Some More Inspiration.. Forest of Peyotl

Nunyabiz · 12-09-08, 19:54

It seems theres others out there doing the peres-bushes.. Check out these.. Theyre from the link.. WOW!!!

http://huachuma-valley.com/grafting/page5.html

myceliummatt · 12-09-08, 22:29

Wow!!! Amazing

Thanks for sharing

M,

suckerfree · 12-09-08, 22:31

wow nice pic!

wildburr · 12-09-08, 23:48

Wow I gotta get me one of those.

Shadowlord · 12-10-08, 00:23

Wow!

A forest of Peyote! Like a bunch of spiney green tomatoes on the vine.
It's beautiful.

Shroomette · 12-10-08, 00:41

Wow that is an amazing picture of the beautiful and sacred peyotes. Thanks for sharing that with us.

cuts · 12-10-08, 00:47

BEAUT I FULL!

Nice pictures man

pubensis · 12-10-08, 00:56

Thx.

badger1 · 12-10-08, 01:17

wow, thats awsome...are you growing for consumption?

mwillis71 · 12-10-08, 09:56

I'm curious, how does this work? They graft young peyote buttons onto another plant, does it make the peyote grow and mature faster? If so, that is amazing and could really help the species because people won't be raping the earth to get them irresponsibly.

weeeeeee · 12-10-08, 10:02

mwillis though i have no real experience with grafting cacti it is my understanding that that is why its done to speed things up a bit

Shadowlord · 12-10-08, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeeeeee

mwillis though i have no real experience with grafting cacti it is my understanding that that is why its done to speed things up a bit

Yes, They grow faster by grafting to another cacti ( faster growing species ) and I think it is easier to bring the seedlings/ small plants along than in the soil Less chance of molds/diseases etc.

Haven't performed it yet but that is how I plan to grow my Lophos once I germinate.

Nunyabiz · 12-10-08, 16:51

Ya those are grafted onto a plant called pereskiopsis... The holy grail of peyote grafting stock.. Those peyotl are at most 2.5 yrs old.. Not mine but inspiring.. With this method people dont have to dig up the precious cacti from the mother earth.. We can grow as many as we'd like.. Looks like these people have a greenhouse full of pereskiopsis stalks and just grafted away.. Probly had a few people help out to do that great haul.. Anyways... Graft away peepz!!! Soon I'll have some new pics of my caespitosa's on a bush.. I love grafting..

teesus · 12-10-08, 17:43

i somhow kill all my grafting attemps. how do you press the seedlings on the grafting layer the first week?

Nunyabiz · 12-11-08, 00:11

Hmm.. Are you using peres? Are the seedlings very young or have they grown for a while? The youngest are best for grafting IMO. Once they get about 1/4 inch or bigger they are herder to graft.. Also if your air is dry theyll dry up before they heal.. Try super glueing around the edges.. If the lophs are bigger than 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch san pedro can do wonders..

teesus · 12-11-08, 05:13

no i never tried it with peres. i tryed it on hylocereus and trichos. i try to find peres for the next time and try super glue. my attemps fixing them last times were made using duct tape or strings, i failed with both.

Nunyabiz · 12-11-08, 11:38

Ive tried with myrtillocactus unsuccesfully.. 6 died.. I think pedros will work better for ya.. I tried one on pedro and it worked.. I taped the scion down with packaging tape.. I put a small piece or paper on the tape over the scion for easy removal.. It does need to be held down not too tight but not loose.. Leave 3 days.. Then unwrap and wait.. Sometimes grafts just wont work.. It happens.. Dont let it discourage you.. Just try more.. Heres a pic of my one n only pedro graft.. So far!

PsilocybeChild · 12-11-08, 12:45

Wow. Only 1 - 2 1/2years old

Inspirational indeed. Thanks for sharing.

PsilocybeChild · 12-11-08, 12:58

"This peyote was grafted as a few days old seedling in June (that's only three months ago). It has already sprouted seven new pups!"

from http://www.thenook.org/archives/tek/...sis-peyote.htm

Shadowlord · 12-11-08, 13:41

Very nice!
Apparently the grafting works well, that's a lot of growth for 3 months!
Great job!

Nunyabiz · 12-11-08, 14:00

Whoever did that graft grew incredibly fast.. Peres is amazing isnt it? See how they turn red just as they begin to burst into light speed.. Looks like some of my earlier ones.. For me to reach that size its more like 6 months but in a tropical climate thats probly the norm..

Cool pic..

suckerfree · 12-12-08, 23:17

i came across this picture of aureole grafts.... neat.

claykrys · 12-12-08, 23:20

Thats awsome

Shadowlord · 12-12-08, 23:59

Thanks Nunyabiz!
Such great stuff it has achieved Sticky Status.

