cactus collection and loph help

casgoodie · 07-04-07, 13:45

i've been away for a while but i missed mycotopia, before i dissapeared for a while i started my cactus collection, got a few cuttings and seeds. here's the progress. after a lot of error i can finally identify trichocereus species much easier and finally found a nice pachanoi at h0me depot this summer.

as far as the loph seedlings, they've been slow, should i transplant them? what to do? are they just reaaaaally slow. anyway hope you enjoy the pics. i'm pretty sure the new growth on the bridgesii is monstrose, it doesn't look like a normal pup...

CoyoteMesc · 07-04-07, 14:05

man, nice collection!
The lophs that I was growing were slow.
And thats just the way they are. Just ask Spacecake, his loph grow log is FAR from over...lol But yeah they are slow. The only time I ever noticed sufficient growth was under lights for 24. But I over watered before the summer so I couldnt tell ya about the warmer outdoors. I noticed that other members has some cactus seedlings that are doing very well in MG soil/(not lophs tho). I used cactus soil and I think that it drys to quick for seedlings, but thats just me. Good luck...Beautiful cacti for sure

spacecake · 07-04-07, 15:26

hihi lol ...

Don't transplant the first year !
After a couple of month they will turn from tall to thick and get more shape.
Next year in march ,transplant if you think it's needed,and don't use to big a pots (clay) twice the size of the cacti will do.

spacecake · 07-04-07, 15:28

o and btw those seedlings need more light by the looks of it,long and skinny and light in color -not good !

Are those the lopo's in the fifth picture your talking aboud ?

casgoodie · 07-05-07, 00:17

thanks for the tips sc,
the lophs are the ones in the 5th pic,
i guess they have a lot to go till they get thick then

rocketman · 07-05-07, 00:22

The best way to speed up a lophs growth is to graft to another cactus. Periskiopsis, a trichocereus, or a myrtillocactus are all fine grafting stock.

I dont think you can get monstrose growth from a non mutated cactus. I mean, you wont get monstrose pups from a regular bridgesii.

yerbaadam · 07-06-07, 01:15

Is 24 hour light acceptable for lophs? A friend has some 6 month olds that he would love to see grow to grafting size a little sooner.
Is 24 hr. light ok for torches etc. also? Do you need to have them that way for only certain times of year/ lifespan?

Sorry fer being a tard. I am just learning.

>Yer friend,
nAscAr denDriTE duDLEy

casgoodie · 07-07-07, 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman

The best way to speed up a lophs growth is to graft to another cactus. Periskiopsis, a trichocereus, or a myrtillocactus are all fine grafting stock.
I dont think you can get monstrose growth from a non mutated cactus. I mean, you wont get monstrose pups from a regular bridgesii.

i guess i will definately graft some of them, but how big do they need to be?

i thought that monstrose was created when an object gets deposited in the cactus flesh and it mutates. i have never seen a bridgesii pup before so i may be wrong, cant wait to see it grow out

rocketman · 07-07-07, 09:59

Let me spare you the suspense, it is not a monstrose, although its a very nice cactus. Typically any loph the size of a pencil eraser is large enough to graft. Only graft during the growing season, never in winter dormancy.http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...ra-grafts.html (Lophophora Grafts)

yerbaadam · 07-09-07, 10:38

Ahem....

spacecake · 07-09-07, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by yerbaadam

Ahem....

I don't have the answer,sorry.

rocketman · 07-09-07, 12:26

I believe the lophs need the darkness. Re creating the light cycle of the desert they are native to would be best imo.

They really dont like full sun all day, I do know that from my experience.

yerbaadam · 07-09-07, 17:16

So wouLd having mY tiMEr cut off the hEat maT when the lights go out be advisable for simulating The coOl deSsert night?

rocketman · 07-09-07, 17:37

Exactly

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07-04-07, 13:45	#1 (permalink)
casgoodie human (?) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 475	cactus collection and loph help i've been away for a while but i missed mycotopia, before i dissapeared for a while i started my cactus collection, got a few cuttings and seeds. here's the progress. after a lot of error i can finally identify trichocereus species much easier and finally found a nice pachanoi at h0me depot this summer. as far as the loph seedlings, they've been slow, should i transplant them? what to do? are they just reaaaaally slow. anyway hope you enjoy the pics. i'm pretty sure the new growth on the bridgesii is monstrose, it doesn't look like a normal pup... Attached Thumbnails

07-04-07, 14:05	#2 (permalink)
CoyoteMesc KEY MASTER Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,509	man, nice collection! The lophs that I was growing were slow. And thats just the way they are. Just ask Spacecake, his loph grow log is FAR from over...lol But yeah they are slow. The only time I ever noticed sufficient growth was under lights for 24. But I over watered before the summer so I couldnt tell ya about the warmer outdoors. I noticed that other members has some cactus seedlings that are doing very well in MG soil/(not lophs tho). I used cactus soil and I think that it drys to quick for seedlings, but thats just me. Good luck...Beautiful cacti for sure __________________

07-04-07, 15:26	#3 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,790	hihi lol ... Don't transplant the first year ! After a couple of month they will turn from tall to thick and get more shape. Next year in march ,transplant if you think it's needed,and don't use to big a pots (clay) twice the size of the cacti will do. __________________ Neurologic

07-04-07, 15:28	#4 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,790	o and btw those seedlings need more light by the looks of it,long and skinny and light in color -not good ! Are those the lopo's in the fifth picture your talking aboud ? __________________ Neurologic Last edited by spacecake : 07-04-07 at 15:32. Reason: Spelling

07-05-07, 00:17	#5 (permalink)
casgoodie human (?) Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 475	thanks for the tips sc, the lophs are the ones in the 5th pic, i guess they have a lot to go till they get thick then

07-05-07, 00:22	#6 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 3,291	The best way to speed up a lophs growth is to graft to another cactus. Periskiopsis, a trichocereus, or a myrtillocactus are all fine grafting stock. I dont think you can get monstrose growth from a non mutated cactus. I mean, you wont get monstrose pups from a regular bridgesii. __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

07-06-07, 01:15	#7 (permalink)
yerbaadam SpectraL veNtriloQuist Join Date: Jul 1971 Posts: 791	WOW! Is 24 hour light acceptable for lophs? A friend has some 6 month olds that he would love to see grow to grafting size a little sooner. Is 24 hr. light ok for torches etc. also? Do you need to have them that way for only certain times of year/ lifespan? Sorry fer being a tard. I am just learning. >Yer friend, nAscAr denDriTE duDLEy

07-07-07, 09:59	#9 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 3,291	Let me spare you the suspense, it is not a monstrose, although its a very nice cactus. Typically any loph the size of a pencil eraser is large enough to graft. Only graft during the growing season, never in winter dormancy.http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...ra-grafts.html (Lophophora Grafts) __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

07-09-07, 10:38	#10 (permalink)
yerbaadam SpectraL veNtriloQuist Join Date: Jul 1971 Posts: 791	Any help about the 24 light cycle? Ahem....

07-09-07, 12:26	#12 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 3,291	I believe the lophs need the darkness. Re creating the light cycle of the desert they are native to would be best imo. They really dont like full sun all day, I do know that from my experience. __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

07-09-07, 17:16	#13 (permalink)
yerbaadam SpectraL veNtriloQuist Join Date: Jul 1971 Posts: 791	So wouLd having mY tiMEr cut off the hEat maT when the lights go out be advisable for simulating The coOl deSsert night?

07-09-07, 17:37	#14 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 3,291	Exactly __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

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