How long is fridge-stored cactus tea good for?

[Om shanti]

Approximately, how many days would you say? I made some tea yesterday but my stomach hasn't been itself for a few days, perhaps because of a new exercise regimen, and I thought I better wait until it has recovered..
It was made according to mjshroomers method, so no acids added etc.

[procell]

Originally Posted by Om shanti

Approximately, how many days would you say? I made some tea yesterday

In the fridge it's good until you see mold on the top, usually a few weeks. To store longer, freeze it.

[Om shanti]

thanks!

I will not let it sit for more than a week though. Then I will just have to trip at the toilet if necessary. :-)

[Frequency]

Originally Posted by procell

In the fridge it's good until you see mold on the top, usually a few weeks. To store longer, freeze it.

Definitely. It's just like any other vegetable juice. Keep it in a bottle with a lid and it will keep around 2 weeks.

[Psoulocybe]

Are there any issues with freezing it?

[Frequency]

Originally Posted by Psoulocybe

Are there any issues with freezing it?

You may get a bid of sediment that settles out when you thaw it (depending on how well you filtered your tea) but you can stir it back up real good before you down it. No issues at all regarding potency.

[Shadowlord]

I concur w/ what others have said here. It is good in the fridge for a few weeks and will grow mold on it when it goes bad. ( should probably still be kept as it would still be good for extracting from )
As for freezing it, that should store it almost indefinitely as the cold willnot harm the mescaline itself. Now, how frozen tea tastes defrosted I don't know but then it doesn't taste all that good to begin with.

[Om shanti]

Thanks for the additional answers! I'm going on holiday and don't have a freezer, so I think I will put it in a jar and give it a treatment in the pressure cooker for an hour or so, then keep it 100% air tight in the fridge. Right now it's just sitting in the pot.

Should get me a freezer though.. I must be the only one in this country who is not homeless but doesn't have a freezer. ...

[surf.shaman]

I don't know if the pc is the best place for your cactus tea. I think you don't want it to exceed 180 degrees...

[Om shanti]

Thanks, but I prepared it by boiling in water, so it hsa been past 180 for approximately 3-4 hours. Anyway, my stomach found its inner peace and I managed to drink it down before going away so I never pc'ed it. It was a nice but very light dose. I had been planning to take 1g of pans on top of it, but after the cactus started working I wasn't in the mood for heavy tripping. All in all it provided for a very nice day, though slightly weird. :-)

[noglovenolove]

i figured i would bump this thread instead of starting a new thread...


the way i make my tea is i blend it with water and boil it at different temperatures. the first night i put it over low for like 8 hours, then i work my way up to a rolling boil which usually takes like three sessions to get there. i figure different alkoids get extracted at different temperatures. plus it cant hurt.

ive been alittle lazy lately and my question is i have 44lbs of cactus with some water. its already gone through one cooking session. and its been in there for five days, i dont see any mold or anything like that but it does smell different. so even if it does develop mold would i just be able to boil it and then consume it?

[Shroomette]

If it has mold on it or smells different I wouldn't consume it but, you can extract it like Shadowlord said.

[noglovenolove]

wow... that sux. and its coming from somebody with a shit load of rep.

jeez. i knew i shouldve gotten off my ass.

um, a question for you, are you and your views more on the conservative side when it comes to this stuff? just cuz i cant imagine throwing it out and im not comfortable with extractions outside of weed.

[noglovenolove]

its only been in the fridge for five days (uncovered in the same pot i boiled it in. pulp and water). i cant see any mold and while it does smell different it doesnt smell rancid. input please

[usagolden]

would an alcohol extraction work on some tea?
I imagine it would just fine

its a super easy extraction
look into it
it will only take a read to understand how to do [it]
and will be better than throwing out some good mesc
maybe even a little easier to consume

[noglovenolove]

pheww. i freaked myself out at the thought of wasting all of that pedro. i checked on it again and my fridge is so cold it had a thin layer of ice on the top... what i thought was mold on the side was cactus that got stuck to the side of the pot when it was cooking/reducing and it hardened, and the smell was just the difference between cooked cactus and cactus that had been just ground up.

felt like a close one.