Definitely gives me hope an inspiration for what to do w/ my 6 little Lopho seeds.

cubpedro · 12-19-08, 15:33

In theory could u cut a couple of pups off, graft them and then let develop pups to continue the process ?

Nunyabiz · 12-19-08, 21:55

Yes! I think what your talkin about is cloning.. Its easiest with caespitosa but can be done with most if not all cacti.. You can graft one pup and let it grow until it has pups then graft those.. If you dont have a caespitosa it can be done to williamsii or others by allowing the graft to get an inch or so around and cut the top 20% off.. After a few weeks as long as there are areoles to grow from you may get up to 9 offsets..

Heres one thats been topped as we call it.. Click the link..
http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...img_2067_2.jpg

Nunyabiz · 01-15-09, 13:25

Heres some pics of the latest grafts.. They are all clones of a seed grown caespitosa.. I included a pic of an older one similar to the mother used for the peres bush.. They were inside in the shade for a while but now are under flouros.. They should plump up nicely..

I hate winter!!!

Nunyabiz · 01-22-09, 23:24

Heres some inspiring stuff from a Foaf.. Very cool artwork too..! Most of these have been grown aeroponic.. You can see that in the pic with the flasks.. Enjoy..

suckerfree · 01-23-09, 00:14

sweet pictures, any more information than that?? how was the growth in those flasks?

Nunyabiz · 01-23-09, 14:24

Aeroponics are the shiznit.. Simply put.. Cuttings of the pereskiopsis are allowed to heal a couple days then thrown into a aero system.. Roots grow super fast and I've even revived shrivled almost dead grafts by putting them in aero.. After they have roots, graft and they grow very fast..

An aeroponic setup with a powerful air pump is way better and cleaner for grafting IMO. The air pump I have can bubble like 24 flasks easy.. I like to crowd em too so theres like 3 grafts in each.. Dose very lightly with fertilizer.. Change water every week or two..

Ill be setting up my aero system again soon so Ill get a pic tutorial up or somethin,..

spacecake · 01-23-09, 18:17

Those are some pretty cool pictures...!

Nice...

spacecake · 01-23-09, 18:21

Btw a nice pic of the month nominee !

Burger · 01-29-09, 10:23

Cool thread, Here are a few of mine. 9 months old from seed

Nunyabiz · 01-29-09, 12:56

Wow.. Those are nice... Do you use artificial lighting or sun? If artificial what kind? Looks like you got it down.. Same plastic pots I got..

Burger · 01-29-09, 16:58

Hey. Thanks

I use artificial light. 4 x 4' flouro's (2 x cool white and 2 x grolux tubes spaced about 6-8" apart). The lights sit about 1-2" off the tops of the plants. Those pots are perfect from peres grafts, you can cram about 40 to a regular grow tray

Nunyabiz · 01-29-09, 17:27

Excellent... Same setup as mine almost.. Ive been using 4 x 3 footers all are cool white.. I have a couple that have a red/orange hue for flowering but never used those ones.. Those are some beautiful grafts.. Keep up the good work..!

jimbojones · 02-01-09, 12:55

That is the most bad ass thing I have seen in a good while.

Nunyabiz · 02-02-09, 15:34

Heres more of the peres buckets.. Some of these are topped.. Meaning the tops are slice off to promote pupping..

MrChen · 02-02-09, 16:01

Thank you so much for sharing!

eastwood · 02-02-09, 16:10

Great job and great thread.That is a forest of Peyote

datsun · 02-05-09, 11:39

Great pictures, How long does it take for a normal peyote to mature?

How much time is saved by cloning onto a faster growing plant?

Nunyabiz · 02-05-09, 16:51

A peyotl take at least 10+ years to mature in nature. Possibly 20+ depending on conditions.. In cultivation its possible in 5+.. On a graft it can be done in a year or two..

datsun · 02-05-09, 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

A peyotl take at least 10+ years to mature in nature. Possibly 20+ depending on conditions.. In cultivation its possible in 5+.. On a graft it can be done in a year or two..

Then this is even more amazing that I thought! Thanks Nun for sharing the info!

-Datsun

kr0nah0lic · 03-08-09, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwillis71

I'm curious, how does this work? They graft young peyote buttons onto another plant, does it make the peyote grow and mature faster? If so, that is amazing and could really help the species because people won't be raping the earth to get them irresponsibly.

I agree with you mwillis! not only is grafting a good technique to increase production and yield but also diversity!

Thank you for the pix of the forest! great inspiration.

