Growing Salvia Seeds

[warriorsoul]

Heres a couple sites for people ineterested in propagating Salvia divinorum from seed.


Growing your OWN Salvia Divinorum Seeds

http://sagewisdom.org]

[pcsillypj]

you know i always read that salvia seeds were pretty much impossible to find...almost100% of all salvia plants out there are cuttings...i could be wrong tho'...just my two cents..

[warriorsoul]

Your right, they are almost impossible to find..the key word being "almost".They are very very rare.

[pcsillypj]

well i tried usin that link you posted and it doesn't work...but if in fact there was seeds available i for one would definitely be most interested in the idea of growing salvia from seeds....i just can't get over the fact that seeds are actually available for salvia...but then again...are you sure it's salvia divinorum seeds and not garden variety salvia..?

[warriorsoul]

Click on this.. Growing your OWN Salvia Divinorum Seeds they dont sell the seeds. Though they do provide some info on growing salvia to set seed.Good Luck!

[warriorsoul]

Sorry, try this Growing your OWN Salvia Divinorum Seeds Btw they dont sell the seeds, they provide info on getting your salvia to flower and set seed.

[pcsillypj]

this is pretty cool...this read goes against everything i have ever read about salvia...i've never seen pic of them flowering like that b4...hence why i am so apprehensive about the whole seed thing...just strikes a remarkable resembelence to garden variety salvia is all...

[rocketman]

Seed grown salvia is frail. You are better off with clones. Also, I would be willing to bet if you got seeds they arent sd.

[pcsillypj]

Originally Posted by rocketman

Seed grown salvia is frail. You are better off with clones. Also, I would be willing to bet if you got seeds they arent sd.

thats what i thought...it was my gut feelin...nice to see you around rm..

[warriorsoul]

Thats true.I bet as time passes we'll start seeing more salvia seeds as breeders attempt to grow from seeds and the genetics diverisify.And yes the flowers do share a visual similarity to non-psychoactive salivia.

I would be very apprehensive about buying any seeds at the present time.

[camMyco]

Originally Posted by warriorsoul

Click on this.. Growing your OWN Salvia Divinorum Seeds they dont sell the seeds. Though they do provide some info on growing salvia to set seed.Good Luck!

Here is the first link corrected. The Salvia divinorum Research and Information Center

[Hippie3]

i'd be VERY SKEPTICAL of anyone claiming to have viable salvia divinorum seeds,
the cases i've seen turned out not to be actual salvia divinorum
but close relatives in the salvia family such as the sage & mint.

[pcsillypj]

it stills boggles my mind in any case how much salvia can mess your world up and it's still legal in almost all 50 sates...

[aumbrellaforainydays]

that "still" is up in question, as the drug war barons try to assilimilate more "evil drugs" into their draconic prohibition of natural substances far less toxic than fermented sugar water or pharmaceutical painkillers.

[rocketman]

There is usually a direct correlation between the amount of negative media attention and the legal status of certain entheogens.

One dumb ass can ruin it for everyone else.

[oyster bill]

it is actually illegal in my state as of january...better get my plants now

salvia divinorum is largely believed to exist only as a cultivated plant kept from extinction by the mazatec indians... the only known patches are cultivated and the plant is a very weak reproducer... from what i understand, it only rarely produces viable seed and that almost all the plants are nearly genetically identical... the idea of creating genetic diversity out of an already bottle-necked pool is impossible...

from what i have read and heard (as of yet i have not grown it) to get the best results it is recommended to get clones rather than seeds

[warriorsoul]

At one time it was believed that

Salvia divinorum did not produce
viable seed, and the only manner in which it could be
reproduced was by cuttings (Emboden 1972; Schultes 1972;

Heffern

1974; Mayer 1977; Foster 1984). While this belief
is now known to be in error, it is true that S. divinorum

only rarely sets seed. Those wishing to grow

S. divinorum from
seed face three obstacles: a low seed set, a low germination
rate, and a low survival rate.
The first inkling that Salvia divinorum did indeed produce
viable seed came from the 1973 book Growing the Hallucinogens,
wherein the author stated that, “This salvia is generally
grown from cuttings, but I know of one instance in which it
was grown from seed” (Grubber 1973).
Then in 1980 while working on his Ph.D. dissertation, Leander
J. Valdés III performed breeding experiments in
which he cross-pollinated 14 Salvia divinorum flowers (using
the “Cerro Quemado” clone and a “Wasson/Hofmann”
clone). 4 flowers were pollinated successfully, and 8 seeds
were produced (not 4 as has mistakenly been stated; Ott

1996). A photo of these 8 seeds was published in 1987, the
first time that

S. divinorum seeds had appeared in print
(Valdés et al. 1987). These 8 seeds represent a 14.3% seed
set, since each flower has the potential to produce 4 seeds.
Unfortunately, these seeds were killed by overheating in a
growth chamber, and their viability couldn’t be ascertained
(Valdés 1983).

Aaron Reisfield

was the next person reported to attempt
pollination experiments. Self-pollinated plants with 108 flowers
produced 11 seeds—a 2.5% seed set, and his cross-pollination
of 190 flowers produced 24 seeds—a 3.2% seed set
(Reisfield 1993). Clearly it is difficult to get [i]Salvia divinorum

to produce seed.the anthers and
the pistils of a single flower appear to mature at different
times (a way for a flower to prevent self-pollination)

[warriorsoul]

well we can always hope for a mutant.