Mescaline Duration

Mr. Clean · 07-08-08, 15:52

About how long do the effects of cacti such as T. Pachanoi or T. Pervuianus last? Is mescaline similar in duration to psilocybin? Does it last longer? I can't seem to find an answer anywhere..any and all input would be greatly appreciated!!

Irishlion · 07-08-08, 16:16

a good does of mescline will last you about 13 to 16 hours man and its be far greater than psil ever will be IMHO

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 13:07

13-16 hours..Woot!!

What do you mean by "far greater..?"

Shadowlord · 07-09-08, 13:29

I think I.L. is referring to the much longer duration. And I , personally, have had much more luck w/ cacti in tripping and getting visuals etc vs shrooms. But then everybody has their own reaction to each substance. I'm sure we could find a 100 Shroomers here who would say that shrooms are better.
For me, LSD and Mescaline/Cacti is a much better way to go. SHrooms sometimes just make me feel cold,hungover,and depressed w/ lots of yawning.
Never had a bad LSD or Cacti trip.

rocketman · 07-09-08, 13:47

12 hours is normal for a strong dose. i too never had a bad mescaline/cactus voyage

although 12 hours does include the come up which can take 3 hours.

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 13:58

Cool..I'm assuming cactus/mescaline feels somewhat similar to mushrooms or LSD, right? Or, should I be expecting something completely different..

I've heard mescaline is a much more spiritual trip than psilocybin, is this true?

seymorebunz · 07-09-08, 14:18

It's tough to compare Cacti vs. Shrooms.....they are both very unique in themselves.

Mescaline is strong and stays with you the whole trip, yet you are still very much aware of your surroundings. You will get a similar body high to mushrooms, yet unique in itself. The visuals are similar as well, yet very unique in themselves.....

spacecake · 07-09-08, 14:32

Lol.. hard to describe a drug experiance...that's why I love it !

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 14:40

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Originally Posted by spacecake

Lol.. hard to describe a drug experiance...

Heh, no doubt..I'm looking foward to trying

How much of a 2-foot San Pedro cactus would one need to eat to achieve the desired effects?

Irishlion · 07-09-08, 14:43

the whole thing

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishlion

the whole thing

Damn, really? I don't know how I'm gonna stomach all that!!

Shadowlord · 07-09-08, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

Damn, really? I don't know how I'm gonna stomach all that!!

That's why people make tea at the minimum. Some Purists out there might want to eat it but Tea is hard enough to stomach. Make tea or do an alcohol extrct. Since it sounds like you have fresh cactus I would suggest brewing the Tea.
Good Luck whatever you decide!

Irishlion · 07-09-08, 14:51

I would have to agree make tea from it and drink the tea add some lemon and honey and BAM your off the the races or as I like to call it "walking between the worlds"

seymorebunz · 07-09-08, 14:51

You could always use Hippie's rule of thumb and eat the length of your arm. Two feet should be a good safe start.

Quote from another thread;

Alcohol extraction is quick and easy. Cut them up into stars, dry, than to the blender, than put the powder in a container, pour in some grain alcohol such as Bacardi 101 or Everlear, shake the container a few times over 24 hours, pull the black liquid layer off the top of the container with a baster or similar, repeat this until the alcohol no longer turns black (several days, several pulls) Than dry out all the black liquid in a pyrex dish or similar (ventilate well). You now have black/green gooey tar.....yumm

This is the way the Bunz does it. Freeze it, let it gum up to where u can make some gooey balls. Than coat with honey or syrup and down the hatch.....works beautifully.

Oblivion · 07-09-08, 14:52

I make the tea and guzzle it with some lemon juice. Aint too bad for me. Ive found you need a minimum of 14 oz of fresh material for a very mild but nice effect. Better a couple pounds.

Oblivion · 07-09-08, 15:00

Ive got a new one(for me at least). I made some tea over the weekend and I was trying to build a new dog house (more like a mansion). After I strained the pulp out, I let it simmer a little to reduce the fluid. Well anyway, I got distracted and when I realized it, the fluid had completely evaported leaving black tar. I scraped it up into a nice pile. I think Ill try the honey trick and see how it goes. Anyone else try this?

