Reliable source for powdered San Pedro?

Dude13 · 08-21-06, 21:29

Hi, swim was interested in doing an ethanol extraction of San Pedro. However, swim would prefer to buy pre-powdered cactus as swim's resources are limited. Swim has checked several ethnobotanicle suppliers and has found lots of San Pedro, but not in powdered form. Swim is sure that finding a supplier would not take much more looking, but is more concerned with reliability/quality especially considering the variability of San Pedro's potency. It would be a shame if swim were to go through the trouble/money and not trip...

So, would anyone be able to recommend a quality source for powdered San Pedro?

Thanks!

ps

What is the proper pronunciation of Trichocereus?

rocketman · 08-21-06, 21:37

i dont know if max at the sporlab has any more or not. check him out first....... as far as powdered, i know of only one vendor that ships powdered and i can not recommend them. you will mostly find dried cactus chips when you check around. the chips can be powdered with a coffee grinder. most of the available cactus skin is trichocereus peruvianus not san pedro. I pronounce it trickosaireeus.....dunno if thats right or not.

Hippie3 · 08-21-06, 22:24

not a sponsor here any more
but icarosDNA, on yage.net,
used to hook me up real good

Jaeger · 08-22-06, 12:21

Incaro is a great source too,
He is a bit more expensive, but is better to the local culture. Also, his product is regarded as higher quality by some. I have heard his service is A+ too

Dude13 · 08-23-06, 01:01

Thanks a lot guys.

Swim has been wanting to do this for awhile and has finally decided to get around to doing it. If powder isn't available, dried chips would be fine.

The main concern of swim is going through all the trouble and not getting any results due to the cactus not being potent enough. This is especially a concern as swim's friend might be paying for his own cactus and swim wouldn't want to waste their money/disappoint them. To avoid such a problem, what weight (dry) would be recommended (a potentially strong dose would be much prefered to a fairly inactive dose)? Also, would Peruvian be preferably to San Pedro?

Swim has read other read other recommendations for dried weight, but the more ideas the better.

There seems to be a lot of conflicting data on which is more potent Peruvian or San Pedro. It seems that San Pedro has a higher potential for potency, but which is more potent on average? Of course the average potency wouldn't matter with a reliable (for potency) vendor.

Thanks again

rocketman · 08-23-06, 01:37

from peru to my doorstep in 7 daze

Hippie3 · 08-23-06, 07:46

i'd say at least 40 dry grams of reasonable strong pedro should do the trrick [per dose]

rocketman · 08-23-06, 11:32

40g of icarosdna is a very good dose for the first time. he sells peruvian torch and it is said to be some of the most potent available from the vendors. it is pricey due to the big shipping charge from peru, you have to go to his site and email julio for prices. get the green flesh, not the white.

Dude13 · 08-23-06, 19:26

How would I get a hold of Icarosdna or whatever? Couldn't really find anything on yage.net...

Jaeger · 08-23-06, 19:49

Get the chips if possible, they are about 1.2% goodies, good quality stuff.

Dude13 · 08-23-06, 21:05

Oh? Was there a difference between chips and the powder from that site? From what I read it sounded like the powder was the from the chips that they offer. It was just that they only used to have the powder available and people wanted the chips...

Hippie3 · 08-23-06, 21:11

cheap is only good if you end up getting what you seek.
i normally don't allow hotlinks to non-sponsors
but since julio always treated me righteously
here's the order page
http://icarosdna.yage.net/page/ordening.htm

tregar · 08-23-06, 21:15

Same here, I can vouch for Icaro.

Oat Monsoon · 09-18-06, 11:58

Sorry to to bring back an old thread, but I have been looking around at a website as of late and am curious to know whether or not it is a legitimate site to purchase ethnobotanicals from.

I am unsure whether or not I can post the site though, as I have just recently came across this board. It would be appreciated if someone let me know whether or not I can post the site. Thanks a lot.

