Whatcha's Easy MHRB STB Extraction, Step by Step Pictorial

whatchamacallit · 09-05-09, 15:02

This pictorial has been made by SWIM and given to me with permission to post it. It has step by step pics, with added details for each caption, that should make a simple to follow tutorial, with every day items anyone can purchase locally, with the exception of perhaps the bark and lye.

The utensils are everyday items, and makeshift tools from beverage containers mostly. This tek includes the polar wash and epsom salt dry in great detail, so people may get their DMT smooth smoking and free of any residual lye.

The recrystallization will be added to this thread as soon as time permits, so please enjoy, and take precautions to be safe when handling lye and solvents, such as protective glasses and solvent gloves.

So here goes!

First, 1 lb of lye is added slowly to each gallon jug, that has been filled about halfway with cold tap water. To do this safely, SWIM places the jugs into a bathtub or sink, and runs cold water to go about halfway up the jugs. He makes sure that the water outside doesn't exceed the height of the water inside the jugs, or they will float and won't sit right in the sink or tub.

He then takes a 2 liter bottle that has the bottom cut off, and is clean and dry and places it into the top of the gallon jug. He slowly pours the lye in, about 1/3 of the lb at a time, then gives them a vigorous shake. He releases the pressure as they heat rapidly, and recaps it, then places it into the cold bath.

He shakes it more, and it heats again. Each time the jug begins to get hot, he sets it back into the cold bath, to keep the jug from getting soft. When the jug no longer heats when shaken, he adds the next bit of lye, until all the lye has been added to the half gallon of water in the jug. Once it is all added, he again shakes the crap out of it. He continues shaking and setting into the cold bath, until when shaken the jug no longer heats.

The jugs are removed from the cold bath. He takes his powdered MHRB as shown here and begins to weigh out 454 grams, or 1 lb of MHRB into a cup.

The 2 liter funnel is placed into the jug, and the MHRB is poured into the funnel. To make it easier to get the MHRB powder into the jug, he takes a butter knife and agitates the bark in the 2 liter, poking it down into the hole, so the hole is not clogged.

This pic shows after 1 lb of bark has been added to each 1 gallon jug, that is half filled with lye water.

Both jugs are shaken vigorously, as shown above.

The jugs are then topped off with a little bit more hot tap water, but allowing enough room for 400 mls of VM&P Naphtha, and room to shake and easily pour. By adding a bit more water at this stage, it allows the MHRB/lye/water to be a little thinner and not too sludgy.

These jugs are then left to sit in the heat bath for at least one hour, to allow any DMT freebase to be loosened from the tiny bark particles. The jugs are shaken periodically during the hour or so, and set back in the heat bath. Once the hour has passed, it's on to the next step..

Now, 400 mls of room temperature naphtha is measured using a quart jar, then funneled into each jug. The height of the naphtha in the jug is mentally noted, so one can easily tell when all the emulsions and bubbles have settled out of the shaken mixture.

Both jugs are shaken vigorously (one may want to not shake em so hard, but with this tek, separation still occurs fairly quickly, even when one shakes the beejesus out of them). These jugs were shaken vigorously several times, and placed in a heat bath, which consists of tap water in the plugged sink, as hot as it will go, and as high up on the jugs as possible, without overflowing the sink.

After about 20 minutes, one can see the layers slowly starting to separate. This is why the mental note is taken when waiting for separation, as the layers are easy to see, but the emulsion layer is harder to see through the opaque jugs. One needs to wait, and the heat bath helps, until the layers are totally separated, before trying to remove the naphtha layer, or they will not get it all out very easily..

In this case, after about 45 minutes or so, one can see they have separated nicely, and both layers are easily seen.

SWIM now takes a gatorade bottle, with the twist close type nozzle, and cuts the very bottom off of it. The bottle is rinsed out and the jugs of naphtha are slowly poured into the bottle, making sure the nozzle is twisted closed. By pouring slowly, one can manage to get very little MHRB sludge/water into the makeshift funnel.

Here one can see that a little bit of the MHRB/lye water solution has gotten into the funnel, along with the majority of the solvent. Leaving about an 1/8 inch or so of solvent isn't a big worry, because when doing 3-4 pulls, there will be very little DMT left in that tiny, thin layer.

The makeshift funnel is then held over the open jug, and the twist nozzle is opened slowly, to allow the majority of MHRB juice to drain back into the original jug. Sometimes the hole can clog a bit with bark particles, but the solvent can still be easily poured off the top of the flexible make shift funnel if this happens. The solvent is collected in a fresh jug for washing later.

If one pours the solvent off of the top of the makeshift funnel, slowly, they can watch the little bit of leftover MHRB juice go down the ridges of the makeshift funnel, and they can be sure not to get any of that into the solvent collecting jug.

It's better to just pour a fine layer of solvent back into the extraction jug, than to get the MHRB juice into the solvent collection jug, but if either happens, one will wash the solvent anyways, or will do more pulls on the extraction jug and can get the majority of solvent in the next pull.

Here you see that both jugs have been separated and the solvent layer from each combined into the collection jug. As stated, one can notice a fine layer of naphtha still floating on the MHRB juice, but more naphtha will be added for the next pull.

SWIM used fresh naphtha for his first pull, but for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th pulls, he uses naphtha that he had left from his last extraction. The DMT had been freeze precipitated out, and the used solvent was saved for the next extraction.

Here one can see that SWIM has added 400 mls more of the used solvent to each jug for beginning the second pull.

Both jugs again were shaken vigorously, then placed back into the heat bath, with fresh hot water added in the heat bath, and left for another 20 minutes or so to separate..

After about 20-30 minutes, one can again see the separation occurring in the jugs. Again, SWIM separates the solvent, using the makeshift separatory funnel made from the gatorade bottle. The solvent is collected into the collection jug again.

Here is the second pull separated and, once again, you will notice that there is still a small layer of naphtha floating on the MHRB juice. Again, not to worry, the 3rd and fourth pulls will be done, and on the 4th, extra care will be used to try and get the majority. However, an 1/8 inch of solvent, with very little DMT in it, is usually not worth the bother..

Here you will see another 400 mls of naphtha (again recycled from the previous extraction) added to both jugs, which are again shaken and placed into a heat bath.

Fresh water is again run to keep the heat bath hot, and to allow faster separation. This was the third pull, but separation took extra long in one of the jugs, and since it was getting late, he didn't wait for total separation, because he was in a hurry. However, one can add more lye if this happens, or they can just let it continue to sit in a heat bath until full separation occurs.

