please someone identify this cactus

i01231 · 06-09-07, 14:48

bought this little cactus at Walmart. Looks like a Peyote, but it does have spines. Peyote doesnt have spines.
The sticker says "grown in Canada". Peyote is legal in Canada.
Does anyone know what cactus it is ?

yerbaadam · 06-09-07, 15:23

Absolutely NOT Paeyoty, wich is never that shiney, doesn't have spikes, grows in a different geometry, and takes a LONG time to get that big.

Sorry, I can not Tell yoU wHAt it is, Just whAt it is NOT.

>Yer FriEnd,
NasCar denDriTE duDLEy

mycobri · 06-09-07, 15:32

i have seen them in stores too, not sure what they are

Nice cactus anyways

i01231 · 06-09-07, 16:51

im not really excited about the beauty of it, i'm more excited about my little baby peruvian torch. They're two weeks old now.

loochypooch · 06-09-07, 21:10

I'm very certain its a Gymnocalycium of some sort -- there are about 70 varieties that are common ornamental cactus.

I bet the flower is glued on! One of my Gymnocalycium is actually blooming right now btw, and it has a green outer lining of the flower as well as a short stem, which yours doesn't appear to have at all. You'll see these at Wal-Mart all the time...all with glued on paper flowers.

xerimyco · 06-09-07, 21:11

It's a Gymnocalycium. With a fake flower glued to it. Some Gymnos have minute traces of active alkaloids. VERY minute.

i01231 · 06-09-07, 21:40

dam ... i'm rolling on the floor and laugh my ass off.

I was wondering, why these flowers at the top of the cacti would last two weeks and seemed to have some goo coming out.

WALMART BASTARDS !

And me fool was looking to harvest some seeds .... haha ...

bode · 06-09-07, 21:40

Most problably Gymnocalycium horstii,,, will see if I have a picture here!

bode · 06-09-07, 21:43

"dam ... i'm rolling on the floor and laugh my ass off.
I was wondering, why these flowers at the top of the cacti would last two weeks and seemed to have some goo coming out.
WALMART BASTARDS !
And me fool was looking to harvest some seeds .... haha ..."

Ohhh man, that happen,,, try harder and you´ll find one good specimen of what you´re looking for,,,,

loochypooch · 06-09-07, 21:56

Well, my flower is closed for the time being, and these are not great pictures, but a flowering Gymnocalycium none the less.

Come to think of it, in the first picture, I think that is another type of Gymnocalycium and it has about 5 tiny flower buds coming up -- woot!

xerimyco · 06-10-07, 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochypooch

Well, my flower is closed for the time being, and these are not great pictures, but a flowering Gymnocalycium none the less.

Come to think of it, in the first picture, I think that is another type of Gymnocalycium and it has about 5 tiny flower buds coming up -- woot!

Yeah, those are two Gymnocalyciums and a Obregonia. Nice.

August West · 03-30-08, 02:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by i01231

Peyote is legal in Canada.

I'm pretty sure that Peyote is NOT legal in Canada. If memory serves me, at the border Canadian customs informed FOAF that what he was trying to carry over the border into the states was a schedule III - decriminalized. As in, not legal. The difference is actually quite significant.

Hidra · 03-30-08, 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by August West

I'm pretty sure that Peyote is NOT legal in Canada. If memory serves me, at the border Canadian customs informed FOAF that what he was trying to carry over the border into the states was a schedule III - decriminalized. As in, not legal. The difference is actually quite significant.

peyote is legal in canada....

Canada #
According to the 2001 Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (which replaced the older Narcotics Control Act) mescaline is listed as a schedule III drug, while peyote is specifically exempted from Canada's Controlled Substances list. However, if peyote is prepared for ingestion (ground, made into tea, etc), it is possible that it would be treated as "mescaline" rather than as "peyote" which could make the preparation illegal.

August West · 03-30-08, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hidra

peyote is legal in canada....

Canada #
According to the 2001 Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (which replaced the older Narcotics Control Act) mescaline is listed as a schedule III drug, while peyote is specifically exempted from Canada's Controlled Substances list. However, if peyote is prepared for ingestion (ground, made into tea, etc), it is possible that it would be treated as "mescaline" rather than as "peyote" which could make the preparation illegal.