Elf Salvation · 09-19-06, 20:29

Legit

rocketman · 09-19-06, 20:39

i dont think icaro sells powdered, and he use to not sell any thing less than half a kilo. its a good investment if you like the incense. if you are just trying it for the first time you may want to go cheaper and smaller amounts like on ebay, and you can find powdered. if you dont like it you wont have a hundred bucks spent on it, although id buy whatever of icaros you didnt want

cap · 09-19-06, 20:46

Oat_Monsoon - that's a GREAT avatar!!!

...women

Oat Monsoon · 09-19-06, 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap

Oat_Monsoon - that's a GREAT avatar!!!

...women

Thank you!
The website I was referring to is www. psychoactiveherbs .com. Has anyone heard of or about this site? Anyone ever bought anything from them? They are located in Indonesia and the site is ran by a fellow by the name of Danny; he seems like a nice guy, as I have corresponded with him via email several times.
They sell whole chunks of cacti sliced into sections by weight and the option is there for them to powder it if you wish.
They have such a wide variety of plants and there are so many I want to try. I am very new to utilizing the chemical alkaloids contained within the various entheogenic plants (just mushrooms so far) and am eager to try some (especially those containing DMT, LSA and Mescaline).
If anyone can give some feedback (positivie or negative or indifferent) in regards to that site, it would be most graciously appreciated.
Thanks so much for your time, take care.

rocketman · 09-19-06, 23:03

ive seen them before and they are very expensive. never ordered from them.

Oat Monsoon · 09-20-06, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman

ive seen them before and they are very expensive. never ordered from them.

Their prices are very expensive? Can you recommend some other site(s) with reasonable prices on quality plant materials?

kija. · 09-20-06, 12:28

Icaros prices are for what on that link???not powder eh??

synth · 09-20-06, 16:37

non-sponsor endorsement deleted

Oat Monsoon · 09-20-06, 17:25

This website does have great prices (especially compared to the other site I was asking about). Have you had positive experiences ordering from them? Have you purchased any products other than their Peruvian Torch?

Soliver · 09-20-06, 17:32

Psychoactiveherbs is not a consistent source - I ordered a pillowcase (well, damn near) of kratom from them that was almost useless. When I asked Danny about it, he said "natural botanicals vary, etc., etc."

He did give me a break on my next order, but what's the use of having more of a bad thing?

Besides, they don't take credit cards now (wonder why their CC vendor dumped them? Me too), so it's only Western Union - good luck getting your $ back if you get a bunk order...

soliver

rocketman · 09-20-06, 18:49

i havent ordred from him but i would. the owner seems like a genuine fellow. im sure hed appreciate the business.......why dont you email him, telling him about topia and see if he is interested in becoming a sponsor here. we no longer have sponsors with torch cactus in the u.s.

fungalsporesolution · 09-20-06, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman

i havent ordred from him but i would. the owner seems like a genuine fellow. im sure hed appreciate the business.......why dont you email him, telling him about topia and see if he is interested in becoming a sponsor here. we no longer have sponsors with torch cactus in the u.s.

knowing rabbit

id say he would love to be a sponsor here

i can even shoot him an email

or pm him on yahoo if you'd like

fungalsporesolution · 09-20-06, 20:14

hmmmmm, hipp

apparently

he joined here to share a grow log of a friends one time

and was told that he since he had a store he had to become a sponsor, and that if he didnt youwould ban him

which he was

is that true?

i dont beleive he wants to have anything to do with mycotopia now though

sorry, i tried

Hippie3 · 09-21-06, 05:23

he is lying to you,
he was not banned for posting grow logs nor because he had a store-
he was trying to sell here WITHOUT becoming a sponsor,
he was noticed doing so and urged to sign up,
but did not.

he got caught again and was warned to stop and sign up
and again refused.

he was then banned for spamming yet again.

so in my book he was not doing honest business,
he was just trying to use the forums here for free
to promote his business at no cost
which i cannot allow as bouncing bear botanicals
sells the same items and is a paying sponsor,
it would not be fair to charge them
and let this guy spam for free.

even now he is still trying the same thing
and all references to him and his business
will be ruthlessly censored here
unless and until he coughs up the dough
like all the others do.

