Loph growing and care

Deft · 03-22-07, 17:11

I obtained 3 2.5cm lophs last xmass but have a few questions that I could not find answers to in the grow guides online.

First, can regular old lophs self polinate? I had one flower allready and it produced a few seeds that I scatered around the plant but none came up.

Second, at what age and general size will my lophs start putting out pups naturaly? Would I have to graft to see a substantial number of pups?

Godflesh · 03-22-07, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Deft

I obtained 3 2.5cm lophs last xmass but have a few questions that I could not find answers to in the grow guides online.

First, can regular old lophs self polinate? I had one flower allready and it produced a few seeds that I scatered around the plant but none came up.

Second, at what age and general size will my lophs start putting out pups naturaly? Would I have to graft to see a substantial number of pups?

I believe, yes, they can self polinate and it generaly takes up to 5-6 years for "real" peyote to produce pups on its own.

Good info...www.divinecactus.com

joey_megabucks · 03-22-07, 20:35

my peyote finally produced a pup after 7 years. they grow really slow. but is sooo cute!

oibchip · 03-22-07, 20:48

Is a "pup" and a "button" the same thing?

Deft · 03-22-07, 20:56

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Originally Posted by joey_megabucks

my peyote finally produced a pup after 7 years. they grow really slow. but is sooo cute!

Have any pics to share? I have not seen much of that yet!

Mine are about 3cm now, might graft one once they get a little larger.

Deft · 03-22-07, 21:22

Makes me wonder, can I just graft it to any old columnar cacti from the nursery? I assume it will be good as long as it grows fast and has that ring of Xylem or floem stuff.. I allmost failed botany lol.

joey_megabucks · 03-22-07, 21:27

yes you can graft it. I recommend grafting to a tricocerus peruvianus or t. pachanoi.
sorry i've got no pics. my little girl is not with me at the moment. i'm not in a great growing area so i left her with a friend in another state.
good luck

Sunstar · 03-22-07, 21:40

A book like this may help. May want to see if you can obtain a copy from an online seller or a used bookstore

Godflesh · 03-23-07, 09:54

Check this out!

spacecake · 03-23-07, 17:05

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Originally Posted by oibchip

Is a "pup" and a "button" the same thing?

When a big Peyote cacti.. starts having new little peyotes cacti growing right out of it's own body,..then you call them pups.

A little peyote,is been called button..it can be a pup or just a Peyote on it's own...

oibchip · 03-25-07, 09:29

Thanks for the clarification Spacecake.

Nunyabiz · 03-20-08, 23:17

Your flowers will eventually put out good seeds.. They can self polinate..

As for pups it can take forever.. Some do it spontaniously(caespitosa).
Most take age to offset unless grafted..

The pics are a few examples.. The one with the pups is a young caespitosa.. The other one looks like williamsii, could be fricii no pups and its very old..

Kadass · 03-21-08, 01:58

only L. williamsii is self-fertile. L. diffusa, koehresii and fricii are not. i find that diffusa, fricii, jourdiana, and to a lesser extent koehressii all pup a lot (relatively). williamsii, from what i have seen, dont usually pup until they are quite large (10cm+). but some do pup earlier. i have one that was only 2 cm and started to pup. now at 5 cm it has 2 pups and is growing in a crest type style, but not a crest.

all you can do is wait and see...or graft it.....grafting generally makes things pup.

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03-22-07, 17:11	#1 (permalink)
Deft Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 12	Loph growing and care I obtained 3 2.5cm lophs last xmass but have a few questions that I could not find answers to in the grow guides online. First, can regular old lophs self polinate? I had one flower allready and it produced a few seeds that I scatered around the plant but none came up. Second, at what age and general size will my lophs start putting out pups naturaly? Would I have to graft to see a substantial number of pups?

03-22-07, 20:35	#3 (permalink)
joey_megabucks Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 745	my peyote finally produced a pup after 7 years. they grow really slow. but is sooo cute! __________________ Creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable.

03-22-07, 21:27	#7 (permalink)
joey_megabucks Mycotopiate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 745	yes you can graft it. I recommend grafting to a tricocerus peruvianus or t. pachanoi. sorry i've got no pics. my little girl is not with me at the moment. i'm not in a great growing area so i left her with a friend in another state. good luck __________________ Creation is God exploring God's Self through every way imaginable.

03-22-07, 21:40	#8 (permalink)
Sunstar Gazer of the innerself Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,104	A book like this may help. May want to see if you can obtain a copy from an online seller or a used bookstore Attached Thumbnails __________________ I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round, how I love to watch them roll ~John Lennon~

03-22-07, 20:48	#4 (permalink)
oibchip Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,054	Is a "pup" and a "button" the same thing?

03-22-07, 21:22	#6 (permalink)
Deft Mycophiliac Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 12	Makes me wonder, can I just graft it to any old columnar cacti from the nursery? I assume it will be good as long as it grows fast and has that ring of Xylem or floem stuff.. I allmost failed botany lol.

03-23-07, 09:54	#9 (permalink)
Godflesh Mycotopiate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 612	Check this out! __________________ Eye am Why am Eye

03-25-07, 09:29	#11 (permalink)
oibchip Space Lord Modulator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,054	Thanks for the clarification Spacecake.

03-20-08, 23:17	#12 (permalink)
Nunyabiz The Gate Keeper Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 210	Your flowers will eventually put out good seeds.. They can self polinate.. As for pups it can take forever.. Some do it spontaniously(caespitosa). Most take age to offset unless grafted.. The pics are a few examples.. The one with the pups is a young caespitosa.. The other one looks like williamsii, could be fricii no pups and its very old.. Attached Thumbnails

03-21-08, 01:58	#13 (permalink)
Kadass Gardner Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 70	only L. williamsii is self-fertile. L. diffusa, koehresii and fricii are not. i find that diffusa, fricii, jourdiana, and to a lesser extent koehressii all pup a lot (relatively). williamsii, from what i have seen, dont usually pup until they are quite large (10cm+). but some do pup earlier. i have one that was only 2 cm and started to pup. now at 5 cm it has 2 pups and is growing in a crest type style, but not a crest. all you can do is wait and see...or graft it.....grafting generally makes things pup.

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