcorns comming along to 100% (finally) and I've decided to do up some cakes as well as a serious 1st attempt at bulk. I was reading up on additives amoung other things, and figure the best way to gain some understanding on what may or may not work is to become familiar with some of the additives that do. From what I've read in more then a few posts in the archives, your supercake formula produces some outstanding results, so I'm using that as a blueprint to start off with. This is what I've managed to find. (Blooms brand) Kelp granules. http://www.thexton.com.au/product/Bl...__Powder__200g (Lotus Brand) Shredded coconut. An australian all organic brand flax (AKA Linseeds (not many ppl know them as flax here). And the flax like the rice i buy is biorganic and packed by the health food store i use. Great source of info them people. Now, do you use flax whole or are there any benefits to be had by grinding (some or all) of them into a flour? Also, a question on the Bee Pollen. i dont know if it's similarly priced in the U.S, but here it was near on $30 for a fairly small Jar. Is it really that effective an additive? or is it just a lot more modestly priced in the U.S? I plan on trying my hand at some agar work, but the store had sold out. I grabbed some pectin for now, but wont start until I have some agar also. (maybe do a side by side for my own learning). I'm thinking of going a PDA for now as I've read pectin contams far more easily then agar and dont want all my eggs in the one basket (especially a contam prone one). I also got an assortment of vessels. My first shot at cakes was a little bit of a disaster. I'm hoping with the benefit of heinseight from the last batch i can see some better results. The KFC tubs i think I've mentioned in past. I noticed they use a PP6, and they're also 250 ml (half pint) so i figured i'd give them a shot. The cute little KFC managerette was happy to help, and took a couple of coins for 10 of them). I also grabbed some Glad tubs, for cakes and casings. And found these bags that i thought might be handy. Could someone who has some experience with bags (with polyfil ports) give me an opinion on this idea. Do you think one port of this size might work? Or would a larger wad of polyfil be advisable? I like the labels on these bags. If nothing else they're great for clean storage. (i luv the slide too). The slide feels pretty damn sturdy and bites down tight on the polyfil. I'm fairly confident it's a tight enough seal, I'm just unsure if one port like this will offer enough FAE for this amount of sub. Looking at this image now though, i'd think a larger wad would be wiser. I'm using my Nylex tubs for myco purposes now that the canna is going on the back burner, so I might bang up a monotub. (didn't see it at the time lamma suggested it ) And the last idea I'm batting around is fruiting bulk sub right through brown paperbags. I realised contams would be a far greater concern with paperbags, so I'll be incubating them in one of the nylex tubs also to offer some added protection. I've been reading as much as i could find on overlay lately as i found it to be a major problem with my high coir content casing. The pillow case tek always interested me, bags interested me, so a paperbag just seemed like a happy medium. I'm wondering if higher risk of contams would outweight the reduction (if any) in overlay, i really dont know. (special thanks to Lamma again for all the help/advice) I love these tubs. 100% opague and very hardwaring. I still have a few bits and pieces to chase up. I wont start the cakes until I have decent corn meal at least. Anyway, thanks for sharing the recipe. I would have thought your personal recipe would be closely a guarded secret. It really does get me wondering how many different food sources you would have tried to come to such a specific recipe. I'm really looking forward to seeing the results. Much appreciated. P.S For anyone with an interest in the wager/debate, that casing has not contamed, I've patched it once today and should see some fruit real soon. (damn temps are still 6-10 degrees lower then ideal, and being a bitch to stabilise still). Take care. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth.doubt those who find it. Last edited by fingers : 12-18-06 at 10:12. Reason: wanted to thank lamma again.