So, a fourth pull was added to the jug, after he got off the majority of solvent that he could from both jugs. He again shook them vigorously (which may have been the reason the one jug took so long to separate), then placed them in the heat bath and separated, as shown in the previous 3 pulls. SWIm will leave the fourth pull and separation out of the pictorial, since the photos above show the process easily. The next pic shows after all 4 pulls have been done and separated..

This shows what the jugs looked like after 4 pulls were done, and the solvent collected into the single collection jug. Again, you'll notice the one jug still having a bit of extra solvent that hasn't totally separated, and why it was good to take a mental note. SWIM decided that he was tired, and set the solvent jug in a heat bath, so DMT would not begin to precipitate out, and he set the two jugs back in as well, and called it a night.

The rest of the solvent that was taking long to separate out of the difficult jug, had finally separated out by morning, and so he removed the majority of it and added it to the solvent jug. This solvent was now ready to be washed and dried, then freeze precipitated.

Here you'll see, he has gathered his sodium carbonate (pH Plus) and his epsom salts, along with his jug of DMT filled solvent. He gets a jar for mixing the sodium carbonate and water, takes his makeshift sep funnel, his 2 liter funnel, and another gallon jug, and places them all into his work area.

One trick to the polar wash, is doing it all fairly quickly. By not allowing the water to sit in the solvent for long after it separates (which happens in seconds), it makes sure that DMT is not ionized and pulled back into the water. Sodium carbonate also raises the PH of the water to above 9, where the DMT also will not ionize quickly, if at all.

In a pinch, sodium bicarbonate could be used, but should also been done very quickly, so as not to lose yields, since it doesn't raise the pH as high as the carbonate does.

Here SWIM pours a thin layer of sodium carbonate into the jar. He then runs hot tap water into the jar and looks at the bottom of the jar, sometimes giving it a good stir, to just dissolve all the sodium carbonate.

The wash water will look cloudy after first being mixed, but if left to settle for a few minutes, it will get clearer, and one can try to add a bit more sodium carbonate, to make sure it is saturated. If one can test the pH, just be sure that the pH of the water is 9 or 10 at least.

Here one can see that SWIM has poured a small amount of the sodium carbonate water into the sep funnel.

The sodium carbonate water is then drained into the solvent jug and shaken vigorously. The separation occurs within seconds.

When the separation occurs, one will see the dark orange water layer. This is your polar impurities that were left in your solvent. Looks pretty nasty, right? That's why we want to do this wash, to pull out some of that color, and any residual lye.

The majority of the solvent is poured from one jug, into a new jug.

When the majority is poured off, one can see the water layer getting close to the nozzle. This mixture is then poured into the makeshift gatorade sep funnel.

Another photo to show the separation closer..

Here you'll see the mix poured into the sep funnel, and the bottom wash water layer is drained out, and the remaining solvent added back to the jug.

The second wash is performed in the same way. The sodium carbonate water is placed into the funnel again.

Here you can see it again being drained into the solvent jug.

The jug has been shaken vigorously again and has settled. It is hard to see the tiny water layer in this pic, especially with the opaque jug, but if you look closely, you may be able to see it..

Again, the majority of solvent is poured off the top, back into the other jug.

SWIM has stopped pouring when he sees the water layer getting close, then transfers the mix back into his sep funnel. You see that all the color has been removed, and the water is clear.

Here you can see the separation clearer, and how the wash water is much cleaner than in the first wash.

Now, SWIM takes a tiny bit of cold tap water (pictured here) to do one more final wash. This one is the one that should be done quickly, because the PH of the water has not been adjusted with anything. SWIM's tap water comes out to a pH of about 7.5-8, but if left to sit in the naphtha, could ionize DMT. This is why just a tiny amount is used for a large amount of solvent, and why it is done quickly. Also, if there had been any carbonate or lye left in the solvent, this plain water wash will collect that, raising the PH of the water, and lowering the PH of the solvent. This ensures there will be no residual lye or contaminants in the final DMT. One could test this final cold tap water wash before and after to see how much lye is removed..

Here you see the cold tap water wash being drained into the solvent, for the final, plain, cold tap water wash.

Again, this is shaken vigorously, and it separates within seconds, although one can barely see the water layer. The majority of solvent is again poured into the other jug, until a small amount of solvent and the water layer are left. This is again poured into the makeshift sep funnel, and separated as shown in each previous step.

The water layer is discarded again, and the solvent returned to the solvent collection jug.

Here you can see some everyday epsom salts, purchasable from any local grocery or drug store.

A thin layer is poured onto a microwave safe plate.

Here you can see it is spread thinly over the plate. This is placed into the microwave on 5-10 minute on high to cook all the moisture out of the espom salt.

After cooking it, you can see it is very white and crispy, and is stuck to the plate. NOTICE the oven mitt, the plate will be extremely hot, so handle with care. The cooked epsom salts are chipped away from the plate with a butter knife, and care is used so one does not get burnt by the hot plate.

Here you can see the epsom salt chipped away, and then SWIM uses his fist or something hard to grind the chunks to a bit more powdery, with some chunks, as well..

The powder and chunks are added to the jug. SWIM doesn't measure, but just adds a few pinchfuls to the solvent, then he shakes it vigorously, so all the moisture that was left in the jug is soaked up and so no water can be seen in the bottom of the jug. This is left to settle, which also happens within seconds..

Here you can see the espom salts collected in the bottom of the jug and all the moisture has been soaked up.

The 2 liter funnel is upturned into a fresh, dry, clean jug, and a coffee filter is placed inside, to catch any epsom salt that falls out when pouring it into the fresh clean jug..

Here you can see the solvent has been poured through the filter slowly, and any epsom salt is caught in the coffee filter..

Here is the jug, now washed and dried, in a fresh, dry, clean jug, which is now ready to be placed in the freezer for anywhere from 12-72 hours. By waiting longer, the DMT settles out much better, and does not float in the solvent. This helps when pouring the solvent off the crystals slowly, into another jug, to be saved for future extractions..

Here one can see the DMT settling out of the solvent that has been in the freezer for about 18 hours or so..

Here is a large photo taken after the majority of solvent is poured off into a jug for later use. The top is then cut off of the jug, to reveal the huge pile of slightly yellow DMT, with tiny bit of residual solvent.

This is the DMT after the solvent has dried up and the DMT has been scraped out of the jug. This chunky DMT is now spread thinly onto a glass baking dish, and chopped up finely, then placed in front of a box fan to continue drying completely.

Once the solvent smell is gone and the crystals are thoroughly dried, they were placed back on the scale to show the yield and results..

So there you have it folks, a complete step by step pictorial of a simple STB, plus polar wash, and epsom salt dry, that anyone should be able to complete easily. This is what SWIM did, precisely, and got 17.1 grams of slightly yellow DMT, that will be recrystallized in days to come.

