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    Old 04-01-07, 01:03   #1 (permalink)
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    Drano as a source of sodium hydroxide LYE
    I found some of this drano kitchen crystals and it says that it contains sodium hydroxide but it doesnt list anyhting else. would this be okay to use in a mescaline extraction?

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    absolutely not.

    every drano product that i've ever seen has lots more than NaOH in it.

    get roebic brand crystal drain opener from lowe's or go to ace hardware -- many ace's have [nearly] pure lye products.
    open the cap. if you see anything but white, crystalline solid inside, look elsewhere.

    or get KOH.

    KOH and NaOH are available online.
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    ALthough one uses about 1.5x KOH than NaOH it has the unique abilty to resist emulsion. It also is readily available via a quick seach for soapmaking supplies or biodiesel supplies. One reliable otc source of 30% KOH solution is a hydro store for pH up. be sure it is a simple KOH solution some also use KCO3. Allowing the basified cactus a 4-6 day rest helps break down the cellular structures. and frees the FB from the plant material for much quicker and easier pulls once extraction has begun.
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    I found some of this drano kitchen crystals and it says that it contains sodium hydroxide but it doesnt list anyhting else. would this be okay to use in a mescaline extraction?
    No way. The Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for Drano Kitchen Crystals lists the following four ingredients:

    Sodium hydroxide
    Aluminum
    Sodium nitrate
    Sodium chloride

    Don't bother with the Zep crystals either, if you find them. I see a lot of Zep products; only one that is 100% sodium hydroxide is Zep Heavy Duty Drain Opener. It's always a good idea to check the MSDS for all the chemicals you use if you are unsure of their content.
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    good info bro! msds sheets are our friend.
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    I have seen some at ACE hardware that says right on the bottle "100% Pure LYE". Didn't know I found something good till I read that and was like BINGO!
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