FOAF read this too, before he went to Canada to purchase Peyote. It may or may not still be the case, but Canadian border patrol interpreted the law in their own fashion - calling the plant itself a Schedule III. I suppose if it came down to an extended legal proceeding, one would be let off?

FOAF was in no position unfortunately to argue the letter of the law.

Hidra · 03-30-08, 16:17

well, you can buy them in a lot of store here...

if you were trying to bring them back in the states, thats completely illegal, first its a live plants (you would need a certificate to be able to bring them in usa) and second, they are illegal in the states...

but if you are growing them in canada, you are not comitting a crime...
they have nothing against you, unless you make them ready for consumption...

Nightwind · 04-05-08, 19:53

its a cool cactus all the same,
give it life and love,
you found a new friend.

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06-09-07, 14:48	#1 (permalink)
i01231 Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 174	please someone identify this cactus bought this little cactus at Walmart. Looks like a Peyote, but it does have spines. Peyote doesnt have spines. The sticker says "grown in Canada". Peyote is legal in Canada. Does anyone know what cactus it is ? Attached Thumbnails

06-09-07, 16:51	#4 (permalink)
i01231 Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 174	im not really excited about the beauty of it, i'm more excited about my little baby peruvian torch. They're two weeks old now. Attached Thumbnails

06-09-07, 21:10	#5 (permalink)
loochypooch Heavy Metal Drummer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 714	I'm very certain its a Gymnocalycium of some sort -- there are about 70 varieties that are common ornamental cactus. I bet the flower is glued on! One of my Gymnocalycium is actually blooming right now btw, and it has a green outer lining of the flower as well as a short stem, which yours doesn't appear to have at all. You'll see these at Wal-Mart all the time...all with glued on paper flowers. __________________ “Thou, O God, dost sell us all good things at the price of labor” --Da Vinci

06-09-07, 21:43	#9 (permalink)
bode Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 19	"dam ... i'm rolling on the floor and laugh my ass off. I was wondering, why these flowers at the top of the cacti would last two weeks and seemed to have some goo coming out. WALMART BASTARDS ! And me fool was looking to harvest some seeds .... haha ..." Ohhh man, that happen,,, try harder and you´ll find one good specimen of what you´re looking for,,,, Attached Thumbnails

06-09-07, 15:23	#2 (permalink)
yerbaadam SpectraL veNtriloQuist Join Date: Jul 1971 Posts: 798	Absolutely NOT Paeyoty, wich is never that shiney, doesn't have spikes, grows in a different geometry, and takes a LONG time to get that big. Sorry, I can not Tell yoU wHAt it is, Just whAt it is NOT. >Yer FriEnd, NasCar denDriTE duDLEy

06-09-07, 15:32	#3 (permalink)
mycobri Stained Blue Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,731	i have seen them in stores too, not sure what they are Nice cactus anyways

06-09-07, 21:11	#6 (permalink)
xerimyco Mycophage Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 102	It's a Gymnocalycium. With a fake flower glued to it. Some Gymnos have minute traces of active alkaloids. VERY minute.

06-09-07, 21:40	#7 (permalink)
i01231 Mycophage Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 174	dam ... i'm rolling on the floor and laugh my ass off. I was wondering, why these flowers at the top of the cacti would last two weeks and seemed to have some goo coming out. WALMART BASTARDS ! And me fool was looking to harvest some seeds .... haha ...

06-09-07, 21:40	#8 (permalink)
bode Mycophiliac Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 19	Most problably Gymnocalycium horstii,,, will see if I have a picture here!

06-09-07, 21:56	#10 (permalink)
loochypooch Heavy Metal Drummer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 714	Well, my flower is closed for the time being, and these are not great pictures, but a flowering Gymnocalycium none the less. Come to think of it, in the first picture, I think that is another type of Gymnocalycium and it has about 5 tiny flower buds coming up -- woot! Attached Thumbnails __________________ “Thou, O God, dost sell us all good things at the price of labor” --Da Vinci

03-30-08, 16:17	#15 (permalink)
Hidra Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 331	well, you can buy them in a lot of store here... if you were trying to bring them back in the states, thats completely illegal, first its a live plants (you would need a certificate to be able to bring them in usa) and second, they are illegal in the states... but if you are growing them in canada, you are not comitting a crime... they have nothing against you, unless you make them ready for consumption...

04-05-08, 19:53	#16 (permalink)
Nightwind Tohunga Toa Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 83	its a cool cactus all the same, give it life and love, you found a new friend.

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