Nunyabiz · 04-01-09, 23:13

Heres some more inspirational pics.. Some of these are of grafts shown earlier in this thread.. Some are from a friend.. I may have to do two posts to get all the pics posted that I want to share.. Enjoy.!

Nunyabiz · 04-01-09, 23:17

heres a few more

Rhyno · 04-01-09, 23:28

Nun, When this party happens can I come hang out? Burning Man 2010?

Nunyabiz · 04-02-09, 00:01

Hell ya man... Everyone's invited..

el_ronhub_bird · 04-04-09, 01:08

nun-i have heard that grafted peyotl will develop in size at a greater rate than a non-grafted but maybe not necessarily so in potency. in your experience do you find any truth to this?

PsychoDrogue · 04-04-09, 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunyabiz

heres a few more

those ariocarpus look really healthy and very good in that pot with the loph. great job.

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12-09-08, 19:54	#1 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Some More Inspiration.. Forest of Peyotl It seems theres others out there doing the peres-bushes.. Check out these.. Theyre from the link.. WOW!!! http://huachuma-valley.com/grafting/page5.html Attached Thumbnails

12-09-08, 22:31	#3 (permalink)
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wildburr Midnight Toker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,731	Wow I gotta get me one of those. __________________ Silence is Golden, but Duct tape is Silver.

12-10-08, 00:23	#5 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	Wow! A forest of Peyote! Like a bunch of spiney green tomatoes on the vine. It's beautiful. __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

12-09-08, 22:29	#2 (permalink)
myceliummatt Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 92	Wow!!! Amazing Thanks for sharing M,

12-10-08, 00:41	#6 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,939	Wow that is an amazing picture of the beautiful and sacred peyotes. Thanks for sharing that with us. __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

12-10-08, 00:47	#7 (permalink)
cuts The Pope of Dope Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,213	BEAUT I FULL! Nice pictures man

12-10-08, 00:56	#8 (permalink)
pubensis NudistBuddhistRawFoodist Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 274	Thx. __________________ But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh, we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time they had been born to enjoy.

12-10-08, 01:17	#9 (permalink)
badger1 Mycophage Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 108	wow, thats awsome...are you growing for consumption?

12-10-08, 09:56	#10 (permalink)
mwillis71 funkybuttlover Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 184	I'm curious, how does this work? They graft young peyote buttons onto another plant, does it make the peyote grow and mature faster? If so, that is amazing and could really help the species because people won't be raping the earth to get them irresponsibly. __________________ Drugs are a bet with your mind. - Jim Morrison

12-10-08, 10:02	#11 (permalink)
weeeeeee humanoid Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,851	mwillis though i have no real experience with grafting cacti it is my understanding that that is why its done to speed things up a bit __________________ -p.l.u.r

12-10-08, 16:51	#13 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Ya those are grafted onto a plant called pereskiopsis... The holy grail of peyote grafting stock.. Those peyotl are at most 2.5 yrs old.. Not mine but inspiring.. With this method people dont have to dig up the precious cacti from the mother earth.. We can grow as many as we'd like.. Looks like these people have a greenhouse full of pereskiopsis stalks and just grafted away.. Probly had a few people help out to do that great haul.. Anyways... Graft away peepz!!! Soon I'll have some new pics of my caespitosa's on a bush.. I love grafting..

12-10-08, 17:43	#14 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	i somhow kill all my grafting attemps. how do you press the seedlings on the grafting layer the first week?

12-11-08, 00:11	#15 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Hmm.. Are you using peres? Are the seedlings very young or have they grown for a while? The youngest are best for grafting IMO. Once they get about 1/4 inch or bigger they are herder to graft.. Also if your air is dry theyll dry up before they heal.. Try super glueing around the edges.. If the lophs are bigger than 1/4 inch to 1/2 inch san pedro can do wonders..

12-12-08, 23:20	#23 (permalink)
claykrys VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,180	Thats awsome __________________ Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't watching you.

12-11-08, 05:13	#16 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	no i never tried it with peres. i tryed it on hylocereus and trichos. i try to find peres for the next time and try super glue. my attemps fixing them last times were made using duct tape or strings, i failed with both.

12-11-08, 11:38	#17 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Ive tried with myrtillocactus unsuccesfully.. 6 died.. I think pedros will work better for ya.. I tried one on pedro and it worked.. I taped the scion down with packaging tape.. I put a small piece or paper on the tape over the scion for easy removal.. It does need to be held down not too tight but not loose.. Leave 3 days.. Then unwrap and wait.. Sometimes grafts just wont work.. It happens.. Dont let it discourage you.. Just try more.. Heres a pic of my one n only pedro graft.. So far! Attached Thumbnails

12-11-08, 12:45	#18 (permalink)
PsilocybeChild beauty in the dissonance Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 113	Wow. Only 1 - 2 1/2years old Inspirational indeed. Thanks for sharing. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember; we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.

