Natural 5-MeO-DMT

[MindSpace67]

Holy BUFO TOADS Batman! LOL, anybody have any "friends" out there who have milked a Toad?

Seriously though, nature is providing us with nectar of the gods from these little critters

http://www.5meodmt.net/natural5meodmt.htm

MindSpace67

[hyphaenation]

I've nay licked the toad, but there is lots of Bufo information here...

Hit Search and then type in bufo. Happy licking.

[TVCasualty]

Well, venom of the gods is more accurate. It's a good thing they are not really very lickable looking since "toad licking" will get you a trip to the ER.

Gathering up the toad venom and drying it, and then smoking it is a different story. Most people familiar with toads know this, but I think it's important to mention for the benefit of those who aren't. I've hit a big bowl of it, and it came on faster than anything I could imagine (before I could exhale the hit). I hadn't smoked plain DMT before that so it was my first time for the instant rush that these molecules provide.

It was an experience, but I'm not really sure if it was a good one or not. It just was, and was intense but not visual. It was entirely a body buzz, and for a while it felt like an elephant was sitting on my head; heavy pressure but not painful.

I might do it again, but I'd prefer straight DMT. If I never did it again, that'd be ok with me too.

[Fizzurb]

a foaf has a bufo alvarius he's still kind of small. bout 3.5 inches from base to snout. has been milked a few times but with minimal results cuz not much venom was extracted. not that hard really to extract it. just pop the glands like pimples over a glass let it evap. scrape. smoke.


A question to anyone else out there who has one. What is the weight of a dose that will get you decently blasted? Basically foaf has done it a couple times with mild threshold effects? Thanks for the info. peace.

fizz

[feralronin]

Personally I find that using an animal that way wouldn't yield a good trip, at least not for me. I am dying to try DMT, but will do extraction from Mimosa. I guess its the animal lover in me, but I just would feel terrible about it.

[TVCasualty]

Originally Posted by Fizzurb

What is the weight of a dose that will get you decently blasted? Basically foaf has done it a couple times with mild threshold effects?

I'd say "more than last time." That's about as accurate as I ever got.

[slaphappyjacko]

Originally Posted by Fizzurb

A question to anyone else out there who has one. What is the weight of a dose that will get you decently blasted? Basically foaf has done it a couple times with mild threshold effects? Thanks for the info. peace.

fizz

it is not possible to say. Just as alkaloid content varies from plant to plant, it varies from toad to toad. It sounds like the toad you have is young. I wouldn't suspect that it is very potent (just a hunch. I could be wrong).

My only experience is with Bufo marinus, but it's venom was pretty potent when smoked. A blob about the size of a pea was sufficient. This toad measured ~6.5" nose to tail (smallish for a cane toad). Of course, 5MeO-DMT has only been reported in Colorado river toads, so these effects were bufotenin (which, unlike 5MeODMT, is scheduled).

according to the link above, the venom is up to 15% 5MeO-DMT. That is probably like the 2.4% (dry weight) san pedro that I have yet to see in the 10+ years I have been looking.

There are MUCH better (easier/humane) ways to get 5MeO-DMT. Since it is still legal,deleted, or extracted from a plant source. Just my $.02

[sangraal]

Originally Posted by Fizzurb

A question to anyone else out there who has one. What is the weight of a dose that will get you decently blasted? Basically foaf has done it a couple times with mild threshold effects? Thanks for the info. peace.

fizz

MeO in general, 10mg will send most people into hyperspace with the weight of an elephant holding down your physical body. Some can achieve the same at 5mg, it depends on your particular makeup...

Oh and Bufo tends to produce less venom while in captivity thus less spice in the evaporation. The same applies to most venomous creatures, even Terribilis, the "poison dart" frog.

Originally Posted by slaphappyjacko

There are MUCH better (easier/humane) ways to get 5MeO-DMT. Since it is still legal, I would prefer it from a reliable research chem place, or extracted from a plant source. Just my $.02

I'd go with extraction myself. Virola is a good candidate for MeO, which a couple of the sponsers carry in their shops. (Deleted)

[slaphappyjacko]

Originally Posted by sangraal

I'd go with extraction myself. Virola is a good candidate for MeO, which a couple of the sponsers carry in their shops. deleted .

The thread is "Natural 5-MeO-DMT," and I do think plant sources are the way to go if one is uncomfortable ordering sketchy (unnatural) chems. Of course, this assumes that one can at least cookbook through an xtraction TEK (most people can).

Originally Posted by sangraal

MeO in general, 10mg will send most people into hyperspace with the weight of an elephant holding down your physical body. Some can achieve the same at 5mg, it depends on your particular makeup...

IF the venom was 15% 5MeODMT, then:

[(10mg 5MeO)/.15]x(1g/1000mg)=.07g venom per 10mg dose 5MeO. This is "best" case scenario.

This seems VERY optimistic. If the venom is even close to that potent, I may just make a return to herpetology.

[sangraal]

Originally Posted by slaphappyjacko

IF the venom was 15% 5MeODMT, then:

[(10mg)/.15]x(1g/1000mg)=.07g per 10mg dose. This is "best" case scenario.

This seems VERY optimistic. If the venom is even close to that potent, I may just make a return to herpetology.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that 10mg of venom would carry some momentum spice! Sorry. I meant that 10mg of [extracted] MeO, already in crystaline form, would get the job done.

[spacecake]

No talking aboud rc's in this tread..else it's gonne be closed !!!

[slaphappyjacko]

Originally Posted by sangraal

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that 10mg of venom would carry some momentum spice! Sorry. I meant that 10mg of [extracted] MeO, already in crystaline form, would get the job done.

I didn't label my math properly. I understood what you meant.

I seriously doubt that .07g of venom would carry an effective dose of 5MeO. If it does...

[Shadowlord]

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

and for a while it felt like an elephant was sitting on my head; heavy pressure but not painful.

Is there 5 meo in MHRB?
The reason I ask is that I have never reX'd andy of the DMT I have extracted as I only had a little to work with, but all doses attempted came w/ a feeling of pressure around the head or chest or a feeling like someone was manipulating my hand.
I wonder if there is 5 meo in the yellow oils that I always seem to get in my extractions. ( Total of 225g so far, so not many )

[witchdr11]

MHRB is not a good source of 5 Meo in general.

[kompton]

IMO n,n, DMT is wayyyy better than meo anyway