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Old 04-16-09, 02:19   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Sad Day Burnt DMT Extn

My good friend whom I mentored in the simple arts of l'extraction de mimosa root bark made a sad mistake. After first initial acid pull from bark and filtration process, he was reducing down in another pot to save jar space. We'll he "stepped out of the house, and it reduced faster than it had been earlier" and he came back to find a nice pot of semi crispy semi extremely thick resonous goop. Smelled burnt.

Now a few questions hopefully someone can help me out with.
Did the DMT get distroyed? Maybe DMT n oxide?
Does anyone know the physical properties of DMT in salt form?

I volunteered for, and am in the middle of a salvage mission. Should know in a few days, and will post results. It wasn't being blasted for too long I speculate because it didn't all dry out completely.

The other 3 washed yielded a 0.45% yeild which means that there should be a nice chunk of goodies in the first pull if this works.
I'm hoping for the best.
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Old 04-16-09, 02:35   #2 (permalink)
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Aw man,
Sorry to hear that dude
Brings a tear to my eye

What acid was your friend using?
I'm not sure about the vaporization temperature of DMT salts,
If it had been freebase, it would definitely be gone though

It might be salvageable
Couldn't hurt to try...
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Old 04-16-09, 03:01   #3 (permalink)
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According to TIKHAL,
The melting point of DMT HCL is 165-167*C

Hope this helps.
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Old 04-16-09, 11:10   #4 (permalink)
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definitely go for the salvage, IME dmt salts are much heartier than they get credit for. I once did the same thing only much worse, it was on high for literally hours after all the water was gone, it was crisspy crunnchy ash flakes, not a hint of goopiness to it, I figured what the hell, did 3 water pulls on the ash as tho it were bark and then proceeded like it never happened, still got .7-.8% yield, thats not bad considering.
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Old 04-16-09, 12:21   #5 (permalink)
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He was using ascorbic.. But ya I redissolved it in dH2O with acid and boiled it similar to a bark pull, fridge decanted, washed sediment (twice), kept all the liquid and should have it all done by tomorrow. We'll see, sounds like it should be o.k. to some extent.
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Old 04-18-09, 21:59   #6 (permalink)
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SWIM did it once, but he just added more water to dissolve as much as he could, and he caught it before it got too black. It didn't affect his yield much. If it was really burnt, it might, but if it was just evaporated down to a gooey mess, with just a little burnt, it'll probably work fine. Just dissolve what's left in water as best one can, then proceed.
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Old 04-19-09, 00:12   #7 (permalink)
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Sad day indeed, if it is lost. I hope you are able to salvage it. Good luck!!
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Wow indeed, the salt form is extremely stable. Basically the only hard part is redissolving it. Total yield even with burning the first bark pull came out to 3.3g light light light yellow, and 4.1g just a little bit more yellow. I still can't believe he got 1.2%
He was able to salvage 4.1g from the burnt!
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Sweet. That's fantastic info..........thanks for passing it along. Great news for the stoned and forgetful ; that realization of..."whats that burning smell?" OMFG...I just gelled and the mad dash to see smoke rising from your pot. Many of us have been there.......it's a reality for us chronic potheads.

Glad the outcome was in your favor. This gives hope to the wouldbe adventurer who had ONE too many hits .

A+ INFO HERE.

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Sweet. That's fantastic info..........thanks for passing it along. Great news for the stoned and forgetful ; that realization of..."whats that burning smell?" OMFG...I just gelled and the mad dash to see smoke rising from your pot. Many of us have been there.......it's a reality for us chronic potheads.

Glad the outcome was in your favor. This gives hope to the wouldbe adventurer who had ONE too many hits .

A+ INFO HERE.

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I have been pretty lucky/careful doing extractions because of all the warnings and stories here, but I can't tell you how many times I have had ISO alcohol evapping over a pot of boiling water ( making ISO hash oil ) and after checking every 5 mins or so, forget for a few until I smell that smell of hot hash oil and it's like Oh MY GOD!
Matter of fact, that is the main reason for the double boiler method. Heat the other way crisped more than one plate of oil. W/ the boiler I get a fwe minutes warning!

Glad you and SWIY were able to retrieve the goodies!
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I too have learned the hard way that any source of heat should not be left unwatched. Especially the microwave in my case.....long story short, put a firecracker in the microwaver for 15, took a shower, and came back to a kitchen full of smoke.

I feel your pain man.
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