wow, a lot of back and forth on this one.
as far as the spiritual side of "aya"(or what ever you want to call what i was talking about, i have a ryobi circular saw, i still call it a skill saw) i don't have a spiritual side, i don't believe in anything even remotely spiritual. that being said i've experienced a spiritual like feeling on shrooms, but i believe it to be a chemical reaction in my brain, much like love,anger etc are chemical reactions. i've felt a female presence with salvia, but i don't believe it's real. no more real that the wall melting before my eyes.
ya, i know it sounds more complicated than it needs to be, but i'm thinking it's worth it if it helps reduce nausea(again, i don't believe it's trying to teach me anything or making me puke because i'm not pure, bad chinese food isn't medicine, but it makes me puke)
for people who believe these things, more power to you. for you, the experience may be all the things you say and more. i certainly don't want to take away from anyone's experience regardless of what i think. but i know what i believe and don't believe, so i don't take those things into consideration when planning.
yes, i know it's not true aya, yes i know people think there is only one justifiable reason to take it(btw, who has the right say that? some say the same about shrooms...hell many shamans would say the same about tobacco) but that doesn't mean if your reason isn't for medicine that you are just a dumb kid looking to get "fucked up maaaaan". you can hike a mountain for spiritual reasons, you can do it for the exercise , or you can do it cuz a buddy bet you that you couldn't make it to the top. what matters is what did you get from the experience. that only i can know and only after it happens.
what i'm really looking for is opinions on the method itself as far as preparation, likelihood of success(both in reducing the chance of puking and having a viable dose), things that could be added or taken out. if you've done something similar, how did it go? etc.
thanks