12-11-08, 12:58	#19 (permalink)
PsilocybeChild beauty in the dissonance Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 113	"This peyote was grafted as a few days old seedling in June (that's only three months ago). It has already sprouted seven new pups!" from http://www.thenook.org/archives/tek/...sis-peyote.htm Attached Thumbnails __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember; we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.

12-11-08, 13:41	#20 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	Very nice! Apparently the grafting works well, that's a lot of growth for 3 months! Great job! __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

12-11-08, 14:00	#21 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Whoever did that graft grew incredibly fast.. Peres is amazing isnt it? See how they turn red just as they begin to burst into light speed.. Looks like some of my earlier ones.. For me to reach that size its more like 6 months but in a tropical climate thats probly the norm.. Cool pic..

12-12-08, 23:17	#22 (permalink)
suckerfree KEY MASTER Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,833	i came across this picture of aureole grafts.... neat. Attached Thumbnails __________________

12-12-08, 23:59	#24 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	Thanks Nunyabiz! Such great stuff it has achieved Sticky Status. Definitely gives me hope an inspiration for what to do w/ my 6 little Lopho seeds. __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

12-19-08, 15:33	#25 (permalink)
cubpedro entheopartaker Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 146	In theory could u cut a couple of pups off, graft them and then let develop pups to continue the process ?

12-19-08, 21:55	#26 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Yes! I think what your talkin about is cloning.. Its easiest with caespitosa but can be done with most if not all cacti.. You can graft one pup and let it grow until it has pups then graft those.. If you dont have a caespitosa it can be done to williamsii or others by allowing the graft to get an inch or so around and cut the top 20% off.. After a few weeks as long as there are areoles to grow from you may get up to 9 offsets.. Heres one thats been topped as we call it.. Click the link.. http://forums.mycotopia.net/attachme...img_2067_2.jpg

01-15-09, 13:25	#27 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	and more..... Heres some pics of the latest grafts.. They are all clones of a seed grown caespitosa.. I included a pic of an older one similar to the mother used for the peres bush.. They were inside in the shade for a while but now are under flouros.. They should plump up nicely.. I hate winter!!! Attached Thumbnails

01-22-09, 23:24	#28 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Heres some inspiring stuff from a Foaf.. Very cool artwork too..! Most of these have been grown aeroponic.. You can see that in the pic with the flasks.. Enjoy.. Attached Thumbnails

01-23-09, 00:14	#29 (permalink)
suckerfree KEY MASTER Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,833	sweet pictures, any more information than that?? how was the growth in those flasks? __________________

01-23-09, 14:24	#30 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Aeroponics are the shiznit.. Simply put.. Cuttings of the pereskiopsis are allowed to heal a couple days then thrown into a aero system.. Roots grow super fast and I've even revived shrivled almost dead grafts by putting them in aero.. After they have roots, graft and they grow very fast.. An aeroponic setup with a powerful air pump is way better and cleaner for grafting IMO. The air pump I have can bubble like 24 flasks easy.. I like to crowd em too so theres like 3 grafts in each.. Dose very lightly with fertilizer.. Change water every week or two.. Ill be setting up my aero system again soon so Ill get a pic tutorial up or somethin,..

01-23-09, 18:17	#31 (permalink)
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01-23-09, 18:21	#32 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Btw a nice pic of the month nominee ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

01-29-09, 10:23	#33 (permalink)
Burger Bark at the moon. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 325	Cool thread, Here are a few of mine. 9 months old from seed Attached Thumbnails __________________ Your life is an occasion......Rise to it.

01-29-09, 12:56	#34 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Wow.. Those are nice... Do you use artificial lighting or sun? If artificial what kind? Looks like you got it down.. Same plastic pots I got..

01-29-09, 16:58	#35 (permalink)
Burger Bark at the moon. Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 325	Hey. Thanks I use artificial light. 4 x 4' flouro's (2 x cool white and 2 x grolux tubes spaced about 6-8" apart). The lights sit about 1-2" off the tops of the plants. Those pots are perfect from peres grafts, you can cram about 40 to a regular grow tray __________________ Your life is an occasion......Rise to it.

01-29-09, 17:27	#36 (permalink)
Nunyabiz Teonanacatl Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563	Excellent... Same setup as mine almost.. Ive been using 4 x 3 footers all are cool white.. I have a couple that have a red/orange hue for flowering but never used those ones.. Those are some beautiful grafts.. Keep up the good work..!