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Originally Posted by finite_synapses View Post
I feel like the US government is undermining the prosperity of the USA in the guise of help, but I honestly don't understand why this shit is happening. If they're just doing this all as a get-rich-quick scheme in the guise of help, wouldn't more people be able to see it? I mean, are we all blind, or does no one give a shit, or what?

I'm wondering, we all know that fossil fuel reserves are depleting, right? So why are people so vehemently against renewable resources? Because they cost a shitton? Because everyone should wait until the fossil fuels we have start to REALLY dry up? I mean, if something isn't done, there WILL be a point where humanity has to decide, as a whole, whether it wants to live off the grid...

here's my mandate
Mankind needs to invest in any form of renewable energy research and or propagation before we run out of the reserves we have. This is apparent. Oil and coal reserves are both rapidly declining. It does not matter when they run out, be it 20 years or 50 years or 100 years. What does matter is that humanity must have the measures put in place to replace the lost output from non-renewable resources with renewable resources. The decline of fossil fuels will be gradual, yet humanity is constantly in demand of increasingly more fossil fuels, so as we keep tapping into these reserves whilst discovering more, we are just feeding a constantly growing, giant, insatiable beast with shit we can't get back. In order for society as we know it to function, we need to make sure that we will consistently have electricity. If we invest in actually developing and discovering energy sources, we will not have to worry about what's on the horizon. Simply developing and discovering new fossil fuel prospects is not a logical step. Although it is big source of revenue, that revenue will dry up. Without revenue, no one's doing shit.

Oil companies are investing in alternative resources because they're not completely fucking stupid. When a company is dealing with limited resources, they are bound to either dissolve or diversify. To spend part of the company's revenue on propagation and research of renewable resources seems to be a sound investment. If a piece of machinery cost $1000 to make and created $2000 worth of shit out of thin air, would it not be a wise investment? If you had proprietary rights to the next big electrical innovation, would it not be a wise investment? Besides, maybe they think they will get a better PR...

Economic collapse would be imminent without proper procedures in place for society to continue along without interruptions. I guarantee i will see one of three things come from the energy industry in my lifetime:
1. Societal collapse
2. Massive technological innovations
3. Green energy
Green energy seems the most probable. Hell, maybe fusion will truly be developed, but it's still got some nasty side-products just as nuclear does. People like to be told they're not fucking their home up, so green energy goes down more smoothly with everyone. If we continue along the current path indefinitely, non-renewable costs will be much much higher than that of renewables by demand alone.

Why not start investing now, unless you believe it to be a huge waste of money? Technology is ever-advancing, and in the renewables department, they need all the help they can get. However, helping them make breakthroughs (and get rich on the side) is what may very well keep us afloat as a whole. I honestly don't think the level of humanity's societal advancement is great enough to keep us ahead of the game at these levels. I mean, if everything goes along as it is, and we reach the tipping point in terms of energy consumption, what's going to happen? Someone's going to have to pay, that's what. Whether it's the poor or the Middle East or everyone, someone will be incapable of continuing life as they had been doing. Would it not be in the vested interests of the people as a whole to continue advancing the human species? I guess you could be like, "fuck 'em" but what if you're one of them? It's the WHAT IF scenario, dammit.

Just as rising CO2 levels is a what if scenario... i honestly don't know what to think about CO2 emissions... I mean, it's mostly all been in the atmosphere before, right? Billowing out of volcanoes and settling back into the ground... no one knows how much that shit affects the global warming/cooling cycle, only that more of it has been around at certain times.

I honestly think the world is going to end in some insanely spectacular event, not some vast societal collapse(although that would be quite insane in and of itself).
i do hope we move to green energy and that it is not exploited like oil.

i doubt it. and hopefully we can move to it without bankrupting the country any further. i don't think china wants to foot the bill for us to rebuild our energy structure.

green energy combined with the speed of the internet could be a very powerful tool. seems like all the jobs are gonna be headed in that direction in the near future.
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