Salvia

[waffleinajar]

Recently I was talking to a few friends and they told me about Salvia Divinorom. They said it was a pretty crazy high similar too, but totally diffrent from mushy's. They also said it was 100% legal. Why this is, I don't now, mabey because the high is supposed to only last like ten minets. But I bought an ounce of it for ten dollars off ebay. Im waithing for the delivery now but I herd that although you can get the effects off of the leaves alone you need an extract of it. If anybody has first hand experiance with this I would be really grateful.
And If it is neccesary to get an extract how do I do it WITHOUT Acetone?
Thanks for the help

P.S. If it is awsom and legal I'll tell you guys, we need as many of these plants it our homes as possible before the pigs hear about it.

[oibchip]

It is going to be illegal here soon. Salvia isn't always a "killer" high. It can and will scare the hell out of ya. the leaf can be made into a "quid" and put in your cheek and you will get high from that if you leave it in there long enough..also doing it like that makes the high longer in duration. If you were planning to smoke it, the extract makes it so you only have to take a good hit or two to get ruined. You can smoke the reg leaf but it takes more hits. It is harsh to me so the extract would be my choice if I wanted to smoke some.

[Hippie3]

http://forums.mycotopia.net/salvia-divinorum/

[NEPHROSIS]

There's a few good PDFs by orb on the net, great extraction info.

You can use high % alcohol.

[waffleinajar]

Originally Posted by Hippie3

http://forums.mycotopia.net/salvia-divinorum/

I read that article, it was originally on a diffrent site that I found on google.
I wouldn't waste forum space so carelessly

[oibchip]

lol

[camMyco]

Originally Posted by waffleinajar

I read that article, it was originally on a diffrent site that I found on google.
I wouldn't waste forum space so carelessly

Hippie are you wasting forum space? Shame on you!

[witchdr11]

It can be completely uplifting or a confusing spiral into complete panic and uncontrollable behavior. Everyone reacts different, and each ride can be a way different. Don't bother too much about it, Just smoke it till you are left wondering WTF. You will either repeat it every once in a while ot not at all. It isnt something that is easy to do repeatedly because something about it makes you think twice after having some experience with it. It can be great, but it is almost always an ordeal. Have fun, but respect her or she will likely scare your panties off.

Witchdoctor

[LotRev]

Originally Posted by waffleinajar

I read that article, it was originally on a diffrent site that I found on google.
I wouldn't waste forum space so carelessly

My question is who stole all those threads off of google and made them
into some sort of archive page......and then signed all the members names
on them?

[shroom_seeker]

Originally Posted by waffleinajar

P.S. If it is awsom and legal I'll tell you guys, we need as many of these plants it our homes as possible before the pigs hear about it.

thanks.

[badger1]

I tried salvia for the first time whilst on acid, and it had no effect on me. was it because i was tripping already?

[Toecutter]

If you smoke it, you will only need bowl full to get you
on your way. You need to have a constant flame to
vaporize the slavinorin A. Nothing like grass as far as
smoking goes. You need the constant heat to get any
results. There are many other ways to ingest it but
smoking is the easiest by far. It is nothing like shrooms.
Do not expect to be coherent while under the influence
of salvia. Be careful if this is your first time with salvia.
This is my opinion, but if you use it to get a buzz, you
will get your ass handed to you by it. Focus on a point
of interest and your vision will be more tangible.
You are the mind. You are in control...... Inhale

[witchdr11]

Hee hee ... you are in control until after smoking salvia, you completely forget that you had smoked anything at all and are now wondering how the fuck you got where you are and how the fuck you can get back. No matter how prepared you think you are for salvia, the effect of it will almost always leave you quite out of control, or ambulatory. I am not saying don't do it or it is dangerous or anything like that. Im just noting that Sally is driving after you smoke her

[coastalite]

for me, it was kind of a novelty high. i was just curious about it.
the first time using it produced the most intense high
(yet short-lived) and was a bit scary to tell you the truth,
while subsequent usage was nowhere near like the first time high. maybe cuz i didn't know what to expect.
it literally knocked me on my butt that first time. it reminded me a bit like taking a few hits off a balloon of nitrous. i rather enjoyed the afterglow effect of it.

i still have a few grams of extract lying around,
but have no desire to smoke it again.

[Delafonze19]

Originally Posted by witchdr11

Hee hee ... you are in control until after smoking salvia, you completely forget that you had smoked anything at all and are now wondering how the fuck you got where you are and how the fuck you can get back. No matter how prepared you think you are for salvia, the effect of it will almost always leave you quite out of control, or ambulatory. I am not saying don't do it or it is dangerous or anything like that. Im just noting that Sally is driving after you smoke her

exactlly. I had no idea what was wrong with me like amnesia or something. I hated it. I tried it a second time to make sure. Still garbage. In responce to the guy who tried it on LSD. I was on mushrooms, X , and 5-meo-amt. It overpwered them all. Made the rest of my trip uncomfortable and shitty. Next time I did that combo and after I survived the salvia did a whipit. Longest whipit of my life but the salvia blocked the euforia

[warrensaged]

Hey man,

Salvia needs a higher temp to vaporise the Salvinorin A in the leaves, so if what you have is plain leaf, you should use a torch lighter which will burn it hotter, and keep the flame on the bowl the entire time you are hitting it. Smoking off a "cherried" bowl is not hot enough for plain Salvia leaf. Because of this, a bong or water pipe is handy for making the hotter smoke a bit smother to inhale. You will also need to take like three to six hits to get full effects with plain leaf. Try to toke all of your intended dose within 60 seconds, or the effects will not get more intense, they will however last longer. This is because of how quickly the body metabolizes Salvinorin A, pretty much, as soon as you are feeling the effects, your body is already metabolizing the chemical.

