cold water MH tea

[y6afraid]

I posted this in 'general discussions' but after I looked more carefully, I thought it really should be here -

After going through some of the chem tech around MH/harmoline (believe me, it's more than I want to deal with) I found out that some people believe that

1. You don't need MAOI with MH
2. That MH can be used effectively just by soaking in cold water, squeezing etc.

Anyone with experience in this? Being a non-smoker and headed towards a raw foods diet, this seems too good to be true!

Because 789

[extrememetal43]

that's a lot of bark...some take only 2.5 grams with an maoi. So that's 10 to 40 time's more u need w/o 1.

[steeq]

Would anyone care to share experiences of MHRB with an maoi? I am assuming you just grind the bark up and ingest it?

[nugget]

how can I resist?
its fantastic , i take the extracted rue salts and spice .
the first few sessions were tough but then something changes , even though I might cry , shit or puke I can say that I have never felt something so wonderful in my life.
even the puking is great , its like projectile and I always feel good when its happening and even better when its over.
I believe in God now , before in an opiated daze i wasnt sure. but now I know that I dont need that stuff and I feel so much better without it.
at the peak of a large dose I cant even describe it , it feels like my face is rippling and sometimes my teeth kinda chatter but strange and wonderful sounds come out.
Oh and no i dont think you eat the bark.
extract the chem or make a tea out of it.

[y6afraid]

2.5 grams of what? Powdered bark? Spice? Some other kind of extract or tincture? Sorry I'm such a noob about this, but I don't have cube growing conditions right now, and am looking for visionary alternatives -

cauz789

[extrememetal43]

arite there was a post before my second 1 that aint there no more. It would tie things together better. that dude said it would take at least 30 grams of MHRB w/o an maoi to get an effect...also said had taken upwards of 100 grams w/o maoi.

now, taken dmt w/ am maoi is considered a form of ayahuasca...look up ayahuasca if u never heard of it. there are 2 main forms of maoi's ppl take...1 is syrian rue or its extract the other is banisteriopsis caapi. There are a few forms ppl take the dmt as...1. chacruna 2. MHRB and 3. extracted dmt amongst others those are the popular ones. Official ayahuasca is b. caapi and the chacruna

refering to our conversation ppl w/ an maoi will take as little as 2.5 grams of MHRB made into tea to get affects. With all of these the recomended dosages do vary greatly on the net w/ different brewing styles etc so do your homework...this is the real deal as you'll find out when u read about it.

[y6afraid]

Gotcha - that's why I was so surprised when I started finding the talk about MHRB in cold water - I'm familiar with Ayahuasca formulae; I think I will try a cold water tea/liquid harmaline and the cold water tea alone just to see for myself what happens, since I'm not able to make spice right now.

Thanks for the fill-in -

[extrememetal43]

it seems w/ MHRB a cold water extraction is the best from what i gathered. seems wasteful 2 take it w/o an maoi and the chance of nausea cant be better that way.

[cheech]

Moclobemide is another reversible maoi that may be used. it's a pharm drug.