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    Old 09-16-08, 18:57   #1 (permalink)
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    40 Grams of San Pedro

    If you had 40 grams of san pedro, powdered by someone whom you trust, what would you do with it?

    It isn't enough to really bother with any type of extraction.

    And I really don't want to just eat the whole thing.

    I thought about sticking it up my ass, but it's a little much. LOL (j/k)

    W.W.T.D.

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    Old 09-16-08, 19:37   #2 (permalink)
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    I have never done pedro yet but if I had it I would prolly make a tea from it and chug it and chase it with something really flavorful to try to cover what I'm sure would be a horrible taste just my 2 cents
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    I have done pedro before, but i'm not very experienced. Probably one of the better ways to do it would be nanook of the north's tea tek.(syrup)
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    Old 09-17-08, 00:37   #4 (permalink)
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    If you had 40 grams of san pedro, powdered by someone whom you trust, what would you do with it?

    It isn't enough to really bother with any type of extraction.

    And I really don't want to just eat the whole thing.

    I thought about sticking it up my ass, but it's a little much. LOL (j/k)

    W.W.T.D.

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    I would just do an ISO extract from it. It will take you a few days rather than a few hours but I find it easier to deal w/ a little bit of Tar rather than drinking that tea. I did the tea the first time to get the full cactus experience and the tea works really well but make sure you eat while on it.
    The tar seems to work best for me if I eat a bunch of food and then take capsules of the tar. The food buffers the mesc. and it gets your guts moving around to help get the caps dissolved and getting to work.

    Although, if it is San Pedro rather than P. Torch, maybe tea is the best way to go.
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    Old 09-17-08, 08:48   #5 (permalink)
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    I patiently await your trip report my friend, whatever you decide to do!!
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    Old 09-17-08, 15:28   #6 (permalink)
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    I patiently await your trip report my friend, whatever you decide to do!!
    It may be a little while. From what my buddy tells me, this is quite a potent batch. (he grows Pedro)

    I've had these freaking trips last me 14+ hours before, so I need to plan a day where I haven't a damn thing to do.

    I'm actually quite experienced with pedro, but I've only had powder once and I ended up puking the whole thing up 20 minutes after eating it. I had a mild trip. Could have been better.

    Ok I'm gonna read around and see if I can pick up any tips on what to do with this stuff.

    Wish me luck!!
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    Old 09-17-08, 20:48   #7 (permalink)
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    but I've only had powder once and I ended up puking the whole thing up 20 minutes after eating it. I had a mild trip. Could have been better.


    Wish me luck!!
    Make sure you take the dose in several stages about 20 mins apart. That will help w/ the nausea. If you can keep it all down for 90 mins you will be allright.
    A lot of people throw up regardless but if you can hang on for 90 mins you r system will have gotten it all.
    The time you tripped after throwing up is because that is how much you absorbed b/4 you voided the rest. Another good reason to take the dose in 3 parts. Reduces the nausea and won't lessen the effect of the trip.
    Have a good one Firerat!
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    Old 09-18-08, 11:55   #8 (permalink)
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    Make sure you take the dose in several stages about 20 mins apart. That will help w/ the nausea. If you can keep it all down for 90 mins you will be allright.
    A lot of people throw up regardless but if you can hang on for 90 mins you r system will have gotten it all.
    The time you tripped after throwing up is because that is how much you absorbed b/4 you voided the rest. Another good reason to take the dose in 3 parts. Reduces the nausea and won't lessen the effect of the trip.
    Have a good one Firerat!

    That's a damn good idea!! I think thats how I'm going to do it.

    My buddy actually does something similar. I spoke with him last night and he told me he takes the powder, mixes w/ water and some lemon juice (to add some acidity), then puts it in the freezer overnight. He seems to think it helps break down the cell walls in the powder, thus releasing more happiness and aids with swallowing this vile stuff. (what's your opinion on that)

    Oh yeah, I know I puke every time I take cactus. Comes with the territory I guess.

    Once the freeze is done, he takes it in small doses about 20 minutes apart. (just as you suggested)

    I'm not sure about the whole freezing thing, but I'm open to any suggestions.
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    you will get queasy at the least eating it whole. an iso extraction is good but you lose much of the beauty ime. if you can eat the 40g and keep it in you for 3 hours you will be fine. the waves of nausea were always accompanied by waves of comfort, so i never lost it, but i can see where most would.

    remember this and this is fact: even making tea kills some of the great synergy, and from there to iso to pure mescaline you lose more.

    i would like to try eating say ten grams of material on top of a dose of pure mesc or alcohol extracted; that would likely bring it where it needs to be both tripwise and nausea wise.
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    I would have to agree.
    I'm tempted to try the Tea again, just need to eat more b/4 or during my trip.
    My best experience on Mesc alone was from the tea, but I didn't eat and my appetite was ruined for a day and a half.
    Food seems to be a necessity for me w/ Mescaline. Even the ISO tar worked quicker and better on top of food. I will take the tea again on a fuller stomach next time.
    The idea of keeping some powdered cacti on hand, capsulized, is a great idea. I took 5 grams of powder in capsules as I was on my way down from a trip two weeks ago and was amazed at how much I felt off that 5g of powder. That being said though, I had to drink a ton of liquid! That dried powder sucked all the water right out of my system!
    Cactus pure and natural beats out extracts for sure, especially for a well rounded experience, but it can be troublesome. It's not as easy as dropping a tab of LSD but it is definitely worth the effort to experience the Cactus.
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    Ive noticed less nausea from tea than with tar. If you tar, I would definitely eat something to help with the nausea.
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    Old 09-19-08, 08:39   #12 (permalink)
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    .... but it can be troublesome. It's not as easy as dropping a tab of LSD but it is definitely worth the effort to experience the Cactus.
    Thats for damn sure!!

    Everytime I've ever used cactus, while I've had amazing experiences, something ends up a big pain in the ass.

    But I'm a patient guy. I don't mind trial and error as long as I see progression.
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    :P nans tea tek worked pretty good shadow. I was gonna try an iso extract but i was wondering the best way to dry my cactus.
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    i agree!

    definitely make tea inside of doing an alcohol extraction. swim did one recently and ended with like 12 grams (originally 50g dried) of nasty black tar.
    then swim had to use flour to roll the tar into balls since it was sooooo sticky and put into gram capsules. but ended with 14 of them since it was so fin sticky. or u should do an a/b extraction pretty damn easy if you can get the supplies in your area and if money readily available.

    good luck
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