Highflmn · 07-09-08, 15:22

How many grams of dried san pedro would be a good dose? I ate 28 grams of capsules and the only effects it gave me was a hangover in the morning.

Irishlion · 07-09-08, 15:35

One must take into account the actual cacti as well man. The enviromental factors where is grew. How it grew. Was it real San Pedro or just a look alike. There are alot of trich cacti at look very very similar to one another. As far as dried dosage is concerned I would say around 40 to 60 grams is a good dosage of san pedro. Although people have tripped off less (probally due to the Mescline content of the particluar cacti). So in all realiity 50 grams of dried perdo would do you good IMHO

Geltabz101 · 07-09-08, 15:44

I usely get about 4 ft of san pedro and make tea out of it. Little bit of lemon some honey or brown sugar and tastes like black tea. I don't know about 13 hrs but cheers if you get that outcome or want that outcome. Per curiosity , is this cactus from random place (outside of neighborhood,ect..) or is this from nursery,home grown. I noticed the harshly treated cactus lasted longer and was quite a bit more intense.

Mr. Clean · 07-09-08, 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishlion

Was it real San Pedro or just a look alike

Fresh San Pedro, T. Pachanoi straight from Bouncing Bear

I assume it's grown locally, in NE..But, I could be wrong..?

Irishlion · 07-09-08, 16:07

Ohhhhhh sorry Mr clean LOL I was responing to high when I said that about the cacti. Also allow me to say that my trips on cacti have been from actuall mescline extracted from the cacti. therefore its much more intense and a lot better IMHO than eating that shit LOL but, eating or drinking williamsii is the shit. I wouldn't dare extract from it. But, yes that 2 foot of fresh cacti is indeed enough if you tea the whole thing and "gulp" drink er down. You should have a decent ride. But, for the best mescline trip then you will most diffently want to extract the mescline and take say 300mg to 500mg or .3 to .5 grams of it. The best way to do this is take the extracted pureified mescline and capsule is and swallow and awayyyyyyy ya gooooooo.

fritshrooms · 07-09-08, 17:07

Mr. C: From what I've been reading, a foot is a decent dose for one person. I'd imagine that cooking it down completely would yield the stronger trip, but I'm still waiting on mine in the mail.

steeq · 07-09-08, 22:40

Mescaline. Got me thinking

Sounds like a lot of fun, please post a trip report, Mr. Clean.

Two things on the top of my list, not checked yet.

Cacti-Mescaline
DMT

Geltabz101 · 07-13-08, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by seymorebunz

Quote from another thread;

Alcohol extraction is quick and easy. Cut them up into stars, dry, than to the blender, than put the powder in a container, pour in some grain alcohol such as Bacardi 101 or Everlear,

Dude use everclear, 151 not kosher . When I did first time I used 151 and got mad sick. I think the sugars in it at to the nausea. I like the tea with lemon or lime and litlle bit of honey cinnamon (taste like apple sauce but tea).

Chaos · 07-18-08, 14:27

Swim gets about 12 to 14 hours from pure mescaline.
If you have the time and inclination extract the mescaline from the cacti. Super clean trip.
http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescalin...l-easy-pie.htm

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Shadowlord · 07-18-08, 21:33

Nice looking Mesc there Chaos!
Is that Hcl or Citrate?
Either way, very clean, very nice. I still have some Tar capsules to take b/4 I do the full on extraction but I am looking forward to experiencing both.
My only experience w/ cacti/mesc has been cactus tea so far.
I was impressed!

Raziel · 07-23-08, 09:11

I've tripped hard on 30 grams of san pedro and it was one of the best trips I've been on. 2 ft of cacti sounds alot, im sure only the outer skin and just beneath the skin is the good stuff so how many grams of dried skin would you get from 2 feet of san pedro?

mushroommaster7 · 07-23-08, 18:51

how does the euphoric high,.... like the body high of mescaline compare to psil?? because the high i get on psilocybin is my FAVORITE feeling in the world... how do the hallucinations of mescaline differ from mushrooms?

