kratom

masterplain88 · 09-16-09, 17:23

well i have some potent indonesian kratom and was woundering on the dose to take i was think 6 grams. any ways i thought it came in leafe but its in powder that looks like keif. they also sent me some sundanese kratom about a 8gs i think. any ways any info would be nice on hoew do dose.
thanks,
masterplain88

EmmisonJ · 09-16-09, 19:06

personally i enjoy the powder loaded up in "00" caps. you can make a tea but the alkaloids are not entirely water soluble so you will be losing goods.

best to cap it or do the "toss and wash" where you just toss powder down your throat and wash it down with something. i think the toss and wash has a certain gag factor though, capping is the best IMHO

masterplain88 · 09-16-09, 19:13

yea i think i did about 6 grams in tea and there was some stuff leftover on the bottom i got as much as i could. im waiting to see if it is going to work. i like the pill capsule idea way better than tea. so how does kratom effect you i got super indo and some sundanese kratom also. any info would be nice on effect and any other info. how long does it take to kick in i senn 15-20min somewere.
thanks
masterplain88

jay-pheno · 09-16-09, 19:55

recently i tried kratom for the first time ,, i did enjoy it was like a mild opiate though at 8 grams had me thinkin 14 or more would have been the buzz i wanted ,, lol was trying to play it safe being that it was a experimentl first dose

8grams powder is alot to eat ,,, that was the only bad part i noticed ,,

good luck man ,,

Mermaidia · 09-16-09, 20:20

Kratom take a bit to come on so be patient. At lower doses it is more stimulant like, at higher doses it is more opiate like. If you take too much you will know it, but by then it's too late. Feels like taking too many pain pills and you will have what i call " the kratom hangover" the next morning.

cactuskid · 09-16-09, 21:35

Hell I forgot that I have 250g of Indo. It is pretty much useless to me except to ease withdrawal symptoms. Apparently if you have a high opioid tolerance even 50+g of Kratom tea in a single dose has no effect whatsoever. If only there was a way to make it stronger -- even capping it doesn't help me.

rocketman · 09-16-09, 22:32

might just be old or bad kratom. with my tolerance i still felt 14g pretty good back then. its a nice change when you have some. i had some from a trade once, and it sucked. i guess if i was thinking right id have asked myself who would trade "good kratom" in those quantities

BuckarooBanzai · 09-16-09, 22:46

Kratom is an excellent high.

Be careful, though - like all excellent highs, it is addictive.

cactuskid · 09-16-09, 22:49

This is my third batch of premium indo or thai kratom from as many reputable suppliers, including kratom king, ktbotanicals and another major one. I'm certain the quality is at least average and the taste is bitter as hell so there are alkaloids. My tolerance is unfortunately very, very high since I've been on daily prescription pain meds for years now. I get discouraged about this a lot!

Soliver · 09-19-09, 11:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactuskid

This is my third batch of premium indo or thai kratom from as many reputable suppliers, including kratom king, ktbotanicals and another major one. I'm certain the quality is at least average and the taste is bitter as hell so there are alkaloids. My tolerance is unfortunately very, very high since I've been on daily prescription pain meds for years now. I get discouraged about this a lot!

You've got to choose one or the other... if you take both kratom and pain
meds, all you're doing is lowering the effectiveness of both and raising your
tolerance / dose for no reason....

In the long run, kratom is better for you, as it isn't spiked with tylenol, but
depending on your insurance, etc., it can be more expensive too. Unlike
opiates, your kratom tolerance will eventually bottom out.

I'd suggest making a choice.

soliver

masterplain88 · 09-19-09, 14:26

yea im still unsure i felt a lil bit but i think a bigger dose will help out. anybody know if you can have less effects if taken with milk.
masterplain88

Soliver · 09-19-09, 18:41

I've taken it with just about anything you can imagine with no difference in effects...

Taking it on a full stomach will decrease the "punch," but the buzz lasts longer.