He'll take pics of the recrystallization procedure as well, then add them to this thread when he gets around to it. Until then, you'll have to go by the text in other threads..

Hope this helps clear up any questions, and shows exactly how simple the extraction is. No need for any extensive chemistry knowledge, and everything is easily found in most any neighborhood.

Use it wisely, and stay safe people!! Don't forget to share your DMT experiences and revelations here at Mycotopia, the best forum on the internet!!

Om shanti · 09-05-09, 15:04

Awesome stuff, thanks!

eastwood · 09-05-09, 15:13

17g Wow! Great tek whatcha.Thanks for taking the time to put this thread together.Im looking forward to seeing how swim goes about recrystallizing the spice.

real_psily · 09-05-09, 16:22

Damn Watcha that is 3.7+% yield!!

I can't tell how yellow that spice is by the pic, but looks good.
I'm sure it will look like glass when re-xtalized.

whatchamacallit · 09-05-09, 18:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by real_psily

Damn Watcha that is 3.7+% yield!!

I can't tell how yellow that spice is by the pic, but looks good.
I'm sure it will look like glass when re-xtalized.

Not 3.7%. That was 908 grams of bark, give or take... He would have done the whole kilo, but figured since he only had two bottles of lye, he should just do it pound for pound.. The yield was 17.1 grams. So it would technically be 1.8832599118942731277533039647577 % (1.9%)

But we'll settle for probably a little over a half ounce of clear/white crystals, at least.. That is enough DMT to last for years. SWIM can play around a bit recrystallizing, maybe even a few times, as slow as possible, to get some really pretty, large, clear crystals and keep the concentrated yellow/orange stuff to get hard and crystallize, as well..

Raziel · 09-05-09, 19:02

So friggen jealous

Nice picterial whatchamacallit

real_psily · 09-05-09, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatchamacallit

Not 3.7%. That was 908 grams of bark, give or take...

LMFAO
read too quick and saw 454
I see you did that x2
Still nice work

buteo · 09-05-09, 22:32

good work whatcha ....thank you for this !

whatchamacallit · 09-05-09, 22:44

Here is number 31 in the proper size, but it's too late for me to add it to the post. However, if anyone can make this into a pdf file with the captions and photos in the right place, here is number 31, done to about the same size as the other photos, in the thread, so this one could be exchanged for the number 31 in the original post.

LotRev · 09-06-09, 06:52

Bad-Fucking-Ass my friend.

Nice pictorial...so we don't need anymore DMT discussion eh,
you've got it all covered now?

Really, excellent job Whatcha, thank you for posting this.
I bet it starts popping up all over the place.

eatyualive · 09-06-09, 13:48

wow very nice. im gonna have to give this another go.

Shadowlord · 09-06-09, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by eatyualive

wow very nice. im gonna have to give this another go.

If you had less than great results b4 then definitely try again Eats.
I had more trouble working w/ DMT than I did mescaline at frist, but after you have run the MHRB extraction a few times you just get the knack for it and it all starts to work for you.
I still don't smoke DMT often but it is amazing stuff when the mood strikes.
Good luck Eats and to anyone else contemplating extracting.

Shadowlord · 09-06-09, 13:59

And great thread BTW Whatcha.
Yours is what I envisioned mine to be a while back. But I just wasn't anywhere near as thorough.
Some fine work. I'm sure we'll be seeing your work pop up all over the place.

LotRev · 09-06-09, 16:46

Hey Whatcha, I did just a tad of clean up and formatting and made this thing into a pdf.
The file is attached for anyone to download and share.

ok, added a title, didn't know if you wanted your name on it

(this is the highest quality it can be done and uploaded here)

whatchamacallit · 09-06-09, 17:06

AWESOME!!!

Thank you very much!! That looks excellent, would be nice with a title, though, but that is awesome!! Distribute it freely!!!

Calaquendi · 09-06-09, 23:10

Excellent work brother!

Great pictorial, you really nail it good. Thanks for the wicked thread, informative and comprehensive... hat's off man!

usagolden · 09-07-09, 01:15

nice write up
will be using it myself

whatchamacallit · 09-07-09, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by LotRev

ok, added a title, didn't know if you wanted your name on it

(this is the highest quality it can be done and uploaded here)

Looks great! I don't mind the credit so much here on topia, but I suppose, if it's gonna be distributed all over the internet (hope it is), then perhaps leaving my nym off, isn't such a bad idea. Never mind credit from my friends here at topia, but I don't need any credit from the DEA, LOL..

door#6 · 09-07-09, 15:26

would these chrystals be active if dosed orally?
would taking an maoi before smoking effect durration
of trip?

Fly on the Wall · 09-07-09, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by door#6

would these chrystals be active if dosed orally?
would taking an maoi before smoking effect durration
of trip?

The MAOI is necessary for DMT to be taken orally. I believe that the MAOI also potentiates smoked DMT, but don't quote me on that.

rocketman · 09-07-09, 17:43

archive material when thread slows

EmmisonJ · 09-07-09, 18:49

Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kcmoxtractor · 09-07-09, 19:55

Beautiful whatcha, just beautiful. I think I'm gonna follow your tek when I get my bark in.

gardentoad · 09-08-09, 12:37

This looks greeat. Does it mean hat I have been using too much water? I have been using one half lb. bark per gallon of lye water so that it isn't too sludgy. I have had successful extractions but with no where near the results that you have shown us. I would love to get similiar results. Thank you.

Oblivion · 09-08-09, 14:59

Nice, very nice.

whatchamacallit · 09-08-09, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by gardentoad

This looks greeat. Does it mean hat I have been using too much water? I have been using one half lb. bark per gallon of lye water so that it isn't too sludgy. I have had successful extractions but with no where near the results that you have shown us. I would love to get similiar results. Thank you.

Using more water probably doesn't hurt, but SWIM's tek works terrific for him. He also is sure to use reputable sources of known quality bark. Yields can vary from batch to batch, or vendor to vendor, especially. This bark was from Mexico, and had been reported by several others to be of outstanding quality. BBB usually has pretty good quality bark, though, and they are in the US, so no dealing with customs.

sweetjames · 09-09-09, 11:47

I see that 400 ml of naphtha was used for each pull, is this necessary to use that much each time? It seems that most people talk of using lesser amounts per pull, like 100 ml, so there is less to evaporate. Is it better to use larger amounts of naphtha?

LotRev · 09-09-09, 12:13

The naphtha was not evaporated here.

Yes, use 400 ml. As you can see, it works great.

