LSA - Cold Water Extraction

[Psilocybin52]

Hey people.

Last week I tried a cold water extraction method for morning glory seeds I found on these forums... which is

1.) wash seeds with hand soap
2.) dry seeds
3.) use a coffee grinder to make the seeds coarse
4.) use the seed mixture to make a cold tea
5.) drink

I used 9 grams, which is about 300-350 seeds.

I weigh 160 lbs. The only thing that happened was lucid dreams.

I had the mixture brewing in a dark place in cold water for about 3-4 hours. It had a cloudy brown/amber appearance. Is there any factor aside from sunlight and heat that can break down the tryptamines or was this just too low of a dose?

What do you suggest for a dose? I have up to 950-1000 seeds ( 27g ) to use.

[francisco]

I trip on 1200 when I do MGS, but I started with 600 and worked my way up 200 seeds a trip. I tripped pretty good on 600 open and closed eye visuals. I love tripping on Morning Glories. Some people add a squirt of lemon juice to the cold water. I have done the extract with and without the lemon didnt really notice a difference. Also I cannot tell a difference in the trip whether I let the seeds stay in the water for 30 minutes or a few hours, 30 minutes is plenty of time IME.

[cuts]

I would say you want 600 or more seeds for your cwe . For my first time trying morning glories i just ate 600 seeds and i wasn't dissapointed.

[Psilocybin52]

I took all 27g's and nothing again.

Don't think its the seeds, I've tried 2 different vendors now. The hell am I doing wrong?

[UrbanHermit]

Originally Posted by Psilocybin52

I took all 27g's and nothing again.

Don't think its the seeds, I've tried 2 different vendors now. The hell am I doing wrong?

you are using heavenly blue, pearly gates, or flying saucers variety, right? Also, use distilled water. chlorine is bad for LSA...

[Psilocybin52]

Using the blues and distilled water.

[berrygood]

Originally Posted by cuts

I would say you want 600 or more seeds for your cwe . For my first time trying morning glories i just ate 600 seeds and i wasn't dissapointed.

did you hurl a couple times I got an ounce of HBMG I'm debating eating them myself and could handle hurling as long as it's not constant hurling like an hour in front of the toilet puking my guts out.

[waffles420]

My tek I use is it first wash the seeds. Then grind into a powder. After that put powder into a water bottle and fill half way with cold water. Then shake for about 30minutes. After that get a clean T-shirt and pour through the shirt so its in a bowl shape and squeeze all that water into a bowl. Thats it, enjoy your discusting water. (gag)

Also another note. After ingesting it lye down and try to watch tv or something to take your time off the nausea. After the tiredness eat a little something like cherrios. I know you wont feel like it but it will make you feel so much better.

A final note. You dont want to eat the actual seeds.

[cuts]

Originally Posted by berrygood

did you hurl a couple times I got an ounce of HBMG I'm debating eating them myself and could handle hurling as long as it's not constant hurling like an hour in front of the toilet puking my guts out.

Morning glories? Yeah, during the trip i felt no nausea at all. But after it was over i did hurl a a couple times. It was worth it. It wasn't that bad. Everyone is different though.

[bobdolerson]

My experiences with MG were definitely mixed, but 27g's should have sent you off into a good trip. For me, a CWE gives some bad stomach pain for about 1.5 hours or so (maybe more, i'm not sure, by the time i threw up and the pain stopped, i was already mentally unable to process or understand time).

Definitely more visual than HBWR, and if 27g's isn't getting you, then you're either killing the LSA somewhere with light or heat (are you using a coffee grinder? 'cause too much grinding will render them impotent from the heat), the sponsors gave you bunk seeds, or you're just ridiculously tolerant.

[cuts]

Personally swim has never had any success with a cwe. That is why he just ended up eating them. They were definately good seeds he just couldn't get the cwe to work. He followed the directions down to a tee with no success. Maybe thats whats going on here?

[Oblivion]

Same here. I can only think that there is a significant loss with cwe. I am going to do a cwe on hbwr this weekend using seeds I know are good to see if I'm doing something wrong.