People use extracts so that they can take one small hit, just a whisp of smoke, and get the same extreem effects as smoking a whole bowl of plain leaf. At the same time, it is a very good idea to start out by trying the plain leaf first, to see if you even enjoy the experience.

Please don't think that because Salvia is still legal, that it is gonna be a subtle effect. A lot of first timers take way too big a dose because of this and are pulled out of reality while not remembering that they had smoked anything and not remembering who they are, where they are or what anything is or is not etc....
My point: Start slowly!! This is the real deal!!
Salvia Divinorum is still legal because the chemical Salvinorin A is physicaly nothing like any other Psychedellic chemical. Most Psychedellics are alkaloids. LSD, DMT, Psilosybin, Psylosin, the list goes on. They are all alkaloids, Salvinorin A is not an alkaloid. In fact Salvinorin A is unlike any other psychedellic chemical in existance.
So legaly, when the gov't wants to outlaw a chemical, they can usually do it relativly quickly & easily using the "chemical analog act" (I'm pretty sure thats NOT the official name of the bill, but its close) which states that if "substance X" is a chemical analog (both are alkaloids) of any illegal substance, than "substance X" can be made illegal without having to create a new law for it. "Substance X" has a chemical makeup close enough to "illegal substance Y" so "substance X" is prosicuted under the same laws as "substance Y".
Salvinorin A is NOT an alkaloid or an analog of any other illegal chemical!!! So the gov't will need to create a whole new law based around the chemical makeup of Salvinorin A all by itself. Fortunetly, making more laws that continue to take away more & more freedoms and choices from the public are getting harder and harder to get passed. Thank god!! So its taking them some extra time, but make no mistake, they are in the process of doing this right now!!

There is a ton of Salvia knowledge at sagewisdom.org to check out!!
If this wasn't too much already!!

Cheers

WS

[waffleinajar]

thanks for the info everybody. And thanks a lot warrensaged for the legal info, I knew there was some reason it was still legal but not what.
And to everybody else

[witchdr11]

You can actually smoke joints of salvia and get effects from it. It all depends on the quality of the leaf. A fatty of 10x will still floor you if you in a few hits if you hold it in just like you normally would. You dont even really need a torch lighter. I use bics all the time and have interesting meetings with my little plant allies.

You dont HAVE to get totally slammed off of salvia to get effects. It is all a matter of controlling intake. If I really want to have a session with her I start by smoking some plain leaf, which for me gets good effects every time. I just puff on it nice and casual, working my way into a trance and stopping when I hit my sweet spot. Or on occasion I decide to dive into the infinity of dimensions which exist just nextdoor by following up with an extract enhanced leaf. I think salvia allows some understanding into the true infinite nature of things. It seems to me any imaginable space can become very real for a moment, a simple fact that is usually filtered out by our brains.

Good product is key to the experience if you ask me. I think most problems people have are due to inferior product, or lack of a developed intolereance. My first few attempts I didn't read it's signature. Now I feel it immediately. Its very distinct even at low doses. Undescribable in words, but most distinct.

Ask a boon of the Lady and she may grant it!

Witchdoctor

[waffleinajar]

I just speed smoked two good sized bols of this and my clozets getting bigger and biger. I wouldnt say bomb but my god its huge now.

[PsychoDrogue]

i dont think i could comprehend what a keyboard is used for under the influence of salvia. props for being able to type. lol. the most interaction i've had with my comp while on salvia was when i just happened to have some internet flick playing. the cast of the film started talking to me. telling me to do somethings i shouldn't. i'm glad i was too incapacitated to even walk and fulfill those voices.

heres a website with a good first timer tutorial. the guy used to hang around here but i disappeared for a while and haven't seen him since i've been back

Just Say Once To Salvia Divinorum - Get A Free Sample!

Usually you'll know you've finally had enough when you look down and wonder "wtf, where did this bong come from?"

[AndyLandy420]

the last time i smoked salvia it was 21x standardized. i took one baby rip off a 2 footer and was instantly paralyzed to the core, ya know the foot fell asleep pins and needles feeling? it was like that times 100 billion on every square centimeter of your body, the salvia people were SCREAMING orders at me but i had no clue what it was that they wanted, my room turned into a giant eating machine with many rows of gnashing teeth spinning like gears, there were slavia people standing ontop of it as if they were at the controls of the eating machine, when i didnt obey the commands they threatened to use it on me, i forget how i escaped but i did, i wont be going back to salvia land, she can be a real bitch.

[coastalite]

yeah, i'm done with sally d

[waffleinajar]

Im pretty sure that whole closet growing thing was in my head now.
Iv had a fat quib in my mouth now for like thirty minets now chewing on it, now swollowing, and am not feeling jack didly shit. I think I need to make an extract.

[PsychoDrogue]

wow. intense. i've got some 80x laying around that brought me into a place like that. but the regular 20x stuff isn't that crazy for me... was the stuff you used 'standardized'? i dont even know what the difference is but most places sure do charge enough extra for it.

[waffleinajar]

Not stantardized, plain leaf

[witchdr11]

If you are smoking 20x and its not getting you there than its probably not 20x. Is it purple sticky salvia>? IMO that is garbage, I get plain leaf that hits me harder than their 20x.

I get more out of smoking my own plant anyway. I take care of her, she takes care of me All of the experiences I had prior to gowing my own plant pale in comparison to the deeper understanding I have found in communing with my own plants

Quids are quite alot of work and often very mild.

[waffleinajar]

Today Im just gonna try to smoke as much of it as quik as I can. If I still get nothing then I'll probably just flush it or sell it so somebody whose desperate.