Welcome to Mycotopia!

whatchamacallit · 09-09-09, 12:15

Well, first of all, using only 100 mls of naphtha for trying to pull out DMT from 454 grams of MHRB, one may only pull out a gram or two, and on top of that, it's damn near impossible to separate 100 mls of solvent from the top of the water. The solvent layer must be large enough to pour or suction off the top.

I believe I have read that 100 mls of naphtha will only hold around a gram. The expected yield off of 1 lb of MHRB, is gonna be 3-10 grams (depending on bark quality) so a minimum of 1000 ml should be used to ensure that one can get all the DMT out of the solvent. Teks that use less solvent, are usually when doing a much smaller extraction, but as stated, it's damn near impossible to separate 100 mls of solvent from a water layer. I'd suggest sticking to this tek as written, and if only doing half the amount of MHRB, then the ingredients can be halved (although, the water amount can be greater, as long as the MHRB/lye/water layer isn't thick and sludgy).

Also, if one uses excess naphtha, then it can be evaporated a bit, until it gets cloudy/milky white, then it can be freeze precipitated. By freeze precipitating, one will be able to reuse the solvent on the next next extraction, and the end results will come out cleaner. SWIM would suggest using 100 mls of naphtha for each gram of expected yield of DMT. Using any less will be hard to separate, or will reduce the yield.

SWIM took detailed photos, with the explanation, so this tek could be copied exactly, to get the same results. If one decides not to follow the instructions as written, then all kinds of mistakes or differences in the end result may occur. This makes it extremely hard to figure out where one went wrong. SWIM would suggest learning the process by following a proven method and once that is understood, tweaking one element of the extraction at a time, can give one results to compare. When changing up a few steps, it gives many more possibilities for where the results come out different. By changing up one element at a time, one can pinpoint where exactly the change occured, and then can note the difference in results.

SWIM has been extracting DMT for 6 years, at least, and so he has tried all kinds of variations, until he found the best techniques for completing the extraction, to get the best results. When SWIM started, QT's Tek was the only one really available on the internet, and he has since tweaked out the tek, adding steps and eliminating extra steps, to make the simplest, cleanest, smoothest DMT, with the least amount of work. If one chooses to experiment, SWIM thinks that one'll soon see the reason that this tek is written the way it is, as all the steps have been tweaked to get the best reults..

sweetjames · 09-09-09, 12:35

Thanks for such a quick reply. SWIM planned on following it exactly, he was just trying to understand as he has only been researching this for a few days.

whatchamacallit · 09-09-09, 12:54

BTW, one could use 250-300 mls of naphtha per pull, if one has a limited amount of naphtha. More pulls could be done with smaller amounts, as well. SWIM has seen people do 5-6 pulls, and even got a lil extra DMT on those pulls, but there comes a point of more work with diminishing results.

One could continue to do pulls on the naphtha until they get no DMT precipitating, to be sure they get all the DMT, but after 4 pulls, SWIM feels that he has 90-95% of the DMT, so doing more work, for under a half a gram (or less), is often not worth it to SWIM.

Jawn · 09-09-09, 13:40

Great idea, using the Gatorade bottle as a sep funnel.

Frequency · 09-09-09, 14:07

Nice job Whatcha!

An excellent addition to the literature! Awesome pictorial too. I love chem pr0n

Spice on the inside, clean on the outside. DMT paint job!

Irishlion · 09-09-09, 14:16

Archieve Material DMT spice

sweetjames · 09-10-09, 11:17

Also, if this is SWIM's first time, would you recommend using only a 1/2 lb of MHRB first to get the hang of it or just go for the whole lb?

whatchamacallit · 09-10-09, 14:18

Well, using half wouldn't be a bad idea for practicing, however, SWIM thinks it's easy enough to follow exactly, so one can get similar results if it is followed to the letter. If you don't feel like doing it a few times, then doing the whole shebang shouldn't be a problem, and as long as one doesn't discard anything until they have all their crystals, even if you mess up, we can help you find it and get it out of there.

The tek was photoed while 2 jugs with a lb each were done, and seeing over a half ounce of DMT in the bottom of the jug just looks amazing. It is nice to perform large extractions because the results look remarkably impressive from larger amounts, and if recrystallization is planned, then it's also much easier to recrystallize a large amount.

headcase · 09-12-09, 03:38

SWIM did this tek tonight. Four pulls, each pull spaced one hour from the last for easy pouring. She said that the gatorade bottle works even better than her gravy seperator. Used one pound of bark. Her favorite part was pulling the polar impurities with the Sodium Carbonate. The jug is in her freezer, she said she'd let me know how it turns out.

whatchamacallit · 09-12-09, 09:53

Welcome to Mycotopia, headcase, can't wait to hear how your friends results turn out!!

tenjin · 09-12-09, 19:38

This is an awesome pictorial tek and thx for contributing Whatcha.

A friend recently tried this tek out and got almost all white crystals without cleaning. This was cool but kinda baffled me because I've always seen it yellow before cleaning with a STB extraction. It was same source of MHRB, but their MHRB was kept in a freezer for a couple months.

whatchamacallit · 09-12-09, 21:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenjin

This is an awesome pictorial tek and thx for contributing Whatcha.

A friend recently tried this tek out and got almost all white crystals without cleaning. This was cool but kinda baffled me because I've always seen it yellow before cleaning with a STB extraction. It was same source of MHRB, but their MHRB was kept in a freezer for a couple months.

The polar wash does clean out a good bit of color, and on smaller extractions, the DMT can freeze precipitate white. The larger extractions still seem to come out a bit yellow, but recrystallization isn't very tough and can make it as pure as can be.

Leftover Salmon · 09-13-09, 04:17

Ok, first off, very nice write up fellow deadhead. My question to you is; what significance does re-crystallization hold and could one stop here and have pleasant results in use? Again good job and thank you.

whatchamacallit · 09-13-09, 05:57

It's fine to use as is, it's fairly smooth, and all traces of lye have been removed, but if one wants even more pure, white/clear DMT, then recrystallization can provide that. The yellow is actually preferred by some, while the white/clear is preferred by others. Perhaps trying both is the best bet to find out which one you prefer.

kcmoxtractor · 09-13-09, 13:49

For me the yellow works out really nicely, because it is hard to measure a dosage of white without very accurate scales, and such a small amount makes such a big change

headcase · 09-13-09, 23:27

So SWIM ending up yielding about 4 grams of yellowish spice. There's also about 2 grams of yellow/brown spice, so SWIM didn't quite get all those impurities out of the wash. She sprinkled about 35 mg of the yellow brown stuff on some cannabis just to make sure it was worth keeping. It certainly was.

She had previously used bark from the same supply for Nomans and lazyman's tek, with piss poor results. To top it all off, she put the filtered naptha back in the freezer, and she just checked 20 minutes ago and there is even more spice in there.