no free rides.
even i have to pay to advertise here.

rocketman · 09-21-06, 05:51

sorry, had no idea......now i know

Hippie3 · 09-21-06, 05:58

no problem.
like i said
the man is a liar.
he's lying now about how he got banned
just as he lied to me back then about his intentions.
i mean, look, he claimed he was just an amatuer hobbiest
yet now he's got a slick website selling shit full time.
i ain't as dumb as i look.
i know a player when i see one.
if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, ya know ?
and our fee is just $40 a month
that gives unlimited impressions a month
and access to the market forum,
and our readers average well over 1 million hits a month
so plenty of exposure .
he's just too cheap and thinks he can slick his way past the policy for a free ride
but it ain't happening.

fungalsporesolution · 09-21-06, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

he is lying to you,
he was not banned for posting grow logs nor because he had a store-
he was trying to sell here WITHOUT becoming a sponsor,
he was noticed doing so and urged to sign up,
but did not.

he got caught again and was warned to stop and sign up
and again refused.

he was then banned for spamming yet again.

so in my book he was not doing honest business,
he was just trying to use the forums here for free
to promote his business at no cost
which i cannot allow as bouncing bear botanicals
sells the same items and is a paying sponsor,
it would not be fair to charge them
and let this guy spam for free.

even now he is still trying the same thing
and all references to him and his business
will be ruthlessly censored here
unless and until he coughs up the dough
like all the others do.

no free rides.
even i have to pay to advertise here.

makes sense

oh well

i understand though

wish i could get him to

dawnstealer01 · 11-25-07, 08:28

hello there

ive been trying to dig up some information about purchasing dried t. pachanoi powder/incense for a while and havent had any conclusive luck. So far I have looked at the aforementioned icarosdna site and one other that sells already powdered stuff in bulk - compras peru.... has anyone order from either of these sites in last year, and if so, how did it go? Potency? Cost? Have any better/cheaper vendors popped up since this thread went quiet? Before I throw down a bunch of $$, kinda want to feel good about my decision.

egbert · 05-24-08, 10:59

would also like to know the difference between icaros and compas. I emailed Icaros for their price list for the powdered and the difference is quite substantial when compared to compas' prices. Has any one ordered from compas? I'm probably going to go with Icaros because I've heard nothing but good things about them, but was just wondering if Compas might also be good since they are cheaper.

AndyLandy420 · 06-10-08, 14:17

can anyone provide any input on potency/freshness of other products that icarosDNA sells? paticularly the mimosa? caapi? coca? chacruna? thanks

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08-21-06, 21:29	#1 (permalink)
Dude13 Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Reliable source for powdered San Pedro? Hi, swim was interested in doing an ethanol extraction of San Pedro. However, swim would prefer to buy pre-powdered cactus as swim's resources are limited. Swim has checked several ethnobotanicle suppliers and has found lots of San Pedro, but not in powdered form. Swim is sure that finding a supplier would not take much more looking, but is more concerned with reliability/quality especially considering the variability of San Pedro's potency. It would be a shame if swim were to go through the trouble/money and not trip... So, would anyone be able to recommend a quality source for powdered San Pedro? Thanks! ps What is the proper pronunciation of Trichocereus?

08-21-06, 21:37	#2 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	i dont know if max at the sporlab has any more or not. check him out first....... as far as powdered, i know of only one vendor that ships powdered and i can not recommend them. you will mostly find dried cactus chips when you check around. the chips can be powdered with a coffee grinder. most of the available cactus skin is trichocereus peruvianus not san pedro. I pronounce it trickosaireeus.....dunno if thats right or not. __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

08-21-06, 22:24	#3 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 34,824	not a sponsor here any more but icarosDNA, on yage.net, used to hook me up real good __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

08-23-06, 01:37	#6 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	from peru to my doorstep in 7 daze __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

08-22-06, 12:21	#4 (permalink)
Jaeger Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 179	Incaro is a great source too, He is a bit more expensive, but is better to the local culture. Also, his product is regarded as higher quality by some. I have heard his service is A+ too