[njwes06]

all the tips on other sites ive been reading explain extraction using chemicals for instants 1 said use petrolium ether another said wood alcohole then sit in 100 proof vodka and let sit in a dark spot for a couple days till it becomes a goo, scrape and then injest is this all needed to get a mg trip?ive been picking/tripping on gold tops and blue meanies for a while but were in a drought atm with minimal rain so i wanna give mg a shot.
also because of customs laws i can't get mg shipped here but know of vast wild growing mg would this be safe to use after washing?
sorry i think ive hijact the thread my appologies

[Psilocybin52]

Originally Posted by bobdolerson

(are you using a coffee grinder? 'cause too much grinding will render them impotent from the heat)

I was, gonna try again without that. Thanks for the feedback everybody.

[Nunyabiz]

Ive got 100 Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds.. I would love to try an extract on em.. 6-7 of these bad boys and Im high as hell.. 12 and shit starts moving if ya zone out on something..

[Psilocybin52]

In conclusion, don't use a coffee grinder to bustup your seeds. It'll kill the lsa.

[cuts]

Originally Posted by Psilocybin52

In conclusion, don't use a coffee grinder to bustup your seeds. It'll kill the lsa.

What are you talking about? Every time i've tried lsa i've used a coffee grinder to chop up the seeds. Your not supposed to grind them for over 10 seconds at a time though, it will cause the lsa to die from all the heat caused from the friction.

[Psilocybin52]

[kompton]

Originally Posted by berrygood

did you hurl a couple times I got an ounce of HBMG I'm debating eating them myself and could handle hurling as long as it's not constant hurling like an hour in front of the toilet puking my guts out.

dont try Ayahuasca, lol, if your lucky just for a hour...

[Nunyabiz]

Some people puke theyre guts out and end up feeling sick.. I never get that though.. Some nausea at most.. Maybe if you get too nauseated try takin less seeds.. Ive taken as little as 4 with a nice buzz.. 12 makes your stomach turn a little but like I said this never bothers me much.. Mesc doesnt do it to me either but others get very sick and puke.. It all depends on your body.. Every one is different.. Out of say 6 peeps that ate em with me.. One puked and felt sick.. One puked and felt great after. The rest were just trippin..

[outkasted00]

Take an ounce of heavenly blues from bouncingbearbotanicals.com
and get some strong vodka. use a mortar and pestal to pulverise the seeds. soak the seed mix for a couple of days, shaking it everyday.
coffee filters clog up, so use cheese cloth to filter solids. evaporate
liquid until solid black remains. scrape up 1 to 3 dime sized balls and eat.

I ate this before and being a larger person, the only effects were brightening of colors and large dialated pupils.

[108]

Originally Posted by outkasted00

Take an ounce of heavenly blues from bouncingbearbotanicals.com
and get some strong vodka. use a mortar and pestal to pulverise the seeds. soak the seed mix for a couple of days, shaking it everyday.
coffee filters clog up, so use cheese cloth to filter solids. evaporate
liquid until solid black remains. scrape up 1 to 3 dime sized balls and eat.

I ate this before and being a larger person, the only effects were brightening of colors and large dialated pupils.

^^anyone else ever try this? sounds interesting.... i would think the LSA would break down in the vodka. Also, did you keep it in the dark when doing your evap?

[Shadowlord]

The LSA won't break down in the Vodka.
The LSA is soluble in the Alcohol. There are many alcohol extraction teks for LSA and some believe that if you use the right alcohol ( sherry, any othere high aceteldyhyde wine will convert the LSA to LSH )
The main things to worry about w/ LSA are light and heat.
The only knock against Vodka is that usually grain alcohol or Ethanol is used as you want the higher proof to extract the goodies.
You can even use ISO as long as you are evaporating it and not trying to make a drinkable tincture.

[berrygood]

I hear others say the nauseating alk's get extracted with the LSA using alcohol only.

[108]

Originally Posted by berrygood

I hear others say the nauseating alk's get extracted with the LSA using alcohol only.

really? from all the reports i have heard it seems to be hit and miss both ways... some get nausea via water extract and some don't... some get nausea with alcohol and some don't. i always thought it relied more on body chemistry then extract method in this case (MG/HBW/etc).

[berrygood]

it might reduce the nausea, but I heard a more thorough extraction using naptha then alcohol gets rid of the nausea swim might try it though possibly we'll see.

[mojox]

Hi all:

Just put 150 seeds in a porcelain mortar and crush them slowly whit a pistil, then put them in a glas of whater, let'em sit for an hour, then shake the tea, filter it, and enjoy, that works for me.

Regards
Mojox