She wanted me to tell you guys that this was such an easy tek to follow. The hardest part for sure was the time consuming process of getting all that spice out of there.

When SWIM needs bark again she'll get it from her friend's supplier next time, because she's heard reports of more than 2% yields.

She says thanks whatcha!

TheFreak · 09-14-09, 15:46

great tek. where could one buy mimosa hostilis root bark. any suggest sponsor or place to buy from?

whatchamacallit · 09-14-09, 16:50

Check the sponsors page, there are a couple botanical places.

sweetjames · 09-14-09, 19:01

SWIM performed this tek last night, and started the freeze precip at about 10 pm. It has been in there for about 20 hours now and barely any crystals are forming at the bottom.
New naphtha was used for every pull and the solvent did not look as dark yellow as the ones from the pictorial. Everything was followed exactly...what could be the problem? Or does my friend just need to wait longer?

P4ulada · 09-14-09, 19:55

Wowo dude, awesome work!!!!
Thanks

whatchamacallit · 09-15-09, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetjames

SWIM performed this tek last night, and started the freeze precip at about 10 pm. It has been in there for about 20 hours now and barely any crystals are forming at the bottom.
New naphtha was used for every pull and the solvent did not look as dark yellow as the ones from the pictorial. Everything was followed exactly...what could be the problem? Or does my friend just need to wait longer?

Were the exact ratios used or the same amounts, even? Also, when one says barely any crystals, does that mean some have precipitated out? Using fresh solvent for each pull is fine, SWIM just reused old solvent because he had it.

Also, depends on how cold one's freezer gets, for pulling out all the DMT. After you recover the crystals, and weigh them, and give a little more details about the amounts used, perhaps we can figure out if there is a problem or where one went wrong.

BTW, the quality of MHRB can vary a good bit, and the yield SWIM got is pretty exceptional, due to finding an extremely high alkaloid batch of MHRB. 1% is considered pretty decent usually, and sometimes .5% is all that's achieved from lower quality bark. SWIM has rarely ever gotten less than .5% even on low quality bark.

sweetjames · 09-15-09, 11:25

SWIM followed the steps exactly, using 1 lb of mhrb to 1 lb of lye. SWIM just poured the solvent off and there was basically nothing in the jug...Could the mhrb have been fake or of extremely low quality? SWIM still has the MHRB/lye/water mix and is going to try some pulls again and see if it will extract anything...Any ideas of what could have gone wrong?

