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    Old 03-27-07, 18:21   #1 (permalink)
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    Question what if...? (too much phosphoric acid)
    i made some ayahuasca brew using the phosphoric acid method and i used to much phosphoric acid, i was thinking i could add baking soda to the brew to neutralize the exess phosphoric, would this work? i have heard of people doing this to neutralize exess HCl and the byproduct is CO2 and NaCl (table salt), what are the byproducts of a baking soda/phosphoric acid reaction? would they be harmful?
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    it's fine. you can add a bit at a time if it tastes way too acidic.
    careful, it's not hard to add too much though. yucky.
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    can't be done.

    phos does not evap, adding a base will not help. its dead. for real.
    go to the aya forums for Aya advice.
    you have a type of battery acid now.
    you only need 15drops of phos per gal H2O
    sorry
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    what are you talking about, dude?
    adding base will certainly help.
    battery acid? what?
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    i made some ayahuasca brew using the phosphoric acid method and i used to much phosphoric acid, i was thinking i could add baking soda to the brew to neutralize the exess phosphoric, would this work? i have heard of people doing this to neutralize exess HCl and the byproduct is CO2 and NaCl (table salt), what are the byproducts of a baking soda/phosphoric acid reaction? would they be harmful?
    CO<sub>2</sub>, NaH<sub>2</sub>PO<sub>4</sub>, Na<sub>2</sub>HPO<sub>4</sub>, Na<sub>3</sub>PO<sub>4</sub>, H<sub>2</sub>O, I would think (the exact proportions depending on how much baking soda is used). In reality, this means that you'll have a solution with various amounts of different ionic species: Na<sup>+</sup>, H<sub>2</sub>PO<sub>4</sub><sup>-</sup>, HPO<sub>4</sub><sup>2-</sup>, PO<sub>4</sub><sup>3-</sup>, HCO<sub>3</sub><sup>-</sup>, etc..
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    you have a type of battery acid now.
    A type of battery acid like civet perianal scent gland secretions*?
    <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> * In other words, not battery acid at all**?
    ** Because I'm assuming that you are referring to lead/acid batteries and if you try to use phosphoric acid in a such a battery I don't believe that it's going to work at all (just off the top of my head).
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