Mescaline extract question/help

[hiimt0ny]

Okay so im pulling the xylene out and extracting with hcl solution and evap. in a dish like the tek calls for... and now i have light green crystals... so i need a little help.
Either
1. i didnt let emulsions seperate which is a good possibility becaus ei dont even know how an emulsion looks.
OR
2. i might have sucked up a little of the bottum layer getting some of the lye solution because i kept pulling xylene when it was really thin....

something is def. wrong because my first pull was light green and weighed 3.5 grams from 300 grams of total cactus to start with so something is def. not write... any help on maybe cleaning the crystals or how to avoid. i am pretty sure i bastered the bottum level on the first pull because i was mroe carefull with the 2nd and third and they dont have nearly as much shit in them... almost pure white crystals... any help on cleaning it... thanks.

[Elf Salvation]

Once you evap and dry your salt, you can wash it with acetone several times..
pour in some acetone stirr it around. let it settle then decant and repeat...

[akoutdoors]

I THINK all you need to do is repeat the last extraction over being more carefull or Use a narrower tube or bottle so the stuff seperates in a thick layer rather than a thin film.

[StatelyPlumpBuck]

Originally Posted by hiimt0ny

Okay so im pulling the xylene out and extracting with hcl solution and evap. in a dish like the tek calls for... and now i have light green crystals... so i need a little help.
Either
1. i didnt let emulsions seperate which is a good possibility becaus ei dont even know how an emulsion looks.
OR
2. i might have sucked up a little of the bottum layer getting some of the lye solution because i kept pulling xylene when it was really thin....

something is def. wrong because my first pull was light green and weighed 3.5 grams from 300 grams of total cactus to start with so something is def. not write... any help on maybe cleaning the crystals or how to avoid. i am pretty sure i bastered the bottum level on the first pull because i was mroe carefull with the 2nd and third and they dont have nearly as much shit in them... almost pure white crystals... any help on cleaning it... thanks.

I think #2 is your problem. You pulled some cactus gunk with your xy. I bet the crystals smell like bitter cactus, whereas your cleaner pulls smell like earthy mesc.

[hiimt0ny]

so would the acetone wash out the lye?

[synth]

an emulsion is when the layers don't separate.
your xylene, the top layer, may acquire some color, but it should
be clear, not cloudy. after you draw xylene off, if you accidentally
take some of the bottom layer with it, this is ok. just let it settle for
10 mins and carefully draw the xylene off again from the new container.
only then should you proceed to the next step.

your yield may be around 1% by mass.
3.5g from 300g on the first pull seems pretty high, so i'd think it's impure.
you probably brought some basified cactus sludge with the xylene
and then salted. so your product is now a mix of table salt, mescaline,
and some cactus.

if you added (in terms of mols) less HCl than there was lye in what you drew
up with the xylene, it may have failed altogether.
in this case, perhaps some or all of your mescaline is in that xylene.

acetone wash probably won't help you a whole ton here.
if you want to have something more pure:
break it up and get it all nice and dry to make sure any
excess HCl that might be there evaporates and then add like 2 - 10g of
NaOH (doesn't really matter) and like 200-300 mL of water (always add
bases and acids to water, not the other way around), shake, and add
some xylene. proceed as before, but more carefully.

but personally, i wouldn't really care. i assume you're just going to consume
the product orally, so i would just use it as-is. the mescaline is still in there,
along with some impurities. so you just have to experiment and dose a bit higher.

hope this helps

[thevagrant]

i have the exact same problem. has anyone tested the green crystals for potency? after a single acetone wash they go from turquoise/green to more or less perfect white.

[dimension traveler]

If it were me I would go along the lines synth explained. solute crystals into water basify to 12, add xylene seperate good, do you have sep funnel? if not freeze water wont take long for small amount and poor xylene off fast, then salt as usual. if done right no need for acetone wash, in my own experiences acetone doesnt get perfect so always try to salt perfectly. good luck

[thevagrant]

id say there is 99.5% positivity that there is no base water / cactus getting into the xylene. the extractions are spaced by at least 24 hrs to let matter settle, and great care given to removing xylene. sometimes crystal come green, and naturally when more acid is used they come browned a little. just curious about the state of the green crystals, if anyone can compare them to other outputs.

[whatchamacallit]

SWIM would suggest an acetone and/or 99% iso alcohol wash, and that should remove almost all the color from the crystals. One could re-extract, or recrystallize, but the cleaning steps should get it cleaner, and good enough to dose pretty accurately.