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09-05-09, 15:02	#1 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	Whatcha's Easy MHRB STB Extraction, Step by Step Pictorial This pictorial has been made by SWIM and given to me with permission to post it. It has step by step pics, with added details for each caption, that should make a simple to follow tutorial, with every day items anyone can purchase locally, with the exception of perhaps the bark and lye. The utensils are everyday items, and makeshift tools from beverage containers mostly. This tek includes the polar wash and epsom salt dry in great detail, so people may get their DMT smooth smoking and free of any residual lye. The recrystallization will be added to this thread as soon as time permits, so please enjoy, and take precautions to be safe when handling lye and solvents, such as protective glasses and solvent gloves. So here goes! First, 1 lb of lye is added slowly to each gallon jug, that has been filled about halfway with cold tap water. To do this safely, SWIM places the jugs into a bathtub or sink, and runs cold water to go about halfway up the jugs. He makes sure that the water outside doesn't exceed the height of the water inside the jugs, or they will float and won't sit right in the sink or tub. He then takes a 2 liter bottle that has the bottom cut off, and is clean and dry and places it into the top of the gallon jug. He slowly pours the lye in, about 1/3 of the lb at a time, then gives them a vigorous shake. He releases the pressure as they heat rapidly, and recaps it, then places it into the cold bath. He shakes it more, and it heats again. Each time the jug begins to get hot, he sets it back into the cold bath, to keep the jug from getting soft. When the jug no longer heats when shaken, he adds the next bit of lye, until all the lye has been added to the half gallon of water in the jug. Once it is all added, he again shakes the crap out of it. He continues shaking and setting into the cold bath, until when shaken the jug no longer heats. The jugs are removed from the cold bath. He takes his powdered MHRB as shown here and begins to weigh out 454 grams, or 1 lb of MHRB into a cup. The 2 liter funnel is placed into the jug, and the MHRB is poured into the funnel. To make it easier to get the MHRB powder into the jug, he takes a butter knife and agitates the bark in the 2 liter, poking it down into the hole, so the hole is not clogged. This pic shows after 1 lb of bark has been added to each 1 gallon jug, that is half filled with lye water. Both jugs are shaken vigorously, as shown above. The jugs are then topped off with a little bit more hot tap water, but allowing enough room for 400 mls of VM&P Naphtha, and room to shake and easily pour. By adding a bit more water at this stage, it allows the MHRB/lye/water to be a little thinner and not too sludgy. These jugs are then left to sit in the heat bath for at least one hour, to allow any DMT freebase to be loosened from the tiny bark particles. The jugs are shaken periodically during the hour or so, and set back in the heat bath. Once the hour has passed, it's on to the next step.. Now, 400 mls of room temperature naphtha is measured using a quart jar, then funneled into each jug. The height of the naphtha in the jug is mentally noted, so one can easily tell when all the emulsions and bubbles have settled out of the shaken mixture. Both jugs are shaken vigorously (one may want to not shake em so hard, but with this tek, separation still occurs fairly quickly, even when one shakes the beejesus out of them). These jugs were shaken vigorously several times, and placed in a heat bath, which consists of tap water in the plugged sink, as hot as it will go, and as high up on the jugs as possible, without overflowing the sink. After about 20 minutes, one can see the layers slowly starting to separate. This is why the mental note is taken when waiting for separation, as the layers are easy to see, but the emulsion layer is harder to see through the opaque jugs. One needs to wait, and the heat bath helps, until the layers are totally separated, before trying to remove the naphtha layer, or they will not get it all out very easily.. In this case, after about 45 minutes or so, one can see they have separated nicely, and both layers are easily seen. SWIM now takes a gatorade bottle, with the twist close type nozzle, and cuts the very bottom off of it. The bottle is rinsed out and the jugs of naphtha are slowly poured into the bottle, making sure the nozzle is twisted closed. By pouring slowly, one can manage to get very little MHRB sludge/water into the makeshift funnel. Here one can see that a little bit of the MHRB/lye water solution has gotten into the funnel, along with the majority of the solvent. Leaving about an 1/8 inch or so of solvent isn't a big worry, because when doing 3-4 pulls, there will be very little DMT left in that tiny, thin layer. The makeshift funnel is then held over the open jug, and the twist nozzle is opened slowly, to allow the majority of MHRB juice to drain back into the original jug. Sometimes the hole can clog a bit with bark particles, but the solvent can still be easily poured off the top of the flexible make shift funnel if this happens. The solvent is collected in a fresh jug for washing later. If one pours the solvent off of the top of the makeshift funnel, slowly, they can watch the little bit of leftover MHRB juice go down the ridges of the makeshift funnel, and they can be sure not to get any of that into the solvent collecting jug. It's better to just pour a fine layer of solvent back into the extraction jug, than to get the MHRB juice into the solvent collection jug, but if either happens, one will wash the solvent anyways, or will do more pulls on the extraction jug and can get the majority of solvent in the next pull. Here you see that both jugs have been separated and the solvent layer from each combined into the collection jug. As stated, one can notice a fine layer of naphtha still floating on the MHRB juice, but more naphtha will be added for the next pull. SWIM used fresh naphtha for his first pull, but for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th pulls, he uses naphtha that he had left from his last extraction. The DMT had been freeze precipitated out, and the used solvent was saved for the next extraction. Here one can see that SWIM has added 400 mls more of the used solvent to each jug for beginning the second pull. Both jugs again were shaken vigorously, then placed back into the heat bath, with fresh hot water added in the heat bath, and left for another 20 minutes or so to separate.. After about 20-30 minutes, one can again see the separation occurring in the jugs. Again, SWIM separates the solvent, using the makeshift separatory funnel made from the gatorade bottle. The solvent is collected into the collection jug again. Here is the second pull separated and, once again, you will notice that there is still a small layer of naphtha floating on the MHRB juice. Again, not to worry, the 3rd and fourth pulls will be done, and on the 4th, extra care will be used to try and get the majority. However, an 1/8 inch of solvent, with very little DMT in it, is usually not worth the bother.. Here you will see another 400 mls of naphtha (again recycled from the previous extraction) added to both jugs, which are again shaken and placed into a heat bath. Fresh water is again run to keep the heat bath hot, and to allow faster separation. This was the third pull, but separation took extra long in one of the jugs, and since it was getting late, he didn't wait for total separation, because he was in a hurry. However, one can add more lye if this happens, or they can just let it continue to sit in a heat bath until full separation occurs. So, a fourth pull was added to the jug, after he got off the majority of solvent that he could from both jugs. He again shook them vigorously (which may have been the reason the one jug took so long to separate), then placed them in the heat bath and separated, as shown in the previous 3 pulls. SWIm will leave the fourth pull and separation out of the pictorial, since the photos above show the process easily. The next pic shows after all 4 pulls have been done and separated.. This shows what the jugs looked like after 4 pulls were done, and the solvent collected into the single collection jug. Again, you'll notice the one jug still having a bit of extra solvent that hasn't totally separated, and why it was good to take a mental note. SWIM decided that he was tired, and set the solvent jug in a heat bath, so DMT would not begin to precipitate out, and he set the two jugs back in as well, and called it a night. The rest of the solvent that was taking long to separate out of the difficult jug, had finally separated out by morning, and so he removed the majority of it and added it to the solvent jug. This solvent was now ready to be washed and dried, then freeze precipitated. Here you'll see, he has gathered his sodium carbonate (pH Plus) and his epsom salts, along with his jug of DMT filled solvent. He gets a jar for mixing the sodium carbonate and water, takes his makeshift sep funnel, his 2 liter funnel, and another gallon jug, and places them all into his work area. One trick to the polar wash, is doing it all fairly quickly. By not allowing the water to sit in the solvent for long after it separates (which happens in seconds), it makes sure that DMT is not ionized and pulled back into the water. Sodium carbonate also raises the PH of the water to above 9, where the DMT also will not ionize quickly, if at all. In a pinch, sodium bicarbonate could be used, but should also been done very quickly, so as not to lose yields, since it doesn't raise the pH as high as the carbonate does. Here SWIM pours a thin layer of sodium carbonate into the jar. He then runs hot tap water into the jar and looks at the bottom of the jar, sometimes giving it a good stir, to just dissolve all the sodium carbonate. The wash water will look cloudy after first being mixed, but if left to settle for a few minutes, it will get clearer, and one can try to add a bit more sodium carbonate, to make sure it is saturated. If one can test the pH, just be sure that the pH of the water is 9 or 10 at least. Here one can see that SWIM has poured a small amount of the sodium carbonate water into the sep funnel. The sodium carbonate water is then drained into the solvent jug and shaken vigorously. The separation occurs within seconds. When the separation occurs, one will see the dark orange water layer. This is your polar impurities that were left in your solvent. Looks pretty nasty, right? That's why we want to do this wash, to pull out some of that color, and any residual lye. The majority of the solvent is poured from one jug, into a new jug. When the majority is poured off, one can see the water layer getting close to the nozzle. This mixture is then poured into the makeshift gatorade sep funnel. Another photo to show the separation closer.. Here you'll see the mix poured into the sep funnel, and the bottom wash water layer is drained out, and the remaining solvent added back to the jug. The second wash is performed in the same way. The sodium carbonate water is placed into the funnel again. Here you can see it again being drained into the solvent jug. The jug has been shaken vigorously again and has settled. It is hard to see the tiny water layer in this pic, especially with the opaque jug, but if you look closely, you may be able to see it.. Again, the majority of solvent is poured off the top, back into the other jug. SWIM has stopped pouring when he sees the water layer getting close, then transfers the mix back into his sep funnel. You see that all the color has been removed, and the water is clear. Here you can see the separation clearer, and how the wash water is much cleaner than in the first wash. Now, SWIM takes a tiny bit of cold tap water (pictured here) to do one more final wash. This one is the one that should be done quickly, because the PH of the water has not been adjusted with anything. SWIM's tap water comes out to a pH of about 7.5-8, but if left to sit in the naphtha, could ionize DMT. This is why just a tiny amount is used for a large amount of solvent, and why it is done quickly. Also, if there had been any carbonate or lye left in the solvent, this plain water wash will collect that, raising the PH of the water, and lowering the PH of the solvent. This ensures there will be no residual lye or contaminants in the final DMT. One could test this final cold tap water wash before and after to see how much lye is removed.. Here you see the cold tap water wash being drained into the solvent, for the final, plain, cold tap water wash. Again, this is shaken vigorously, and it separates within seconds, although one can barely see the water layer. The majority of solvent is again poured into the other jug, until a small amount of solvent and the water layer are left. This is again poured into the makeshift sep funnel, and separated as shown in each previous step. The water layer is discarded again, and the solvent returned to the solvent collection jug. Here you can see some everyday epsom salts, purchasable from any local grocery or drug store. A thin layer is poured onto a microwave safe plate. Here you can see it is spread thinly over the plate. This is placed into the microwave on 5-10 minute on high to cook all the moisture out of the espom salt. After cooking it, you can see it is very white and crispy, and is stuck to the plate. NOTICE the oven mitt, the plate will be extremely hot, so handle with care. The cooked epsom salts are chipped away from the plate with a butter knife, and care is used so one does not get burnt by the hot plate. Here you can see the epsom salt chipped away, and then SWIM uses his fist or something hard to grind the chunks to a bit more powdery, with some chunks, as well.. The powder and chunks are added to the jug. SWIM doesn't measure, but just adds a few pinchfuls to the solvent, then he shakes it vigorously, so all the moisture that was left in the jug is soaked up and so no water can be seen in the bottom of the jug. This is left to settle, which also happens within seconds.. Here you can see the espom salts collected in the bottom of the jug and all the moisture has been soaked up. The 2 liter funnel is upturned into a fresh, dry, clean jug, and a coffee filter is placed inside, to catch any epsom salt that falls out when pouring it into the fresh clean jug.. Here you can see the solvent has been poured through the filter slowly, and any epsom salt is caught in the coffee filter.. Here is the jug, now washed and dried, in a fresh, dry, clean jug, which is now ready to be placed in the freezer for anywhere from 12-72 hours. By waiting longer, the DMT settles out much better, and does not float in the solvent. This helps when pouring the solvent off the crystals slowly, into another jug, to be saved for future extractions.. Here one can see the DMT settling out of the solvent that has been in the freezer for about 18 hours or so.. Here is a large photo taken after the majority of solvent is poured off into a jug for later use. The top is then cut off of the jug, to reveal the huge pile of slightly yellow DMT, with tiny bit of residual solvent. This is the DMT after the solvent has dried up and the DMT has been scraped out of the jug. This chunky DMT is now spread thinly onto a glass baking dish, and chopped up finely, then placed in front of a box fan to continue drying completely. Once the solvent smell is gone and the crystals are thoroughly dried, they were placed back on the scale to show the yield and results.. So there you have it folks, a complete step by step pictorial of a simple STB, plus polar wash, and epsom salt dry, that anyone should be able to complete easily. This is what SWIM did, precisely, and got 17.1 grams of slightly yellow DMT, that will be recrystallized in days to come. He'll take pics of the recrystallization procedure as well, then add them to this thread when he gets around to it. Until then, you'll have to go by the text in other threads.. Hope this helps clear up any questions, and shows exactly how simple the extraction is. No need for any extensive chemistry knowledge, and everything is easily found in most any neighborhood. Use it wisely, and stay safe people!! Don't forget to share your DMT experiences and revelations here at Mycotopia, the best forum on the internet!! Attached Thumbnails __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom! Last edited by Irishlion; 09-08-09 at 10:52. Reason: fixed the photos

