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Old 03-04-09, 04:29   #1 (permalink)
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How much Dry pedro do I need ?

I have some good dry San Pedro
How much I need to take, is it dependent on weight (mine) ?

what is the trash hold ?
I would like a good trip not just be high ..

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For a sure shot, I would hit around 70 grams.
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Old 03-04-09, 11:17   #3 (permalink)
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For a sure shot, I would hit around 70 grams.
mmm ok then, got you I will go for more but I will take 60g just to be sure I am not over do for the first time ..


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I used 30g of good quality pedro shavings and it gave me a euphoric high with very noticable vison distortion but very mild, lasted 12 hours+.
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I think threshold for pedro would be around 50g dry.
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I know with some of the best commercial torch 40-50g is a threshold dose. If the pachanoi is known to be potent 60-70 will be fine. Everytime I dose too low I wish Id have taken more when it comes to cactus. Pretty much the opposite for most anything else.
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Everytime I dose too low I wish Id have taken more when it comes to cactus.
I can't tell you how many times I thought the exact same thing. The trouble with cactus is that it's costly and somewhat unpredictable. An underdose leaves you feeling ripped off. Nowadays I go more just to be sure. One more thing zozo. If you have grass available and you do dose yourself a little low, I've found that a bowl of grass will amplify the effects of mesc. If the effects are good, I would stay away from the grass or anything else until you get a good feel of what mesc is all about.
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I can't tell you how many times I thought the exact same thing. The trouble with cactus is that it's costly and somewhat unpredictable. An underdose leaves you feeling ripped off. Nowadays I go more just to be sure. One more thing zozo. If you have grass available and you do dose yourself a little low, I've found that a bowl of grass will amplify the effects of mesc. If the effects are good, I would stay away from the grass or anything else until you get a good feel of what mesc is all about.



on a good mescaline trip I have found weed feels very forgien to me. Perhaps thats just me but, I couldn't agree with oblivion more, your first expereince leave out the MJ till you are coming down nicely.


Honestly with pedro I would shoot for 90 grams man, that will get you started nicely and give you a very good feel for mesc man. Shouldn't overwhelm you but, should damn sure let you know its there.
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I save the weed and sally for the comedown. It kicks the trip back in and is a totally different feeling. I went from earthy to alien in a few hits. Very good mix on the come down ime.

Also, without trying to sound vulgar, when I come down I am hornier than a 3 peckered billygoat.
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Honestly with pedro I would shoot for 90 grams man, that will get you started nicely
Damn, you don't fuck around much do ya! He did say he wanted a good trip though. Hey zozo, if you dont mind me asking, if youve had shrooms before or regularly, how much can you handle before things get out of control? That will be a good gauge on how much mesc you can control.
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Also, without trying to sound vulgar, when I come down I am hornier than a 3 peckered billygoat.
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Damn, you don't fuck around much do ya! He did say he wanted a good trip though. Hey zozo, if you dont mind me asking, if youve had shrooms before or regularly, how much can you handle before things get out of control? That will be a good gauge on how much mesc you can control.

LOL 90 grams of pedro isn't much man. IMO 50 to 60 of pedro is just a threshold dose, but, either way mescaline has alaways been a good trip and I have never had anything every be bad during a mescaline trip. For torch I would say 60 to 70 and for bridgesii 50 to 60, inbetween 80 to 90 is a good dose for pedro to get the full on effects of mescaline while not over powering you.
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I did notice that when I tried bridgesii, it did seem to be stronger than usual for pedro.
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I did notice that when I tried bridgesii, it did seem to be stronger than usual for pedro.


um, bro. Bridgesii isn't pedro man. Bridgesii has alot more akaliods in it than pedro does and produces more mescaline than pedro, not to mention that they are 2 entirly different breeds of cactus. Related in some respect but, nothing like each other.
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My bad, I was talking on the phone and typing at the same time. I meant stronger than pedro. I know they are different. Isnt there a thread somewhere showing the alkaloid content of the various cacti?
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My bad, I was talking on the phone and typing at the same time. I meant stronger than pedro. I know they are different. Isnt there a thread somewhere showing the alkaloid content of the various cacti?

Yeah, man I made it lol, its in the botanical sections,

http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...eus-cacti.html (Main Alkaliod Profiles of Trichocereus Cacti)
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I save the weed and sally for the comedown. It kicks the trip back in and is a totally different feeling. I went from earthy to alien in a few hits. Very good mix on the come down ime.
Also, without trying to sound vulgar, when I come down I am hornier than a 3 peckered billygoat.
Not to be vulgar but I can fuck myself to exhaustion on the cum down right after I eat that pussy!
I luv sex on mesc...
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Damn, you don't fuck around much do ya! He did say he wanted a good trip though. Hey zozo, if you dont mind me asking, if youve had shrooms before or regularly, how much can you handle before things get out of control? That will be a good gauge on how much mesc you can control.

Ye, I am doing shroom for the last 11-12 years most of the time I need like 5.5-6.5g but I tried 12g too ... it was to strong for me .. I am not a "big" guy Haaa.

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I will put the vaporizer close but I think I would like to feel the mescaline or better the pedro as it is for the first time.
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on a good mescaline trip I have found weed feels very forgien to me. Perhaps thats just me but, I couldn't agree with oblivion more, your first expereince leave out the MJ till you are coming down nicely.


Honestly with pedro I would shoot for 90 grams man, that will get you started nicely and give you a very good feel for mesc man. Shouldn't overwhelm you but, should damn sure let you know its there.
Hey Irish thanks , I got the point but remember I am not you
But I will get more pedro in this weekend so I will have 120g all together. I will do the drink with 70-80g or maybe I will be brave to go for the 90's

I am going to do it in the nearest holiday (here it's Passover) so I will have two free days to recover, I will let you know how it was.


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