5-HTP (Griffonia simplicifolia)

Soliver1 · 11-18-06, 17:42

Curious if anyone here has tried this stuff - it's a legal OTC supplement available at most nature stores, GNC, etc.

I've heard that it can reduce the "hangover" one experiences after taking Kratom; I'm wondering if it'll reduce my urge to daisy chain kratom doses for weeks / months / years on end...

The Kratom got me away from opiates quite well. So well, in fact, that if I don't take it about 4-5 times a day, I experience unpleasant withdrawl symptoms. Naturally, I'm not against taking a foreign substance for kicks

but no one really knows what the long-term effects of Kratom intake / addiction are, and I'm not sure I want my name at the top of the case-study.

Maybe I can swap my kratom addiction for a 5-htp addiction?

I feel like an entheogenic ping-pong ball, but I don't remember what it's like to be off the table completely (actually, I do remember - it was miserable). Clean living is overrated, but it's better than the threat of "assuming room temperature" prematurely, I suppose.

Kratom also kicks in wicked desire to smoke ciggys for me, so perhaps if I could trim back, I could quit smoking again (I had quit for 3 years, but I was also addicted to painkillers then too).

But I digress... curious to see if anyone had tried the 5-htp (it's similar to tryptophan, a precursor to seratonin, etc).

soliver

cap · 11-18-06, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliver

Maybe I can swap my kratom addiction for a 5-htp addiction?

arezap · 11-18-06, 18:46

I've had friends use 5-HTP in conjunction with other vitamins and supplements as a coctail used for harm reduction that mdma can do to your body during extacy trips.They say it helps them not get the "E" hangover the next day and something about the reduction of the oxidation of seratonin in the brain that can be harmfull. Also supposed to help protect them against symptoms experienced by chronic users of extacy. But as for your purpose of use I am not sure.

Soliver1 · 11-20-06, 16:13

Last night was my 2nd dose, starting out with 50mg before bed. Night 1 was AOK, last night I had awesome crazy flying dreams, then woke up at 1:30am feeling like I was going to jump out of my skin - most unpleasant. Not sure if it's because of the 5htp, or if it's my reduction in Kratom dosage, or perhaps leftover weirdness from Saturday (took 2 darvon that day to get over a wicked hangover)...

Who knows. Either I took something I shouldn't have, or I didn't take something I should have, or I took too much of something a few days before and paid for it later...

I'll get my shit straight one of these days

I've heard of using it for Ex hangover... I need to do some dosage research, I suppose

soliver

spacecake · 11-20-06, 16:36

''actually, I do remember - it was miserable). Clean living is overrated''

Hahahaha

I'm off meth now for 4 month.. but I'm getting bored....lol

The Rogue Angel · 11-20-06, 19:20

I take it every day with st john's wart to help Balance out my mood, but I have noticed a lot more vivid dreams and I have started trying it in combinations with mushrooms to see if my trips become more visual. The first time I tried it I had a really positive breakthrough on 100 mg of 5 htp and 5 grams of shrooms.

craigwhite21 · 11-21-06, 07:55

5-Htp increases Serotonin, it is found in Turkey and Cheese and other foodstuffs. Unlike deppression tablets which utilize the serotonin that is already in the body, 5-htp is directly turned into serotonin thereby increasing the stock of serotonin inside the bodie. It hasn't been tested properly in the lab so it hasn't been realeased to doctor's etc. However I think it could be cure for Schizophrenia, Paranoia and various other psychritric diseases as it resupplys the brain with one of its main messangers. Maybe thats why they haven't let it out because the drug companies don't all want to cure they wan't to releive so they can make more money. What do you all think??

hippyfreak · 11-21-06, 23:07

I used to use to combat the dreaded "hate the world" feeling from cid and shrooms that happens in the following week. I found that taking it before dosing then once a day the following week really helped my mood.

cap · 11-22-06, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippyfreak

I used to use to combat the dreaded "hate the world" feeling from cid and shrooms that happens in the following week. I found that taking it before dosing then once a day the following week really helped my mood.

hmm i kinda love the world after ingesting that stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliver

Who knows. Either I took something I shouldn't have, or I didn't take something I should have, or I took too much of something a few days before and paid for it later...

my life story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliver

I'll get my shit straight one of these days

/nods

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soliver

I've heard of using it for Ex hangover... I need to do some dosage research, I suppose

Hippie3 · 11-22-06, 21:33

Quote:

no one really knows what the long-term effects of Kratom intake / addiction are, and I'm not sure I want my name at the top of the case-study.

Soliver's Syndrome-
kinda has a nice ring to it eh.