09-05-09, 15:04	#2 (permalink)
Om shanti S.W.I.M. in H.POO Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,297	Awesome stuff, thanks! __________________ The most important thing is to find out what is the most important thing.-S. Suzuki

09-05-09, 16:22	#4 (permalink)
real_psily electron pusher Join Date: Aug 1972 Posts: 426	Damn Watcha that is 3.7+% yield!! I can't tell how yellow that spice is by the pic, but looks good. I'm sure it will look like glass when re-xtalized. __________________ Be informed, then choose. - Shulgin

09-05-09, 22:32	#8 (permalink)
buteo Imbicilzzzz Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,355	good work whatcha ....thank you for this ! __________________ Im only what i think i am

09-05-09, 15:13	#3 (permalink)
eastwood Mycotopiate Join Date: Jul 1972 Posts: 2,916	17g Wow! Great tek whatcha.Thanks for taking the time to put this thread together.Im looking forward to seeing how swim goes about recrystallizing the spice.

09-05-09, 19:02	#6 (permalink)
Raziel We will ... live forever Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,530	So friggen jealous Nice picterial whatchamacallit

09-05-09, 22:44	#9 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	Here is number 31 in the proper size, but it's too late for me to add it to the post. However, if anyone can make this into a pdf file with the captions and photos in the right place, here is number 31, done to about the same size as the other photos, in the thread, so this one could be exchanged for the number 31 in the original post. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-06-09, 06:52	#10 (permalink)
LotRev Technopagan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,070	Bad-Fucking-Ass my friend. Nice pictorial...so we don't need anymore DMT discussion eh, you've got it all covered now? Really, excellent job Whatcha, thank you for posting this. I bet it starts popping up all over the place. __________________ Wine is fine, but whiskey's quicker - Suicide is slow with liqueur Take a bottle, drown your sorrows - Then it floods away tomorrows

09-06-09, 13:48	#11 (permalink)
eatyualive ExoCannibalist Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,064	wow very nice. im gonna have to give this another go. __________________ Click for Eat's Reference

09-06-09, 13:59	#13 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	And great thread BTW Whatcha. Yours is what I envisioned mine to be a while back. But I just wasn't anywhere near as thorough. Some fine work. I'm sure we'll be seeing your work pop up all over the place. __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

09-06-09, 17:06	#15 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	AWESOME!!! Thank you very much!! That looks excellent, would be nice with a title, though, but that is awesome!! Distribute it freely!!! __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-06-09, 23:10	#16 (permalink)
Calaquendi Firstborn Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 406	Excellent work brother! Great pictorial, you really nail it good. Thanks for the wicked thread, informative and comprehensive... hat's off man! __________________ " I am You and what I see is Me..."

09-07-09, 01:15	#17 (permalink)
usagolden A Tin Can Banana Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 324	nice write up will be using it myself

09-07-09, 15:26	#19 (permalink)
door#6 one billion served Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 62	thanks for this would these chrystals be active if dosed orally? would taking an maoi before smoking effect durration of trip?

09-07-09, 17:43	#21 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 4,533	archive material when thread slows __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

09-07-09, 18:49	#22 (permalink)
EmmisonJ Pass the Vick's Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 790	Excellent work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09-07-09, 19:55	#23 (permalink)
kcmoxtractor Satan's Helper Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,349	Beautiful whatcha, just beautiful. I think I'm gonna follow your tek when I get my bark in. __________________ "It was the straying that found the path direct" - Austin Osman Spare

09-08-09, 12:37	#24 (permalink)
gardentoad Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 1971 Posts: 46	Great tek This looks greeat. Does it mean hat I have been using too much water? I have been using one half lb. bark per gallon of lye water so that it isn't too sludgy. I have had successful extractions but with no where near the results that you have shown us. I would love to get similiar results. Thank you.