Mr. Clean · 07-23-08, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel

I've tripped hard on 30 grams of san pedro and it was one of the best trips I've been on. 2 ft of cacti sounds alot, im sure only the outer skin and just beneath the skin is the good stuff so how many grams of dried skin would you get from 2 feet of san pedro?

30 grams wet or dry?

Mr. Clean · 07-23-08, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushroommaster7

how does the euphoric high,.... like the body high of mescaline compare to psil?? because the high i get on psilocybin is my FAVORITE feeling in the world... how do the hallucinations of mescaline differ from mushrooms?

can't say for sure, as i haven't had the chance to try it yet..but from what i hear, there is a very minimal to no body high w/cacti. mescaline works primarily on the visual cortex of the brain, whereas psilocybin mimics the effect of seratonin on your receptors. but, precisely where in the brain and in what matter are unknown.r

Raziel · 07-24-08, 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Clean

30 grams wet or dry?

30 Grams dry outer skin, I boiled this for a total of about 6 hours while filtering evry 2 hours or so.

Regarding the high, I think cactus is better than mushrooms but I've only tripped once on cactus compared to 10+ with shrooms but the high was clearer and cleaner with no paranoia or confusion that comes with mushrooms. The few visuals which I had as 30 g is a low dose were very strange and hard to explain but throughout the 14 hour trip I felt happy and had a smile on my face

mushroommaster7 · 07-24-08, 10:29

so i guess it's harder to have a bad experience on cacti huh?

Mr. Clean · 07-24-08, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushroommaster7

so i guess it's harder to have a bad experience on cacti huh?

that seems to be the general consensus. though, whether or not mescaline is actually any "gentler" than psilocybin, is debatable..perhaps the lack 'negative' trip reports is due entirely to the cactus' good reputation..just my 2 cents

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07-08-08, 15:52	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 335	Mescaline Duration About how long do the effects of cacti such as T. Pachanoi or T. Pervuianus last? Is mescaline similar in duration to psilocybin? Does it last longer? I can't seem to find an answer anywhere..any and all input would be greatly appreciated!! __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-09-08, 13:07	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 335	13-16 hours..Woot!! What do you mean by "far greater..?" __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-09-08, 13:47	#5 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1973 Posts: 2,939	12 hours is normal for a strong dose. i too never had a bad mescaline/cactus voyage although 12 hours does include the come up which can take 3 hours. __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

07-09-08, 13:58	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Clean Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 335	Cool..I'm assuming cactus/mescaline feels somewhat similar to mushrooms or LSD, right? Or, should I be expecting something completely different.. I've heard mescaline is a much more spiritual trip than psilocybin, is this true? __________________ "And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

07-08-08, 16:16	#2 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 475	a good does of mescline will last you about 13 to 16 hours man and its be far greater than psil ever will be IMHO

07-09-08, 13:29	#4 (permalink)
Shadowlord Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 300	I think I.L. is referring to the much longer duration. And I , personally, have had much more luck w/ cacti in tripping and getting visuals etc vs shrooms. But then everybody has their own reaction to each substance. I'm sure we could find a 100 Shroomers here who would say that shrooms are better. For me, LSD and Mescaline/Cacti is a much better way to go. SHrooms sometimes just make me feel cold,hungover,and depressed w/ lots of yawning. Never had a bad LSD or Cacti trip.

07-09-08, 14:32	#8 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 3,623	Lol.. hard to describe a drug experiance...that's why I love it ! __________________ Neurologic

07-09-08, 14:43	#10 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 475	the whole thing

07-09-08, 14:51	#13 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 475	I would have to agree make tea from it and drink the tea add some lemon and honey and BAM your off the the races or as I like to call it "walking between the worlds"

07-09-08, 14:52	#15 (permalink)
Oblivion Join me there Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 243	I make the tea and guzzle it with some lemon juice. Aint too bad for me. Ive found you need a minimum of 14 oz of fresh material for a very mild but nice effect. Better a couple pounds. __________________ I was created by the Ultrich and destroyed by the Humans.