08-23-06, 01:01	#5 (permalink)
Dude13 Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Thanks a lot guys. Swim has been wanting to do this for awhile and has finally decided to get around to doing it. If powder isn't available, dried chips would be fine. The main concern of swim is going through all the trouble and not getting any results due to the cactus not being potent enough. This is especially a concern as swim's friend might be paying for his own cactus and swim wouldn't want to waste their money/disappoint them. To avoid such a problem, what weight (dry) would be recommended (a potentially strong dose would be much prefered to a fairly inactive dose)? Also, would Peruvian be preferably to San Pedro? Swim has read other read other recommendations for dried weight, but the more ideas the better. There seems to be a lot of conflicting data on which is more potent Peruvian or San Pedro. It seems that San Pedro has a higher potential for potency, but which is more potent on average? Of course the average potency wouldn't matter with a reliable (for potency) vendor. Thanks again

08-23-06, 07:46	#7 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 34,824	i'd say at least 40 dry grams of reasonable strong pedro should do the trrick [per dose] __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

08-23-06, 11:32	#8 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	40g of icarosdna is a very good dose for the first time. he sells peruvian torch and it is said to be some of the most potent available from the vendors. it is pricey due to the big shipping charge from peru, you have to go to his site and email julio for prices. get the green flesh, not the white. __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

08-23-06, 19:26	#9 (permalink)
Dude13 Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	How would I get a hold of Icarosdna or whatever? Couldn't really find anything on yage.net... Last edited by Hippie3 : 09-21-06 at 06:02.

08-23-06, 19:49	#10 (permalink)
Jaeger Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 179	Get the chips if possible, they are about 1.2% goodies, good quality stuff.

08-23-06, 21:05	#11 (permalink)
Dude13 Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24	Oh? Was there a difference between chips and the powder from that site? From what I read it sounded like the powder was the from the chips that they offer. It was just that they only used to have the powder available and people wanted the chips...

08-23-06, 21:11	#12 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 34,824	cheap is only good if you end up getting what you seek. i normally don't allow hotlinks to non-sponsors but since julio always treated me righteously here's the order page http://icarosdna.yage.net/page/ordening.htm __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

08-23-06, 21:15	#13 (permalink)
tregar Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 479	Same here, I can vouch for Icaro.

09-18-06, 11:58	#14 (permalink)
Oat Monsoon Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6	Sorry to to bring back an old thread, but I have been looking around at a website as of late and am curious to know whether or not it is a legitimate site to purchase ethnobotanicals from. I am unsure whether or not I can post the site though, as I have just recently came across this board. It would be appreciated if someone let me know whether or not I can post the site. Thanks a lot. __________________ So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet

09-19-06, 20:29	#15 (permalink)
Elf Salvation Pann Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 579	Legit

09-19-06, 20:39	#16 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	i dont think icaro sells powdered, and he use to not sell any thing less than half a kilo. its a good investment if you like the incense. if you are just trying it for the first time you may want to go cheaper and smaller amounts like on ebay, and you can find powdered. if you dont like it you wont have a hundred bucks spent on it, although id buy whatever of icaros you didnt want __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

09-19-06, 20:46	#17 (permalink)
cap sittin here in limbo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,795	Oat_Monsoon - that's a GREAT avatar!!! ...women

09-19-06, 23:03	#19 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	ive seen them before and they are very expensive. never ordered from them. __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

09-20-06, 12:28	#21 (permalink)
kija. Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 39	Icaros prices are for what on that link???not powder eh??

09-20-06, 16:37	#22 (permalink)
synth Mycotopiate Join Date: Aug 1972 Posts: 757	non-sponsor endorsement deleted Last edited by Hippie3 : 09-21-06 at 05:18.

09-20-06, 17:25	#23 (permalink)
Oat Monsoon Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 6	This website does have great prices (especially compared to the other site I was asking about). Have you had positive experiences ordering from them? Have you purchased any products other than their Peruvian Torch? __________________ So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet Last edited by Hippie3 : 09-21-06 at 05:19.