09-08-09, 14:59	#25 (permalink)
Oblivion Join me there Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,622	Nice, very nice. __________________ Delivery from ignorance is bliss.

09-09-09, 11:47	#27 (permalink)
sweetjames Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6	I see that 400 ml of naphtha was used for each pull, is this necessary to use that much each time? It seems that most people talk of using lesser amounts per pull, like 100 ml, so there is less to evaporate. Is it better to use larger amounts of naphtha?

09-09-09, 12:13	#28 (permalink)
LotRev Technopagan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,070	The naphtha was not evaporated here. Yes, use 400 ml. As you can see, it works great. Welcome to Mycotopia! __________________ Wine is fine, but whiskey's quicker - Suicide is slow with liqueur Take a bottle, drown your sorrows - Then it floods away tomorrows

09-09-09, 12:15	#29 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	Well, first of all, using only 100 mls of naphtha for trying to pull out DMT from 454 grams of MHRB, one may only pull out a gram or two, and on top of that, it's damn near impossible to separate 100 mls of solvent from the top of the water. The solvent layer must be large enough to pour or suction off the top. I believe I have read that 100 mls of naphtha will only hold around a gram. The expected yield off of 1 lb of MHRB, is gonna be 3-10 grams (depending on bark quality) so a minimum of 1000 ml should be used to ensure that one can get all the DMT out of the solvent. Teks that use less solvent, are usually when doing a much smaller extraction, but as stated, it's damn near impossible to separate 100 mls of solvent from a water layer. I'd suggest sticking to this tek as written, and if only doing half the amount of MHRB, then the ingredients can be halved (although, the water amount can be greater, as long as the MHRB/lye/water layer isn't thick and sludgy). Also, if one uses excess naphtha, then it can be evaporated a bit, until it gets cloudy/milky white, then it can be freeze precipitated. By freeze precipitating, one will be able to reuse the solvent on the next next extraction, and the end results will come out cleaner. SWIM would suggest using 100 mls of naphtha for each gram of expected yield of DMT. Using any less will be hard to separate, or will reduce the yield. SWIM took detailed photos, with the explanation, so this tek could be copied exactly, to get the same results. If one decides not to follow the instructions as written, then all kinds of mistakes or differences in the end result may occur. This makes it extremely hard to figure out where one went wrong. SWIM would suggest learning the process by following a proven method and once that is understood, tweaking one element of the extraction at a time, can give one results to compare. When changing up a few steps, it gives many more possibilities for where the results come out different. By changing up one element at a time, one can pinpoint where exactly the change occured, and then can note the difference in results. SWIM has been extracting DMT for 6 years, at least, and so he has tried all kinds of variations, until he found the best techniques for completing the extraction, to get the best results. When SWIM started, QT's Tek was the only one really available on the internet, and he has since tweaked out the tek, adding steps and eliminating extra steps, to make the simplest, cleanest, smoothest DMT, with the least amount of work. If one chooses to experiment, SWIM thinks that one'll soon see the reason that this tek is written the way it is, as all the steps have been tweaked to get the best reults.. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-09-09, 12:35	#30 (permalink)
sweetjames Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6	Thanks for such a quick reply. SWIM planned on following it exactly, he was just trying to understand as he has only been researching this for a few days.

09-09-09, 12:54	#31 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	BTW, one could use 250-300 mls of naphtha per pull, if one has a limited amount of naphtha. More pulls could be done with smaller amounts, as well. SWIM has seen people do 5-6 pulls, and even got a lil extra DMT on those pulls, but there comes a point of more work with diminishing results. One could continue to do pulls on the naphtha until they get no DMT precipitating, to be sure they get all the DMT, but after 4 pulls, SWIM feels that he has 90-95% of the DMT, so doing more work, for under a half a gram (or less), is often not worth it to SWIM. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-09-09, 13:40	#32 (permalink)
Jawn Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63	Great idea, using the Gatorade bottle as a sep funnel.

09-09-09, 14:07	#33 (permalink)
Frequency Code Demon Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 728	Nice job Whatcha! An excellent addition to the literature! Awesome pictorial too. I love chem pr0n Spice on the inside, clean on the outside. DMT paint job! __________________ Programmer + Psychonaut = Frequency

09-09-09, 14:16	#34 (permalink)
Irishlion KEY MASTER Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,343	Archieve Material DMT spice __________________ a man without honor isn't a man at all but, a soul trapped in a flesh body that is lost in a void of its own making

09-10-09, 11:17	#35 (permalink)
sweetjames Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 6	Also, if this is SWIM's first time, would you recommend using only a 1/2 lb of MHRB first to get the hang of it or just go for the whole lb?

09-10-09, 14:18	#36 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	Well, using half wouldn't be a bad idea for practicing, however, SWIM thinks it's easy enough to follow exactly, so one can get similar results if it is followed to the letter. If you don't feel like doing it a few times, then doing the whole shebang shouldn't be a problem, and as long as one doesn't discard anything until they have all their crystals, even if you mess up, we can help you find it and get it out of there. The tek was photoed while 2 jugs with a lb each were done, and seeing over a half ounce of DMT in the bottom of the jug just looks amazing. It is nice to perform large extractions because the results look remarkably impressive from larger amounts, and if recrystallization is planned, then it's also much easier to recrystallize a large amount. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-12-09, 03:38	#37 (permalink)
headcase Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2	SWIM did this tek tonight. Four pulls, each pull spaced one hour from the last for easy pouring. She said that the gatorade bottle works even better than her gravy seperator. Used one pound of bark. Her favorite part was pulling the polar impurities with the Sodium Carbonate. The jug is in her freezer, she said she'd let me know how it turns out.

09-12-09, 09:53	#38 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	Welcome to Mycotopia, headcase, can't wait to hear how your friends results turn out!! __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

09-12-09, 19:38	#39 (permalink)
tenjin SeventhSon of aSeventhSon Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 549	This is an awesome pictorial tek and thx for contributing Whatcha. A friend recently tried this tek out and got almost all white crystals without cleaning. This was cool but kinda baffled me because I've always seen it yellow before cleaning with a STB extraction. It was same source of MHRB, but their MHRB was kept in a freezer for a couple months.

09-13-09, 04:17	#41 (permalink)
Leftover Salmon Can'tGetRight Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 224	Ok, first off, very nice write up fellow deadhead. My question to you is; what significance does re-crystallization hold and could one stop here and have pleasant results in use? Again good job and thank you.

09-13-09, 05:57	#42 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	It's fine to use as is, it's fairly smooth, and all traces of lye have been removed, but if one wants even more pure, white/clear DMT, then recrystallization can provide that. The yellow is actually preferred by some, while the white/clear is preferred by others. Perhaps trying both is the best bet to find out which one you prefer. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!