Harmine and Tyramines

[o0AlKeMiSt0o]

Reading the wikipedia I've found the following:

It is important to note that unlike synthetic pharmaceitical MAOIs such as Phenelzine, harmine is reversible and selective meaning it does not have nearly as high a risk for the "cheese syndrome" caused by consuming tyramine-containing foods, which is a risk associated with monoamine oxidase A inhibitors, but not monoamine oxidase B inhibitors.

Is important to note it says not-as-high, so there is still some risk but is not as bad as I though it was.

I have taken syrian rue extracs and drunk a beer or to a couple of hours later in the past and I was Ok.

Anyone has mixed the harmala alkaloids with tyramin rich foods and survived to tell us their experience?

Your comments are appreciated.

[Hippie3]

i did once, got a bad headache but survived

[Illusion25]

i have taken syrain rue with peruvian torch cacti.
didnt notice and increased bad side effects but didnt notice any increased potency either.(id be happy to explain furthur)

Syrain rue works best with shrooms for me.

1st post btw....been lurking on here for years and years. just decided to finally come out and add to the community.

PEace

[elcielo]

I mixed syrian rue and shrooms

and then ate cheese salami and olives

not sure if olives are high in tyramine

but salami and cheese are


I was totally fine....

[Phalaris-oid]

Hey all,

Here is my recent (experiments) experiences with Syrian Rue (Harmaline)


1. took 2 Sudafed tablets (120mg each of Psueoephederine) = 240mg of time release Sudafed 12 Hour, non drowsy.

Ate 1.5g of rue seed approx. 4 hours after the 2 Sudafed tablets.

Result:
I could feel my heart nearly bursting, like I was about to have heart failure. I felt this effect from taking about 4 or so 120mg tablets of psuedoephederine before. The Syrain Rue, definately potentiated the Sudafed to about 2-4 times its normal strength.


Ate 2g of Syrian Rue seeds.
- Went biking and found it difficult to concentrate on jumps and wheelies.
- Smoked some pot after 1 hr. and noticed the pot more potent that it had ever been. My eyes became blurred and I kept saying "i'm so high".

Result: Syrian Rue Potentiates pot quite well.


Ate 2g of Syrian Rue seeds.
Waited about 1 hour and ate about 120mg of very sticky, and dirty DMT crystals made from Phalaris Grass. (The crystals and goo didn't get me high in a pipe after many many attempts, and using a glass pipe and torch. Just a minor 5meoDMT like buzz.)
I knew this DMT extract was mostly 5meoDMT and other alkaloids.

I put it all in a capsule (emptied an herbal capsule) and swallowed it.

Result: About 30 Minutes I could feel the effects. Very little visuals, but major head buzz and panic. Distressing feelings and anxiety. Not really that fun at all. I'm guessing pure DMT extracts would be better. It lasted for about 4 hours and wished it didn't.


Ate 2g of Syrian Rue.
- 1 hour later ate 1 oz of chocolate, 2 beers and a burger. I could feel the chocolate building a buzz inside me. I was now certainly high on chocolate.


Ate 4g of Syrian Rue.
- 1 hour later ate 1 single Tylenol3 Tablet (codeine)
Result: I thought I was going to OD. My vision became very blurred, my head was 'foggy' and I couldn't function or think. I was very numb and it reminded me of OXYContin or Morphine tablets.
I would say it made on tablet feel more like taking about 6-8 Tylenol3 Tablets at once. Scary. Once in you, there is no going back, or whoopsies. . .

I never feel sick or nausia from eating Syrian Rue. Some people vomit right away, but I actually like the taste and chew on the seeds frequently for stimulation.


My conclusion:
Syrain Rue is very powerful. Be careful. It seems unpredictible too, not the same results every time.

With 3-10 grams of Syrain Rue in you, the effects of minor traces of Trypamines in foods will affect you, but not trip you out hard.

I was amazed to see that a small amount of 5meodmt (5-10mg) can become orally active. Overdosing is very much possible. Imagine taking a full Oxycontin/Morphine pill and Syrain Rue? You would likely die. Simple as that.

The Phalaris Grass /juice/tea thing really works with Syrian Rue. About 1 cup of grass juice will send you to the moon. Its not always a good trip though. In fact, most trip reports with Syrian Rue are negative reports. Keep that in mind, while you still have one.

Take care.

j

[AndyLandy420]

i have eaten bad food during a rue inhibition and got a headache before i even finished my meal but i was fine.
a new thing i have been experiementing with is taking mescaline hcl while on an maoi, so sweet, i recomend anyone who trys this starts low because maoi's potentiate the fuck out of mescaline for me at least. it felt to me that the maoi made the mesc approx 3X times stronger, meaning if i take 200mg mesc while on an maoi it feels about like taking 600mg mesc by itself. the most ive done is 500mg mesc about an hour after drinking a caapi concoction and it was by far the strongest mescaline trip ive ever had and ive taken 1200mg before. very pleasent and intensely beautiful. just start low

[raveneye]

I've had really squirly times mixing San Pedro and Rue. It seemed to potetiate the hell out of the speedy aspects of the Pedro. Just about went out of my skull. Not fun at all. It did not just intensify the good stuff. Be careful, never again for me.

[AndyLandy420]

i havent tryed mixing maoi with the cactus itself nor would i recomend it

[mycot]

I know someone who was enjoying and doing fine off of syrian rue until they had a glass of orange juice.(seeking to avoid alcohol) Well they felt sick as a dog after that, spoiling the previous good feeling. I dont think syrian rue combines well with citrus of any sort.
Another mate recons that sugar should be minimized or avoided when taking beta-carbolines.

i tripped on rue and shrooms before and it was pretty intense.. the next day, i had beef and beans and chocolate during lunch and got headaches that didnt last long.. kinda like a 30minute headache..

it does make a lot of things stronger.. be careful..