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| Jungle Spice: Mystery Alkaloids of Mimosa Root Bark Ask and ye shall recieve... This is a work in progress over at the DMT-Nexus. Several members here have expressed interest, so I'm putting it up the current draft here for the Topiates to enjoy. It's gradually growing, and will probably be done in a few weeks (around Spring break), but I'll be posting new material as I put it together on the copy hosted at DMT-Nexus (link below). Once it's done, I can re-post here. "Jungle Spice" - Mystery Alkaloids of Mimosa Root Bark Synonyms - Jungle DMT, red spice, red DMT, dark spice, dark DMT, etc. (Alright, this post will be under construction for awhile as I sort through the rest of the information that's out there and get this stuff written.) (The wikiscipt is having trouble with links that have "MHRB" in the address) So just what is Jungle spice? Jungle spice is one of many names that has been applied to a particularly intriguing non-DMT alkaloid fraction which can be isolated from at least much of the commercially available Mimosa rootbark (See Botanical Confustication). In the most general terms, it is the alkaloid fraction obtained from the aqueous basic phase of an extraction by pulling with xylene or toluene after DMT ceases to be pulled by an aliphatic hydrocarbon solvent (naphtha, heptane, etc.). This product will almost always contain some degree of N,N-DMT; some extractors choose to remove the DMT in a hot naphtha wash to obtain a pure "jungle" experience, while others use the jungle/DMT mixture as it is. There is a great deal of ambiguity surrounding jungle spice, owing to a wide array of factors. First and foremost, there appears to be a great diversity of compounds which can be isolated by extracting the aqueous basic phase with xylene or toluene. What compounds are actually isolated depends on some several of the following factors: minimum pH, maximum temperature and duration spent at this temperature, maximum pH and duration spent at this pH, and whether a fan is applied in the evaporation of solvent. On top of that, there's strong indications that some or all of the isolated compounds oxidize and change activity based on duration of time the material is allowed to sit at environmental conditions after extraction. And as if those things weren't enough, we also have to account for the fact that it's essentially impossible to know exactly what species of Mimosa the extracted rootbark came from. About all that is certain about it at this point is that it isn't N,N-DMT. There has been a lot of speculation going around that this compound may be yuremamine, the novel phytoindole isolated from Mimosa tenuiflora and characterized in 2005. Looking at the evidence this appears to be exceedingly unlikely, based on yuremamine's known instability to acid, apparent instability to base, and speculated instability to heat. It certainly cannot be ruled out completely at this point, but there remains a substantial body of evidence against it. Until a GCMS of jungle spice emerges with a molecular ion at 477.1 m/z, I think it's safe to assume that yuremamine is not the red alkaloid that has been isolated by home extractors. That said, I hope that the ensuing analysis can shed some light on the subject. Table of Contents I. Diversity of the Extracted Compounds - I.1 Red/Brown Crystlline Goos - I.2 Tan Waxes - I.3 Yellow Oils - I.4 "Kokusaginine" II. Experiences - II.1 Experiences Smoking the Red Crystalline Goo - II.2 Experiences Smoking Tan Waxes - II.3 Experiences Smoking Yellow Oils III. Isolation Techniques - III.1 Critical Switch's Tek - III.2 Implant's Isolation of "Kokusaginine" - III.3 Entheogenist's Jungle Tek I. Diversity of the Extracted Compounds Probably the biggest issue complicating the issue of jungle spice is the sheer diversity of compounds that can be extracted using roughly the same method. Based solely on physical properties, we can classify three distinct types of material that have been extracted as the endproduct from a xylene/toluene pull. When we consider the reported pharmacological activity of these materials in human subjects, the picture becomes much more comlicated; this issue will be dealt with subsequently. I.1 Red/Brown Crystalline Goo ![]() ![]() Figure 1. Red/brown jungle spice goo from Critical Switch Tek (left), another specimen (right) "After doing two pulls with naphtha I did two pulls with toluene, evaporated the toluene, and washed the solids with naphtha which made them dark red." Entheogenist "Could you describe the material? My friend's has the consistency of a soft crayon and is brick red." Noman "The junglespice I got is just like a peice of a red crayola crayon. After evapping it looked like crystals on the dish, but when scraped up with razor blade it all stuck together to make this waxy homogenous stuff. It has a strong smell of indole when burnt, but otherwise it has a similar smell to DMT, but with a fruity kind of a smell." QuantumBrujo "Swim succeeded in pulling the red spice. Its a dark , deep crimson color , almost the color of dried blood." Spicemeister The reddish brown crystalline goo that one can find pictures of floating around the internet are what I tend to think of as jungle spice, but washing this goo can yield a