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| | #4 (permalink) |
| searching Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 225
| No. Pretty sure you're gonna need to know some people in high places (no pun intended), I believe you'll need federal permits for nearly every ingredient - at least the tartrate. And yes, chemistry knowledge, cleanlieness and some good luck are a must ![]()
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| Hydro by day,Myc by night Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,666
| LMAO. I checked that out a long time ago. There is no step by step process that anyone like me or you could understand without going through a LOT of school. Serious chemistry and if you don't know exactly what you're doing ears and limbs will start falling off. People that make cid do have to have some sort of clearance to get ahold of certain items. Knowing a doctor is easy enough. I have heard that Sodium Pentothal is needed, but I am not a chemist and I heard that from people that supposedly know how. I had my wisdom teeth pulled by my uncle who is a dentist) and he asked me if I wanted to get really fucked up, I said yeah. He gave me Sodium Pentothal... BEST DAY OF MY LIFE! OMG I loved that shit. I asked him to leave a wisdom tooth in so I could come back tomorrow. Usually you don't get adminesterd that for that. (Truth serum)
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| Hydro by day,Myc by night Join Date: Mar 2008
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| You can make "LSD" from morning glory seeds or hawaiian woodrose... True LSD is not quite that simple (in my understanding, but I could very well be wrong). Pretty sure that all of the bomb-ass cid I took was not taken from morning glories. I honestly believe that it is a very spiritual experience and deepens the mind. I believe that there are things out there like paintings that others will never know what I know(except people that have been where I have been). Morning glories will trip you, that is not what I had. The stuff that I had, I think would be very hard to produce. If I am wrong, please enlighten me. I would love to learn how I could have the life experiences that I have had. I have not tripped cid in maybe 8 years. I would never take back those experiences. I feel bad for people that have not had my experiences. If you have a recipe please PM me.. Omg that would be the coolest shit. Thanks all!
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| Mycophage Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 132
| Just thought I'd point out that whatever "recipe" you use you're still going to need some ergot product. That is unless someone's come up with a way to make use of a ton of HBWS. Like I said, just a thought. -kid
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| | #11 (permalink) |
| Former Member Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 21
| taking the risks for minor amounts is beyond foolish. this being said yes you do need ergot-based amides. and unless youve got alot of cash you will have to extract them your self . for that alone to get a worthwhile amount you will need in excess of 150 gallons of solvent. good luck finding it ad not getting listed then kicked in. leave it to the pros and be thankful they are out there somewhere . . . . . . |
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| Hydro by day,Myc by night Join Date: Mar 2008
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| ****taking the risks for minor amounts is beyond foolish. this being said yes you do need ergot-based amides. and unless youve got alot of cash you will have to extract them your self . for that alone to get a worthwhile amount you will need in excess of 150 gallons of solvent. good luck finding it ad not getting listed then kicked in. leave it to the pros and be thankful they are out there somewhere . . . . . . Have to agree. The last sentence especially.
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| | #14 (permalink) |
| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
Posts: 36,122
| either be helpful or STFU and move along. sarcasm, condescending snottiness not appreciated.
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| | #17 (permalink) |
| Cosmopolitan Join Date: Aug 2007
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| The chemicals used to make LSD can be highly toxic or poisonous, if used improperly they can cause disease, cancer, or immediate death. Even the most simple of chemical reactions are not to be taken lightly or unprofessionally. Go to a college or some other type of professional laboratory and ask if they will show you around; seven times out of ten they will give you a tour. Look over their equipment; notice the cleanliness of even the floor. Look at the chemists themselves; see how serious and professional they act. This is how your laboratory should look. Before commencing any procedures in organic chemistry, you must become familiar with the safety, hazards, apparatus and methods used. Those of you who think "I don't need to learn all this preliminary bullshit, because the formula is in easy to understand language" are wrong — dead wrong. Ethyl ether, as an example, has more BTU's than dynamite and is much more easily ignited.It is the duty of any chemist, amateur or professional, to learn these properties. Know what you're dealing with at all times, under all conditions. And no you don't need 150 gallons of solvent, nor does your LSA have to be derived from ergot.
