Mescaline Extraction Questions

[anthonee]

A kid I know named SWIM will be trying to extract Mescaline today, but SWIM has a few questions :

He will be starting out with 250grams of powdered cactus as his first time, just to get an idea of how it will all work out.

Question is, how much lye should he use for 250 grams of cactus?
And also, how much lye should he mix and how much water should he start out with? Should he start with distilled water or regular tap water?

Sorry for all the questions, he just didn't see the amounts used in the tek he will be following, which is this one : http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescalin...ction-tek.html (Mescaline Extraction Tek)

Again, thanks for all the help, as I've found a new home in mycotopia!

[AndyLandy420]

in my experience no more then 170g cacti powder should be processed per gallon jug. in each gallon jug mix 170g cacti powder, 2 liters water, 200g lye, a good rule of thumb is 100g lye per liter of water.

[anthonee]

According to your calculations, how much Xylene should SWIM be using?

[Caljet666]

You wont need much. You really only want enough so you can easily remove 90%+ of what is in there. A few centimeters high will do it.

Always use distilled water in extractions.

[anthonee]

Thanks everyone for all your very kind help, my friend named SWIM wanted you all to know this.

Another question arose though. SWIM will be moving on with the rest of his extraction process today, but was wondering;

The tek says

Salting
Now you want to mix your acid water in order to dilute it to the proper strength you want. Be very careful not to breath the vapors that come out of the bottle when you open it. HCL comes very strong and it will burn you.

You want to add approximately 4-8 drops of HCL acid to 1.5 cups of water. Slowly add this acid water to the xylene while gently swirling the liquids around in the jar. Add just enough to make a half inch or so layer beneath the xylene.

SWIM decided to start out with 150 grams of powder, 100 grams lye, 1.5 liters of water, 1.5 cups xylene.
Are the above calculations a great starting point?

According to those figures, how much HCL Acid and water should he use in his salting step?


Also, he had another question. After all is said and done, how does he go about doing his second pull? Does he add more Xylene to the original mixture, then shake, then wait again? How long does he wait? Does he add more water/lye first, then Xylene? Should he shake it up?

Sorry, SWIM just really wants to make sure all goes well, and he likes to plan ahead before working on things.

Thank you for all your help 'topia!

Good vibes,
~nee

[duaut]

DO not use more than 2.5ml of HCL per 1gallon of H2O

that tek calls for too much HCL, SWIM's mescaline will be nasty chocolate brown.

Gas with HCL for a pure white product. search for Tregar's posts on HCL gassing, and MEK rextal

as to your ? about xylene, just do the same as the first pull, except add a little NAOH before each new NP pull. not complicated, tek explains it clearly.
you are supposed to wait 2 days, but SWIY only waits 8hrs and extracts 90% of the xylene from the green slime, SWIY does 4 xylene pulls then gases for the sweet white xtals.

[anthonee]

Thank you duaut for the reply!

My good friend SWIM thanks you as well. He tells me he will be posting pictures of this experiment just as a reference for everyone else, and perhaps even get lots of great help from everyone here as he has been doing.

SWIM will wait a couple hours on each pull, then on his last pull he will wait a couple days, maybe even a week. Would there be a benefit to waiting that long for a pull? He sure hopes so.

Thanks everyone at topia, SWIM couldn't have gotten this far without this great place. SWIM is amazed at how much information he could find using the internet, on any given subject.

As always, good vibes
~nee

[anthonee]

Good news friends!

My friend named SWIM has sucessfully done this extraction and came out with slighty peach/tan mescaline!

From his first trial run, he used 100g of powdered cactus, and now has about 700mg of the substance from 2 pulls. SWIM tells me he has 1 more pull, evaporating as we speak. SWIM tells me when that evap is done, he will do one more pull, letting it sit for a couple of days.

SWIM is very excited and pleased at how easy this was. He tells me he will try Mescaline for the first time very very soon.