surprising diversity of products. As the above quotes indicate, washing the dark gunk with naphtha yields a red solid which is insoluble in the naphtha (Figre 1). This red material has been isolated both by straight-to-base extraction (Noman's) and by acid/base extraction (Marsofold's tek). The crude extraction is invariably an impure mixture. In most cases, the crude xylene pull from the basified aqueous phase is a bright yellow color; the red pigment cannot be seen until the solvent is evaporated. When the DMT is removed from the crude extract by a warm wash in an aliphatic hydrocarbon (naphtha, haptane, etc.), many extractors report that the recovered DMT crystals remain stained yellow. It is this yellow fraction that is soluble in warm naphtha that I identify as the yellow oil component of jungle spice (see Yellow Oils). It is important to note that some people obtain an explicitly brown goo from the xylene pull, with no real indication of red coloration whatsoever (Figure 2). Although they may appear appear similar on initial inspection to the crude red/brown goo, crude extracts which are exclusively brown appear to contain a different active principle, totally distinct from the red material. The lighter of the two tan waxy specimens (Figure 3) is the final product that was obtained from Figure 2 after the goo was washed with hot naphtha. I.2 Tan Waxes ![]() ![]() Figure 3. A couple of tan waxy specimens. "[A] xylene pull of a basified acidic extract of this material yields a crystalline slightly orange waxy substance that smells of tryptamines and glows orange under a blacklight." Archaea "[E]nded up with tan waxy non oily stuff that is stronger than hell (10-20 mg) and terrifying. It's not just residual DMT, its too strong for that." Noman The name and the pictures say it all. This fraction is a very waxy solid, with coloration ranging from a light yellow/orange to a much darker brown. The exact color of this fraction appears to be highly variable from extraction to extraction. It is obtained in essentially the same way as the red material above; an aqueous hydroxide solution containing mimosa alkaloids is extracted with volumes of naphtha until no more N,N-DMT is pulled. The spent solution is then extracted with a few volumes of xylene or toluene to obtain a product varying from light yellow to dark brown. Washing this crude material with hot naphtha yields a waxy orange solid. As far as I know, this material has never been isolated from a straight-to-base extraction. It's isolation has also been positively correlated with doing heated naphtha pulls to remove the spice prior to diong the aromatic pull, but it's not clear at this point whether this is simply coincidental. Again, we'll run into some further confusion when we look at the reported pharmacological activity of this isolate, indicating that there may be more than one compound comprising this fraction. Specifically, this is the fraction of jungle spice which is most frequently reported to change activity over time, indicating some chemical reaction (presumably ocidation) is occuring. I.3 Yellow Oils Figure 4. Two samples of DMT containing significant yellow impurities, courtesy of Erowid.org "The yuremamine which was evaporated out of the filtered xylene defat of the powdered root bark was a yellow creamy color prior to purification, and a translucent orange-colored almost oily residue which would not dry to a hard substance." Lycaeum Member "It's yellowish. Even a yellow crystal. Smells the same as dmt with a musty overtone." Heyoka "After two recrystallizations on the N-N that came out with [the jungle spice], swim tells me it is irretrevably stained yellow and resembles egg yolk." Spicemeister This is by far the most ambigous fraction that comes out of the xylene/toluene pull. Some of the yellow oils that have been isolated from Mimosa have been speculated to be plant fats and oils; another fraction of yellow oil is suspected of being an oxidation product of DMT. To further complicate the issue, it's very difficult to isolate the yellow oil on its own; in addition to being soluble in xylene and toluene, it is also quite soluble in hot naphtha. This is evidenced by the fact that many people doing otherwise normal extractions report obtaining a yellow-colored product when the naphtha pulls are done heated. These yellow crytals are usually reported to be qualitatively better in terms of effects than pure DMT. Also, when washing the crude jungle spice extract with warm naphtha, many extractors report that any N,N-DMT they recover from this process is strongly yellow-colored. