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    Old 11-15-07, 18:18   #1 (permalink)
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    Kratom is Here

    Hey everyone,

    I got some Kratom in, and am just about to try it for the first time.

    I got some "farm grown" foliage, so I guess that is the lower
    quality stuff...so I'm going for a 10 gram dose.

    I'm crushing the leaves up, and then the remains are going
    into capsuls.

    I guess I am even going to make a trip to get some grapefruit
    juice.

    Any advice?
    Should be fairly relaxed I imagine.
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    Old 11-15-07, 18:25   #2 (permalink)
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    First time..take 5 or six grams

    Less is better...
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    Old 11-15-07, 18:28   #3 (permalink)
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    That was my original idea, but what do you think
    of the standards posted on erowid? They seem to
    be pretty precise based on the type you buy.

    Kratom

    I have the cheapest stuff, so I was thinking of upping
    the dose.
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    Old 11-15-07, 18:34   #4 (permalink)
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    Also, could Kratom be smoked? I have never seen
    a reference to this...and it sure looks like I'm about
    to roll a fattie blunt.

    The gram count dropped just over a gram after stems
    removed from the pile of crunched up leaves.


    edit: I will also be a bit lazier and just drink the leaves
    down. My stomach can handle it I'm sure...maybe I will
    make tea when I have a better strainer.
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    Old 11-15-07, 18:54   #5 (permalink)
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    Cool...I finally ordered some kratom after a long time of wanting to try it, I now await anxiously for it to arrive

    Did you get the bali or thai?

    And if you're gonna smoke it, I'd atleast extract it first.
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    Old 11-15-07, 19:17   #6 (permalink)
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    Well I've done a little reading just now on smoking the whole
    leaves, although I have already drank my drink (not terrible,
    even with the leaves only being crushed with a spoon in a cup).

    I may try to smoke some also, apparently the effects are short
    acting. I also read that you could boil down the remaining water
    after a hot water extraction into a goop for pills or smoking.
    Who knows. It seems pretty safe to try some different things with it.

    btw: It is actually a hawaiian species.
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    Old 11-15-07, 20:51   #7 (permalink)
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    Grind 6 grams to a fine powder in a coffee grinder then toss it back with water.

    Quality can vary considerably depending on vendor, time of year, etc.

    I love the stuff, whole grind red-green vein thai is my favorite, 3 hours of great effects. Try not to use every day, every other day or every 2nd day or more is best to keep the magic coming. I only use it once at night, right after dinner...tends to keep you up pretty late unless your dead tired.

    It might be hard to smoke 6 grams.
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    Old 11-15-07, 21:18   #8 (permalink)
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    Well it's been a couple hours and little effect is felt
    so far...another dose?
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    Old 11-15-07, 21:24   #9 (permalink)
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    stronger doses, more frequently-
    that's my motto
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    Old 11-15-07, 21:25   #10 (permalink)
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    well kratom is a plant i know to well, and i have been growing 2 trees of them fore 5 years, there alot bigger then when i first got em from my dad, but i grow one with a flan blowing on it for most of the day, and the other one without. and i made pretty much blackish brown tar out of them and it seems the one with the fan blowing on it is way more potent. I have no idea why, but its really good shit thinking of selling it soon, i usually take .2-.4 grams per dose and it feels great.
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    Well it's been a couple hours and little effect is felt
    so far...another dose?
    My peak is normally around 2-3 hours into the trip lasting till 4 -5 hours.
    If I where you I would just keep this dose till the end,then wait a couple of days and try it another time,with more or less Kratom.
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    Old 11-17-07, 04:05   #12 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I guess that's what I will do...

    There was some sedation, but nothing more really,
    maybe I felt a little off at times, nothing much.

    Perhaps it is just potency, I will up the dose next time.
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    Old 11-17-07, 08:19   #13 (permalink)
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    If your eating crushed leaf, yer not going to feel much except indigestion...
    Important to grind as fine as possible so the alkaloids are released rapidly..
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    Old 11-17-07, 09:31   #14 (permalink)
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    Ditto what Golly said, and you may want to buy some super fine whole grind leaf from a reputable vendor. Try 6 grams of theirs, then compare with what you took...I have found the quality to vary depending on who you buy it from. I read on the kratomforum.com board that there was a weak batch of bali that hit in August and stayed around a month or so, many many people found the bali from different vendors to all be weak, some vendors even offered to replace it for free with stuff from a new batch...I have tried red-green vein thai from a particular vendor, and stick with him because it's consistent.
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