Soliver1 · 11-25-06, 09:59

Better if we could "latin" it up some, like

Solivericatum

or

Solivericosis

or

Solivericism

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11-18-06, 17:42	#1 (permalink)
Soliver1 Deranged Trading allowed Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 639	5-HTP (Griffonia simplicifolia) Curious if anyone here has tried this stuff - it's a legal OTC supplement available at most nature stores, GNC, etc. I've heard that it can reduce the "hangover" one experiences after taking Kratom; I'm wondering if it'll reduce my urge to daisy chain kratom doses for weeks / months / years on end... The Kratom got me away from opiates quite well. So well, in fact, that if I don't take it about 4-5 times a day, I experience unpleasant withdrawl symptoms. Naturally, I'm not against taking a foreign substance for kicks but no one really knows what the long-term effects of Kratom intake / addiction are, and I'm not sure I want my name at the top of the case-study. Maybe I can swap my kratom addiction for a 5-htp addiction? I feel like an entheogenic ping-pong ball, but I don't remember what it's like to be off the table completely (actually, I do remember - it was miserable). Clean living is overrated, but it's better than the threat of "assuming room temperature" prematurely, I suppose. Kratom also kicks in wicked desire to smoke ciggys for me, so perhaps if I could trim back, I could quit smoking again (I had quit for 3 years, but I was also addicted to painkillers then too). But I digress... curious to see if anyone had tried the 5-htp (it's similar to tryptophan, a precursor to seratonin, etc). soliver

11-18-06, 18:46	#3 (permalink)
arezap Underfunded evil genius Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 605	I've had friends use 5-HTP in conjunction with other vitamins and supplements as a coctail used for harm reduction that mdma can do to your body during extacy trips.They say it helps them not get the "E" hangover the next day and something about the reduction of the oxidation of seratonin in the brain that can be harmfull. Also supposed to help protect them against symptoms experienced by chronic users of extacy. But as for your purpose of use I am not sure. __________________ Don't make me go get the giant, mutant, flying, atomic, albino orangatangs after you for interrupting my experiments!

11-20-06, 16:36	#5 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,722	''actually, I do remember - it was miserable). Clean living is overrated'' Hahahaha I'm off meth now for 4 month.. but I'm getting bored....lol __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

11-20-06, 19:20	#6 (permalink)
The Rogue Angel Lost Immortal Newbie - no market privs Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 93	I take it every day with st john's wart to help Balance out my mood, but I have noticed a lot more vivid dreams and I have started trying it in combinations with mushrooms to see if my trips become more visual. The first time I tried it I had a really positive breakthrough on 100 mg of 5 htp and 5 grams of shrooms. __________________ If purity is evil and evil is in fact truth then what does this speak of love and friendship

11-20-06, 16:13	#4 (permalink)
Soliver1 Deranged Trading allowed Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 639	Last night was my 2nd dose, starting out with 50mg before bed. Night 1 was AOK, last night I had awesome crazy flying dreams, then woke up at 1:30am feeling like I was going to jump out of my skin - most unpleasant. Not sure if it's because of the 5htp, or if it's my reduction in Kratom dosage, or perhaps leftover weirdness from Saturday (took 2 darvon that day to get over a wicked hangover)... Who knows. Either I took something I shouldn't have, or I didn't take something I should have, or I took too much of something a few days before and paid for it later... I'll get my shit straight one of these days I've heard of using it for Ex hangover... I need to do some dosage research, I suppose soliver

11-21-06, 07:55	#7 (permalink)
craigwhite21 Mycophage Trading allowed Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 120	5-Htp increases Serotonin, it is found in Turkey and Cheese and other foodstuffs. Unlike deppression tablets which utilize the serotonin that is already in the body, 5-htp is directly turned into serotonin thereby increasing the stock of serotonin inside the bodie. It hasn't been tested properly in the lab so it hasn't been realeased to doctor's etc. However I think it could be cure for Schizophrenia, Paranoia and various other psychritric diseases as it resupplys the brain with one of its main messangers. Maybe thats why they haven't let it out because the drug companies don't all want to cure they wan't to releive so they can make more money. What do you all think??

11-21-06, 23:07	#8 (permalink)
hippyfreak Mycophiliac Newbie - no market privs Join Date: Jun 1972 Posts: 41	I used to use to combat the dreaded "hate the world" feeling from cid and shrooms that happens in the following week. I found that taking it before dosing then once a day the following week really helped my mood. __________________ Every 20 years the people need to have a revolution and the constitution should be rewritten, otherwise freedom will be lost. TJ

11-25-06, 09:59	#11 (permalink)
Soliver1 Deranged Trading allowed Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 639	Better if we could "latin" it up some, like Solivericatum or Solivericosis or Solivericism

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