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find any experience reports using the yellow spice isolated from the darker jungle spice, so there's absolutely no evidence for claiming that these two yellow oils are in fact the same substance, although they very well could be. Investigating the possiblity of the yellow oil being DMT N-Oxide, I found a 2005 paper reporting its isolation from a methanol extract of Acacia confusa, but it contained no description of the physically observable characteristics of the compound (such as color), only the measured NMR data. Looking at the Radio897's GCMS of a crude xylene pull of jungle spice reveals a peak at 205.1 m/z, which corresponds to the expected molecular ion of DMT N-Oxide, so it seems like a pretty good bet that this chemical is generated as a sideproduct of the extraction process, most likely in the aqueous basic phase. It may exist in the bark as a trace component (there is a barely perceptible peak at 205.1 m/z in the Vepsäläinen paper reporting the characterization of yuremamine), though it's possible this trace peak was an artifact of the isolation process as well. It's also possible that the sample analyzed in the paper was from a different subspecies, or even an entirely different Mimosa species than is typically purchased as rootbark (see Botanical Confustication I.4 "Kokusaginine" When browsing around threads discussing jungle spice, inevitably you start running across people claiming that kokusaginine is likely the chemical responsible for Jurema's reported oral activty. Generally these posters cite the 1999 Entheoegen Review article where Jonathan Ott and K Trout are asked their opinions on the matter. Unfortunately, these people apparently read no further than the second paragraph before leaping to this completely unfounded conclusion. 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Based on physical descriptions as well as reports of its effects, the compound that people have called kokusaginine is a variety or the tan waxy specimens, usually described as being very hard. Particularly with this fraction, it's been reported that as the chemical ages, the stuporous effects dissipate, and are replaced by a fully psychedelic activity profile. For an account of the isolation of this fraction, see Implant's Isolation of "Kokusaginine" II. Experiences II.1 Experiences Smoking the Red Crystalline Goo Quote:
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There do not appear to be any experience reports by folks who've extracted and purified a yellow oil. However, due to the solubility of one (or more) of the yellow oils in hot naphtha, DMT crystals are often isolated with a distinct yellow discoloration (Figure 4), presumably because they contain the yellow oil in addition to N,N-DMT. There are experience reports with this substance, which I'll put here whenever I get around to it. III. Isolation Techniques III.1 Critical Switch's Tek The very first tek known to describe the isolation of jungle spice was posted on Vovin's boards by Critical Switch. These boards have since gone down, and as far as I know the discussion of jungle spice that took place there has been lost. Fortunately Marsofold still had the tek. As he notes, it is needlessly lengthy, so I'll paraphrase a bit throughout. It also doesn't report pH at any point through the process, making it difficult to duplicate precisely. Further, it seems to be generally agreed upon that a more effective way to obtain jungle spice is to extract all the DMT with naphtha as usual, then do a xylene pull; this tek is included for historical relevance. Quote:
III.2 Implant's Isolation of "Kokusaginine" As discussed above, this fraction is almost certainly not kukosaginine, but it is psychoactive. This isolation process is fairly unique in its use of a binary extraction solvent. From the available evidence, it seems reasonable to assume that this heptane/diethyl ether solvent is pulling a fraction which is also pulled by xylene or toluene. Quote:
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Molecules ![]() Yuremamine ![]() A likely breakdown product of yuremamine, would have molecular ion at 350.1 m/z ![]() DMT N-Oxide Mass Spec Data ![]() Radio897's MS of an unpurified xylene pull, extraction process unknown. ![]() ![]() MS of DMT reference standard (left) and Brazilian M hostilis A/B extracted at pH 1 (right) (from Mambo Pachano's Entheogen Review Article - See Trout's Notes) ![]() GCMS of Yuremamine (from Isolation and Characterization of Yuremamine) On the DMT Nexus Dark DMT - The Other Alkaloid Dark DMT So I extracted the red DMT Dark DMT Extraction Red Spice Experiences Doing Xylol Extraction Yellow Oil = DMT N-Oxide? On Ayahuasca Forums Yuremamine - Solving the Mystery of Jurema Preta Hummingbird's Brew On the Lycaeum Forums Dark DMT On Drugs-Forum The Other Alkaloid in Mimosa hostilis Jungle DMT? On the Nook Extraction of an alternate alkaloid from Mimosa On Entheogen.com Forums MHRB H2O/MeOH Extract and TLC Red Spice? DMT Melted? Orange Spice? Mimosa bark active without ayahuascha[sic]? MHRB, Yellow Oil, and DMT N-Oxide On the Corroboree Is it real M hostilis? Jonathan Ott Articles Mimosa Active Without MAOI? Pharmahuasca, Anahuasca and Vinho da Jurema; Human Pharmacology of Oral DMT Plus Harmine From Trout's Notes A-5: Ayahuasca - alkaloids, plants, and analogs Jurema --Reported Chemistry --Isolation --Preparation --Synonyms and their Descriptions --Other Mimosa Species Pictures ![]() A Red/Brown Crystalline Sludge Data - GCMS ![]() ![]() Radio897's GCMS of an unpurified xylene pull, extraction process unknown. Data - TLC ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Dozuki's TLC Analysis
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| I should also mention that if anyone has any idea how to get ahold of Radio897, or has any idea what sort of extraction process he was using, it would help greatly to put the significance of his GCMS into perscpective.
