Smokeable mix from down under

[condo_pygmy]

A shamanic smoke has been developed in Australia by mixing plant material of shredded Caapi vine or dried Caapi leaves onto which a dmt alcohol solution is poured and allowed to evaporate. It's quite possibly the way to go in terms of smoking dmt, and can even be rolled into joints without effecting the ability to 'break through' !!
The experience is a little more earthier & lasts a while Longer, It's a lot more user friendly than just smoking crystal...
http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/4272b52c...d-f64ee2e26689

swim's foaf will try this using a PV or mhrb grain alcohol extraction
dropped & dried on Caapi or Rue extract, then rolled into a joint of kind bud...

[Hippie3]

not much info in that link,
lots of ads though.

i'd love to see much more info on this though,
so plz lead the way, friend.


btw
cf. http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthre...ghlight=changa (Anyone Ever Hear oF "Changa"?)

[condo_pygmy]

Yeah Mars brought this subject up awhile back, however instead of Caapi leaf & Acacia resin mix, it would be interesting to try a MHRB alcohol extraction infused with a caapi or rue extract.
swim's foaf has the caapi & Rue extracts,
all is needed now is some bark & bite !!

[Hippie3]

agreed.
frankly sounds pretty exciting to me,
i'm one of those weirdos that prefers
his drugs a bit more natural than those made in a lab.
a simple alcohol infusion soaked into plant material
sounds more up my alley.

[rocketman]

I am all ears!

[Hippie3]

Originally Posted by rocketman

I am all ears...

[condo_pygmy]

Bark is En route, swim's protege' will post results soon...

[rocketman]

Where does one get acacia bark?

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by rocketman

Where does one get acacia bark?

australia.

none of the vendors sell it

which is a shame because its supposed to be a really good source.

Condo:

from what I have read about changa it is NOT an alcohol extraction deposited on a mix of herbs containg caapi, passionflower or whatever. an alcohol extraction would not produce a potent enough product, and the spice would be in salt form, and because of that not smokeable.

from what I understand, changa is made by taking normal freebase crystal spice (of course acacia derived as opposed to MHRB since its an australian thing) dissolving it in alcohol or a NP solvent and adding the herbal mix and allowing the solvent to evaporate, depositing the spice on the herbal mix. usually it is made to be 30% or 50% DMT by weight.,

[condo_pygmy]

That makes sense TAG, an alcohol extraction alone would be too dispersed...
thanx 4 the heads up

[condo_pygmy]

Prelude to a shamanic mix:
About 10 ml's of Ever Clear (grain alcohol) were dripped into a glass vial, 150mg's of spice was mixed in till disolved, (which was instantly at room temp) a good pinch of harmala extract was then added till disolved & finally kind bud was siffed into the mix to absorb the tacky goo, then a 5 second microwave blast was done to insured infusion, this was then tapped out onto a glass dish to dry...

[mycot]

Bravo Condo. I was wondering whether anyone was going to persue the subject of changa analoges as experimentation in the changa thread seemed to have stalled due to an unavailability of caapi leaf.
With the relatively high proportion of betacarbolines in rue as compared with caapi further experimentation is of course possible and warranted.
Very excited to see what eventuates.

[condo_pygmy]

It's a real experience for experienced trippers to say the least!!
the caapi-rue extract with a high % mhrb spice mix produces <> breakthroughs........
everynow & then to repeek, swam's apprentice would do a 40mg pure spice blast >>> melting 5D Visuals were second to None at this level !!!
{the swims went platnium}

[condo_pygmy]

They say a good 'Changa' mix prepared from a telepathic shaman will clarify any breakthrough making em' user friendly like floattin' on liquid gardens....

[Scroto Baggins]

Originally Posted by condo_pygmy

Prelude to a shamanic mix:
About 10 ml's of Ever Clear (grain alcohol) were dripped into a glass vial, 150mg's of spice was mixed in till disolved, (which was instantly at room temp) a good pinch of harmala extract was then added till disolved & finally kind bud was siffed into the mix to absorb the tacky goo, then a 5 second microwave blast was done to insured infusion, this was then tapped out onto a glass dish to dry...

Was the harmala extract derived from Cappi or Rue? Is there a write-up detailing this sort of procedure?

[condo_pygmy]

The Maoi was tried & tested, foaf had some rue extract awhile back & recently came across some Caapi 50:1 extract. the onset was gradual compared to eye candy visuals from mechanical spice rides....

[archeyogi]

Regarding the making of Changa, is it necessary to create DMT crystals and then do an alcohol evaporation to the P Viridis or can one do a cold extraction and from the mimosa tea and then attach to the Viridis thereby bypassing the chrystal stage?