[noglovenolove]

im sorry you guys. but i really need help. i wouldnt be this paranoid if it was just for me but its for six people. i did a search on google how long it takes for somethhing to mold in the fridge and i got this

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...e&aq=f&oq=&aqi=

i need some advice and opinions (like what you would do in this situation)

the pulp water mixture has been in the fridge for five going on six days.
left uncovered in the same pot i boiled it in. there was a thin layer of ice on the top of the water. the only thing that makes me nervous is on the side i cant tell if its mold or cactus pulp

would this kind of mold be deadly?

[noglovenolove]

small community

[Om shanti]

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Ooops, sorry, somehow I managed to not read the last few messages in the thread before replying, I hate it when that happens.....

[Om shanti]

ok, I think I am hallucinating on these messages, they seem to appear and disappear randomly.

When I finally drank my brew it was also 5 days after brewing. When you boil down the cactus tea I think there is always some cactus sticking to the sides of the pot.. at least there is for me. When your fridge is so cold that there is ice on your cactus I sincerely doubt any form of mold could have developed that fast. Also, consider that having boiled your brew for that long must have killed practically anything that was potentially alive in there. Not covering it is the one wrong decision. Having covered it would have been better, but I would personally think it is still fine.

IF there was any mold after just 5 days (and it's not even visible) it's highly unlikely (0.000...0001 I think) it would give anything else than an upset stomach. I recall seeing one report of some American Indians becoming sick after drinking peyote tea, but in that case the tea had been stored in the fridge for MONTHS, not days. But if I was positive there was mold on a brew (which you are not), then I would not serve it for anyone.

But I know the feeling of uncertainty, and I would also have been 100* more careful if brewing for others and not just for myself.

[noglovenolove]

thanks man i really appreciate it. last night i pulled an all nighter boiling it. i took it out of the pot and i scraped what i thought couldve been the mold because it was a slimier texture and a different shade of green compared to the rest of the stuff on the sides (which was hard). i left it on the spoon and let it dry out. it hardened like the rest of the pulp. the only thing that scared me was it was a different shade of green. but i remember the cactus seperating into different layers/shades of green after i pureed it and let the froth die down and let the mixture settle.

^if anything sounds fishy let me know, going to reduce the tea and put it in the freezer, so probably going to be week till we take it.

[Myc]

After only 5 or 6 days, I wouldn't worry too much.
It will have a flotilla or island of "fur" on the surface of the tea after the mold has matured. There is mold present in everything we eat. It just hasn't matured yet.

The human digestive tract is capable of dealing with most molds in small quantities - i.e. - if you can't see it floating on your tea.....you're probably OK. Ever cut the mold off of a block of cheese? Ever eat blue cheese?

If you wanna make sure you kill anything in it.......add some ginger root or garlic - natural anti-septics. The tea tastes like heck anyway, the herbs couldn't hurt it IMO.

[jimbojones]

Brewing tea with citric/tartaric acid mixture and a whole lot of pectic enzymes. ON day 6 and the mixture is foaming and I have to relieve the pressure as the enzyme breaks down the slimy cellulose. Tomorrow I'm going to boil it, blend it and add some more acid and enzyme and let it sit for a few more days before tarring it up.

[jimbojones]

Still no mold! Maybe the acid help keep it at bay.

[Om shanti]

But don't you think the citrus makes the taste even more horrific?

[jimbojones]

I'm going to A/B it, why not.

[jimbojones]

So far off 10 day old tea made w/ 300g of dry skins using acidicified water and Pectic enzymes, I'm pushing a little over 3 grams of sanches and have 1 or 2 more pulls to do. Hopefully the yeild will be an 8 ball of washed, white Mescaline HCL crystals.

No emusion issues, and solution settled in 2hrs or so, very fast. Until last pull (5 th) there was no emuslion layer at all and that was dealt with using a hot water bath, and cleared up over night. 6th pull I added some baking soda to try and keep it basic as I am out of lye and don't feel like making the trip to get some this far down the line.