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This xylene almost always pulls some DMT that the naphtha missed along with the jungle spice. You can smoke this crude jungle spice to get a mix of DMT and jungle spice compounds, or you can use warm naphtha two purify it into two fractions, washing the DMT and yellow oil from the darker portion of the jungle spice.
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| I.5 General Comments on "Colored Spice" "So I'm wondering... The old-school heads at the festivals keep talking about RED or ORANGE DMT from back in the day, and how strong it was. I'm wondering if that old-school spice was actually just a mixture of the 2 alkaloids in one product... because as far as I can tell, pure DMT is white or clear crystals." "I have had the orange DMT that Terrence and old heads speak of. It is DIFFERENT than the snow white DMT people extract these days. People will say things like "it's impure, clean it" blah blah blah. No. They've never had it then. It is the most ridiculously potent DMT SWIM has ever smoked." "Since 1999 there has been the reds also called purple by some, yellow, orange, and white spices available at music festivals, and have been kept underground till recently. At the last SCI shows in Red Rocks CO there was all colors available, being offered quite openly.You could smell that sweet plastic smell every few 1000 feet while walking the lot." There has been a great deal of discussion and speculation on "yellow DMT" and "orange DMT", some of which has been reported to be subjectively different than ordinary white DMT. This turns out to be a rather thorny issue. There are several unrelated factors that can lead to yellow or orange spice; sometimes these colored spices are reported to be more potent than DMT, sometimes less potent. The discussion will be organized based on the reported origins of the colored crystals. I.5.A Old Spice "The yellow oils oxidize to a ruddy-orange colour when stored at room temp for a month in a metal container. This is not good to let go any further, it's degrading as teh colour goes yellow to orange ... I have thought that this 'aged' yellow spice, that becomes 'orange' looks like what the T.McKenna’s spice must have been; a reddish and smelly mix oils and clear crystals... But beware! it keeps oxidizing and definately goes 'off'. It becomes blackish-rusty-red, smells different - when this happens it does not launch you... you get dragged behind the hyperspace shuttle... Bleah !" El Ka Bong Probably the simplest form of colored DMT comes samples that were originally pure white spice. As the samples age, they turn orange and waxy over time. There seems to be substantial disagreement over the amount of time necessary for this process to occur. Some people report a change in color become noticeable after several weeks to a month, while others have several month old samples that are still without discoloration. Anecdotal evidence indicates that higher temperatures speed this degradation process. It is unknown whether evironmental factors such as air moisture may play a role in the rate of degradation. It is likely that the amount of impurities initially present in the material plays an influential role as well. Since this orange spice forms from fresh spice when exposed to environmental conditions for a long period of time, it is tempting to label it a simple oxidation product. Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple. We've already fingered a yellow oil as the most likely candidate for the simplest DMT oxidation product (DMT N-oxide). The orange color must come from something else, since a yellow oxidation product couldn't turn a translucent crystal orange. The simplest explanation that fits the available information is the following: When stored at room temperature for a long period of time, a small amount of the DMT begins oxidizing to DMT N-oxide. This small amount of DMT N-oxide is now also being exposed to environmental conditions for a long period of time, and begins breaking down into it's degradation product, which is either deep orange or red. This would mean that starting with a crystal that contains a trace amount of DMT N-oxide may be one of the factors that leads to a more rapid orange-ing of the spice. This explanation is consistent with observations that have been made on yellow oil. On the other hand, it's possible that the orange-red degradation product forms independent of the yellow oil; there isn't enough information to draw any hard conclusions (anyone want to run some TLCs of your old orange spice?). But to the people who are smoking it, the more important issue is what it does, not what it's made of. Combing through the scraps of anecdotal reports on the issue, there seems to be a general consensus: As the spice turns orange over time, it begins to be qualitatively "different" in terms of the experience (but not any less potent), then gradually the sample loses potency and becomes qualitatively unpleasant. Reports of more drastic changes in the appearance and effects of DMT due to exposure to higher temperatures is covered in Section II.5.A. I.5.B Evaporated Spice Another very common form of colored spice results from people evaporating their nonpolar solvent instead of freeze-precipitating. The yellow contained in spice that has been extracted with heptane or naphtha