SWIM wanted to thank you all for your help. Even though SWIM is fairly new to this subject & to mycotopia, he feels like this place is very very friendly, and loves to read the wealth of information about everything here.

SWIM will try to contribute as much as he can to this community, as he is very thankful.

As always, good vibes
~nee

[Nunyabiz]

Thats excellent.. Thats more than Foafs yield per pull.. Only got 100-200mgs at a time..

Did your friend use distilled water..? Thats the only thing Foaf forgot..

Would that make the difference?

[anthonee]

Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

Thats excellent.. Thats more than Foafs yield per pull.. Only got 100-200mgs at a time..

Did your friend use distilled water..? Thats the only thing Foaf forgot..

Would that make the difference?

SWIM does not know if distilled water makes a difference, but he followed Caljet's recommendation of always using distilled. The first pull yielded close to ~300mg, the second pull yielding almost the same, but a little bit more.

SWIM does have a question though. Since this will be SWIM's first time ever trying Mescaline, how should he consume it? This is not his area of expertise, he's read very very many threads and lots of experiences, but he does not know the best way to consume it.

SWIM is thinking of taking a 300mg dose of tan/yellow mescaline over a period of time, taking 100mg each 45 minutes until all 300mgs are consumed. He does not know how to consume it though. Does he just simply add the powder to a cup of water and drink?

SWIM would like everyone's input. It will be his first ever Mescaline experience, and he very much respects Cacti. He is thinking of going to his mountain getaway, and share his mescaline experience with the great outdoors, the birds, squirrels, the sun, the clouds...

Would this be a good idea? Is the dosage too high?

Once again, he thanks everyone here. Everyone is so helpful and there is no 'stupid' questions. The only questions that are 'stupid' are the ones you don't ask! Knowledge is power, definately...

As always, good vibes
~nee

[Nunyabiz]

Dude.. Take at least the 300mg dose all at once.. Its mellow.. Comes on very slow.. Good for a first time.. For a "crisp" one 400+ would suffice..

The best way to down the dust is in a parachute..
Get a single piece of toilet paper or other similar material.
Lay it out flat.
Carefully place your stuff in the center of the TP square.
Fold it in half and the whole aim is to get the stuff in a small tissue ball. Twist the extra tissue and cut off any extra.. This is now a pill/parachute.. Down it with some water or whatever it is that you drink.. Beer works good..

Let me know if you get it.. If not ill get some pics step by step for ya..

[anthonee]

SWIM knows the 'parachute' technique. Thank you Nunyabiz. SWIM will use this technique to down the beautiful earthy powder.

You suggested SWIM to down all 300mgs at once. The reason behind SWIM's idea of 100mg each 45 minutes was because SWIM read there is some nausea involved with Mescaline. Since SWIM's Mescaline isn't pure pure white, he was just worried about the nausea. SWIM doesn't have a weak stomach though, he was just being cautious.

SWIM might possibly take the 300mgs at once, then take another 100mgs 45 minutes later. SWIM wants to have a great experience, and he thinks he can handle the dosage as he has done countless other journeys with the great Mushroom.

Would this be a good idea? Should SWIM take some sort of nausea reliever before dosing? SWIM does plan to fast the day before to prep his stomach...

Once again, thank you Nunyabiz and everyone for your help. SWIM can not express how relieving it is to have so much help from such nice FOAF's...he is very very grateful.

SWIM will be posting his extraction + results + trip report soon. He feels he should share everything with this community as much as it has shared with him. He took pictures of the whole process just in case anything went wrong.

Thank you all!

As always, good vibes
~nee

[Nunyabiz]

300 mg wont give much nausea if any at all.. Swim took 300mg and drank beer all night.. went from about 8pm - 5am. Plus there was 7 g of mushies in the mix. Swim didnt break those out until 4 hours after the mesc kicked in. Chewed up a few here and there.. The mesc masked the effect of the mushies..

[Caljet666]

All good advice Nunyabiz. Swim would like to add that he prefers swallowing caps than parachutes. He nearly always chokes on them bastards.