07-09-08, 15:00	#16 (permalink)
Oblivion Join me there Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 243	Ive got a new one(for me at least). I made some tea over the weekend and I was trying to build a new dog house (more like a mansion). After I strained the pulp out, I let it simmer a little to reduce the fluid. Well anyway, I got distracted and when I realized it, the fluid had completely evaported leaving black tar. I scraped it up into a nice pile. I think Ill try the honey trick and see how it goes. Anyone else try this? __________________ I was created by the Ultrich and destroyed by the Humans.

07-09-08, 15:22	#17 (permalink)
Highflmn Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	How many grams of dried san pedro would be a good dose? I ate 28 grams of capsules and the only effects it gave me was a hangover in the morning.

07-09-08, 15:35	#18 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 475	One must take into account the actual cacti as well man. The enviromental factors where is grew. How it grew. Was it real San Pedro or just a look alike. There are alot of trich cacti at look very very similar to one another. As far as dried dosage is concerned I would say around 40 to 60 grams is a good dosage of san pedro. Although people have tripped off less (probally due to the Mescline content of the particluar cacti). So in all realiity 50 grams of dried perdo would do you good IMHO

07-09-08, 15:44	#19 (permalink)
Geltabz101 Mycophiliac Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 16	I usely get about 4 ft of san pedro and make tea out of it. Little bit of lemon some honey or brown sugar and tastes like black tea. I don't know about 13 hrs but cheers if you get that outcome or want that outcome. Per curiosity , is this cactus from random place (outside of neighborhood,ect..) or is this from nursery,home grown. I noticed the harshly treated cactus lasted longer and was quite a bit more intense.

07-09-08, 16:07	#21 (permalink)
Irishlion dimensional outcast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 475	Ohhhhhh sorry Mr clean LOL I was responing to high when I said that about the cacti. Also allow me to say that my trips on cacti have been from actuall mescline extracted from the cacti. therefore its much more intense and a lot better IMHO than eating that shit LOL but, eating or drinking williamsii is the shit. I wouldn't dare extract from it. But, yes that 2 foot of fresh cacti is indeed enough if you tea the whole thing and "gulp" drink er down. You should have a decent ride. But, for the best mescline trip then you will most diffently want to extract the mescline and take say 300mg to 500mg or .3 to .5 grams of it. The best way to do this is take the extracted pureified mescline and capsule is and swallow and awayyyyyyy ya gooooooo.

07-09-08, 22:40	#23 (permalink)
steeq Star Gazer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 424	Mescaline. Got me thinking Sounds like a lot of fun, please post a trip report, Mr. Clean. Two things on the top of my list, not checked yet. Cacti-Mescaline DMT __________________ Life is nothing more than a series of moments strung together, but we can only live in the present one.

07-18-08, 14:27	#25 (permalink)
Chaos Fuck Mook Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 323	Mescaline duration Swim gets about 12 to 14 hours from pure mescaline. If you have the time and inclination extract the mescaline from the cacti. Super clean trip. http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescalin...l-easy-pie.htm </IMG> Attached Thumbnails __________________ Carpe fermentum

07-18-08, 21:33	#26 (permalink)
Shadowlord Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 300	Nice looking Mesc there Chaos! Is that Hcl or Citrate? Either way, very clean, very nice. I still have some Tar capsules to take b/4 I do the full on extraction but I am looking forward to experiencing both. My only experience w/ cacti/mesc has been cactus tea so far. I was impressed!

07-23-08, 09:11	#27 (permalink)
Raziel I don't walk, I float Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 417	I've tripped hard on 30 grams of san pedro and it was one of the best trips I've been on. 2 ft of cacti sounds alot, im sure only the outer skin and just beneath the skin is the good stuff so how many grams of dried skin would you get from 2 feet of san pedro?

07-23-08, 18:51	#28 (permalink)
mushroommaster7 mycopsychologist Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 167	how does the euphoric high,.... like the body high of mescaline compare to psil?? because the high i get on psilocybin is my FAVORITE feeling in the world... how do the hallucinations of mescaline differ from mushrooms? __________________ "if you're good at something, never do it for free..."

07-24-08, 10:29	#32 (permalink)
mushroommaster7 mycopsychologist Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 167	so i guess it's harder to have a bad experience on cacti huh? __________________ "if you're good at something, never do it for free..."