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| 21st Century Toltec Join Date: Jan 2008
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| Resident Evil Join Date: Jan 1970
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| Those selected by whatever forces decide such matters. There is more than one road to that destination. Passed down knowledge or plodding down what is surely a well beaten path those that are meant to bee surely will.
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| | #22 (permalink) |
| Chemist Join Date: Oct 2007
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| I'm a chemist and I wont even try to make it, too risky. But if your a good enough chemist and are willing to take the chance on going to jail for a long time, here is a recipie that I found I believe on a forum here. This is not my recipe and do not take any credit for it.
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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no one needs a lecture . help or shut the fuck up.
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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| | #27 (permalink) |
| Former Member Join Date: Apr 2008
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| i wasnt trying to be unhelpfull. myself and im sure may others have had lofty dreams of the manufacture of this and many other interesting compounds. just giving a reality check. as to the comment of "who will take the reigns of of said manufacture when the ones responsible are gone" they choose wisely and also hold the belief that what they are doing is very important to societal evolution(which with i agree strongly!!). basically there are many ways to get to your desired results all take alot of knowledge and effort. oh and owsleys wife was a chemist i believe. hmmmm maybe i should marry a chemist ![]() |
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| Admin Join Date: Feb 2001
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we aren't their parents either. no need to harsh his gig. pissing on another guy's parade is poor form.
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| | #29 (permalink) |
| Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2007
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| When Owsley taught himself, the ingredients for making it could be purchased legally.. Nowadays, one would need to start with much more basic ingredients and they would need to make many of the things he could just buy.. Making LSD from various organic LSA sources, requires purifying the lysergamides otherwise you'll get a bunch of nasty shit in your end product.. One of the rules of chemistry GIGO= Garbage IN, Garbage Out. Meaning the purer your precursors, the purer your final product. Explaining how to make LSD is not something I'd even try to do in this thread. There are many resources, to study online, including the patents, however, to even understand half of what is being described requires an in depth knowledge of chemistry and lab techniques. That being said, it would also require quite a bit of connections and money to equip a lab and to find the precursors needed. An easy 10-20K would need to be spent to even begin such an endeavor, and methinks if someone were going to invest that kind of money, they would want to definitely know a lot more than what one can find on the internet. My suggestion would be to stick with some of the easier, natural psychedelics, and in the mean time, do lots of studying, or perhaps take some college courses, before trying anything along the lines of LSD synthesis.. Not to be discouraging, but I hope this gives you some basis of the difficulty.. Hope this helps! BTW, thanks for the Uncle Fester text, it gives a really good basis for understanding what is involved. |
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| narf Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 475
| thanks wildburr! interesting read. i will never try to synthesize LSD, as my undegraduate education in ochem and biochem was not nearly sufficient to undertake such an operation, but i am liking reading it anyhow. ![]()
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| | #31 (permalink) |
| Mycophiliac Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Can Be Done Fairly Easily... I would guess one could with under 1k of cash..but this would involve growing a certain fungus in the right conditions. Im not going to go in detail, but it can be done without knowing exactly how the reactions work. What i mean is , if you can follow directions carefully,then Its easy. All I have to say is "Garbrecht Synthesis", look it up. Buy Otto's book ,read it twice and you should be fine. ![]() |
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| GrowGrowGrow Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 113
| I read some year ago.. mmm you can make it with beer... but not any beer... it have to be one brand... it's FOSTER beer.. made with Centeno(Spanish) .... and you have to cook this beer like 2 days... and then u will have the substance (ERGOTAMINE) then you go with que chemestry.. amoniac etc... etc... with special Infrared light... and some shits... it's difficult and it takes time... it's really danger... u can get crazy... blind... during the process... and die... plus.... itīs really really toxic... if u let it flow in the ambient killing a lot of species... u better grow mushrooms... and learn about the high..
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