09-20-06, 17:32	#24 (permalink)
Soliver Deranged Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 631	Psychoactiveherbs is not a consistent source - I ordered a pillowcase (well, damn near) of kratom from them that was almost useless. When I asked Danny about it, he said "natural botanicals vary, etc., etc." He did give me a break on my next order, but what's the use of having more of a bad thing? Besides, they don't take credit cards now (wonder why their CC vendor dumped them? Me too), so it's only Western Union - good luck getting your $ back if you get a bunk order... soliver

09-20-06, 18:49	#25 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	i havent ordred from him but i would. the owner seems like a genuine fellow. im sure hed appreciate the business.......why dont you email him, telling him about topia and see if he is interested in becoming a sponsor here. we no longer have sponsors with torch cactus in the u.s. __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder Last edited by Hippie3 : 09-21-06 at 05:27.

09-20-06, 20:14	#27 (permalink)
fungalsporesolution Former Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 362	hmmmmm, hipp apparently he joined here to share a grow log of a friends one time and was told that he since he had a store he had to become a sponsor, and that if he didnt youwould ban him which he was is that true? i dont beleive he wants to have anything to do with mycotopia now though sorry, i tried

09-21-06, 05:23	#28 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 34,824	he is lying to you, he was not banned for posting grow logs nor because he had a store- he was trying to sell here WITHOUT becoming a sponsor, he was noticed doing so and urged to sign up, but did not. he got caught again and was warned to stop and sign up and again refused. he was then banned for spamming yet again. so in my book he was not doing honest business, he was just trying to use the forums here for free to promote his business at no cost which i cannot allow as bouncing bear botanicals sells the same items and is a paying sponsor, it would not be fair to charge them and let this guy spam for free. even now he is still trying the same thing and all references to him and his business will be ruthlessly censored here unless and until he coughs up the dough like all the others do. no free rides. even i have to pay to advertise here. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

09-21-06, 05:51	#29 (permalink)
rocketman Mission Control Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,759	sorry, had no idea......now i know __________________ you can spend yourtime alone redigesting past regrets or you can terms and realize youre the only one who cannot forgive yourself for them.~E.Vedder

09-21-06, 05:58	#30 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 34,824	no problem. like i said the man is a liar. he's lying now about how he got banned just as he lied to me back then about his intentions. i mean, look, he claimed he was just an amatuer hobbiest yet now he's got a slick website selling shit full time. i ain't as dumb as i look. i know a player when i see one. if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, ya know ? and our fee is just $40 a month that gives unlimited impressions a month and access to the market forum, and our readers average well over 1 million hits a month so plenty of exposure . he's just too cheap and thinks he can slick his way past the policy for a free ride but it ain't happening. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

11-25-07, 08:28	#32 (permalink)
dawnstealer01 Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7	hello there ive been trying to dig up some information about purchasing dried t. pachanoi powder/incense for a while and havent had any conclusive luck. So far I have looked at the aforementioned icarosdna site and one other that sells already powdered stuff in bulk - compras peru.... has anyone order from either of these sites in last year, and if so, how did it go? Potency? Cost? Have any better/cheaper vendors popped up since this thread went quiet? Before I throw down a bunch of $$, kinda want to feel good about my decision.

05-24-08, 10:59	#33 (permalink)
egbert Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 10	icaros vs. compas would also like to know the difference between icaros and compas. I emailed Icaros for their price list for the powdered and the difference is quite substantial when compared to compas' prices. Has any one ordered from compas? I'm probably going to go with Icaros because I've heard nothing but good things about them, but was just wondering if Compas might also be good since they are cheaper. __________________ "It is not possible to eat me without insisting that I sing praises of my devourer?"

06-10-08, 14:17	#34 (permalink)
AndyLandy420 Mycotopiate Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 402	can anyone provide any input on potency/freshness of other products that icarosDNA sells? paticularly the mimosa? caapi? coca? chacruna? thanks __________________ only those who risk going too far can find out how far one can go...