and collected by evaporation appears to just be trace impurities, most likely fats from the rootbark. It is reportedly harsher to smoke, but roughly the same potency as white spice. This yellow fraction (presumed to be plant fats and miscellaneous impurities) can be removed from the spice by recrystallization. There doesn't seem to be any indication that this sort of yellow spice has any biologically active chemicals besides DMT. It appears that there is another form of yellow spice that can be obtained by evaporating off the solvent, depending on the evaporating conditions. People report a much yellower oily product when the solvent is evaporated with a fan, particularly with warmer temperatures. Others have obtained yellow crystals by melting off-white spice in an attempt to do a "solventless recrystallization". Yellow crystals obtained in this fashion are reported to be qualitatively different than plain spice, and more potent. Based on this information, it sounds like these methods are producing DMT which contains the yellow oil fraction I believe to be DMT N-oxide. Delafonze19 has reported happening on a method for reliably converting white DMT to the potent yellow oil (see Delafonze19's Preparation of Yellow Spice Oil. I.5.C Alternate Solvents Heptane and naphtha have not always been the solvents of choice in DMT extraction. Some of the older teks recommend ether, or dichloromethane (DCM). Xylene and toluene are also effective extraction solvents for pulling DMT, though we've seen they're less specific and pull other fractions. All have been reported to yield yellow or even orange spice. Considering the differences in the solvents, it will be easiest to consider them seperately. Xylene and Toluene Both of these solvents are known to pull a mixture of DMT and "jungle spice" when used on a nonpolar soup that's been exhausted od spice with an aliphatic hydrocarbon. It's therefor reasonable that they could be used as the primary extraction solvent to pull a similar mixture, but containing a great deal more DMT. One experimentor did just that: Quote:
Ether There have periodically been reports of using ether, or a binary solvent of ether/heptane (mostly ether), as an extraction solvent. This invariably leads to a product with yellow discoloration. Since the ether is evaporated to yield spice, it's not necessarily surprising that the product is yellow; we might expect some of the plant fats or other impurities to extract into the ether. On the other hand, ether/heptane (8:1) is known to extract a brown waxy compound as well as DMT, so it's quite possible that some of the yellow color in ether extracts is one of the "jungle spice" compounds. Based on reports of ether extracts smelling "strongly floral", it's also very possible that the ether is extracting some skatole (see GC/MS Analysis). Dichloromethane This solvent is recommended by some of the older teks. Recent literature suggests that using DCM as a defatting solvent most likely allows for the formation of N-chloromethyltryptamine, a chemical of unknown pharmacology. It is unknown whether this compound might form when using DCM as an extraction solvent. Orange crystals that result from the use of DCM could have their for the same reason as the orange crystals extracted by xylene. As always, there's also the possibility that the coloration results from a pigment pulled by the DCM. But it's also possible that spice extracted with DCM could contain some quantity of N-chloromethyltryptamine. According to a 2008 publication, "DMT was found to be reactive towards dichloromethane, either during work-up or long term storage therein, which led to the formation of the quaternary ammonium salt N-chloromethyl-DMT chloride" (Brandt et al). I was unable to turn up any reports on the qualitative effects of orange spice extracted with DCM. I.5.D Odds and Ends One last possible source of orange DMT could be the use of plant materials other than Mimosa root bark. For example many species of Acacia can yield an orange spice. While some of this color could indeed be plant fats, Acacias have been shown to have a richly diverse chemistry, so it seems entirely possible that some of this color could potentially come from an alkaloid fraction in the bark. A few other comments on colored spices: I have seen two unrelated references to a "purple spice". One of these was accompanied by a blurry photograph which showed spice which was unmistakeably purple. I cannot concieve of this coloration having come from any of the compounds discussed above. Until some experiences come in with this material, I'd say it's probably best to recrystallize any such material you happen to run across. I have also seen infequent references to "green spice". This is a mystery that I think I can put solidly to rest. It is only known to have been isolated by evaporating the solvent to collect the spice; further, it's only been reported in cases where the extractor used unsavory brands of naphtha (like Sunnyside). In at least one of these circumstances, the extractor evaporated a clean sample of their nonpolar solvent and discovered that it left a blue residue. Thus it appears that the green spice comes from yellow spice plus an blue non-volatile solvent-additive: yellow + blue = green. Long story short: avoid "green spice" like the plague.
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