Some peeps say taking it and then drinking coffee gives them a headache, but I've
never noticed such an effect.

soliver

the_chosen_one · 09-19-09, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmmisonJ

personally i enjoy the powder loaded up in "00" caps. you can make a tea but the alkaloids are not entirely water soluble so you will be losing goods.

best to cap it or do the "toss and wash" where you just toss powder down your throat and wash it down with something. i think the toss and wash has a certain gag factor though, capping is the best IMHO

i agree here. i'd rather take 10-20 "00" caps than the tea any day.. gah! it's like drinking a whole box of green tea in one cup. *shivers.

extraction and/or tincture works well, and is very easy. there is a little loss in the processes, but still better than the tea imo. adding corydalis, pedicularis, lotus or a mix of those can really add a nice kick. really nice.

it may even lessen the required dosage. as with the kratom the corydalis has addiction potential. the two together can be even more so.. the effect is very very opiate like. so be careful.

masterplain88 · 09-23-09, 17:56

trying capsules right now. much better than drinking gritty tea and much easyer to do a higher dose. just woundering what is the most kratom a person has taken.? im at about 8-9 grams i think.
masterplain88

EmmisonJ · 09-23-09, 18:38

the most i've done was 12 grams, i felt incredible and no nausea that night, nice euphoria. the next day i had horrible vertigo and was sick to my stomach. i could do nothing but lay there all day. the day after that sucked too but not as bad. ever since then anytime i do anything near that 10g range it gets really bad the day after.

wendal · 09-23-09, 19:51

I've topped off at around 45grams.......

Now my tolerance is way to freakin' high to even bother. (from harder opioids)

masterplain88 · 09-23-09, 20:14

yea i agree.
masterplain88

Quote:

Originally Posted by wendal

I've topped off at around 45grams.......

Now my tolerance is way to freakin' high to even bother. (from harder opioids)

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09-16-09, 17:23	#1 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	kratom well i have some potent indonesian kratom and was woundering on the dose to take i was think 6 grams. any ways i thought it came in leafe but its in powder that looks like keif. they also sent me some sundanese kratom about a 8gs i think. any ways any info would be nice on hoew do dose. thanks, masterplain88

09-16-09, 20:20	#5 (permalink)
Mermaidia Comfortably Numb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,554	Kratom take a bit to come on so be patient. At lower doses it is more stimulant like, at higher doses it is more opiate like. If you take too much you will know it, but by then it's too late. Feels like taking too many pain pills and you will have what i call " the kratom hangover" the next morning. __________________ Live life so completely that when death comes to you like a thief in the night, there will be nothing left for him to steal.

09-16-09, 22:32	#7 (permalink)
rocketman GATE KEEPER Join Date: Feb 1971 Posts: 4,537	might just be old or bad kratom. with my tolerance i still felt 14g pretty good back then. its a nice change when you have some. i had some from a trade once, and it sucked. i guess if i was thinking right id have asked myself who would trade "good kratom" in those quantities __________________ robbing a man of his cherished delusions does not make you any wealthier, it just makes him poorer. H3

09-16-09, 22:46	#8 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Kratom is an excellent high. Be careful, though - like all excellent highs, it is addictive. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

09-16-09, 19:06	#2 (permalink)
EmmisonJ Pass the Vick's Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 790	personally i enjoy the powder loaded up in "00" caps. you can make a tea but the alkaloids are not entirely water soluble so you will be losing goods. best to cap it or do the "toss and wash" where you just toss powder down your throat and wash it down with something. i think the toss and wash has a certain gag factor though, capping is the best IMHO

09-16-09, 19:13	#3 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	yea i think i did about 6 grams in tea and there was some stuff leftover on the bottom i got as much as i could. im waiting to see if it is going to work. i like the pill capsule idea way better than tea. so how does kratom effect you i got super indo and some sundanese kratom also. any info would be nice on effect and any other info. how long does it take to kick in i senn 15-20min somewere. thanks masterplain88

09-16-09, 19:55	#4 (permalink)
jay-pheno swad Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 370	recently i tried kratom for the first time ,, i did enjoy it was like a mild opiate though at 8 grams had me thinkin 14 or more would have been the buzz i wanted ,, lol was trying to play it safe being that it was a experimentl first dose 8grams powder is alot to eat ,,, that was the only bad part i noticed ,, good luck man ,,

09-16-09, 21:35	#6 (permalink)
cactuskid Cactophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 20	Hell I forgot that I have 250g of Indo. It is pretty much useless to me except to ease withdrawal symptoms. Apparently if you have a high opioid tolerance even 50+g of Kratom tea in a single dose has no effect whatsoever. If only there was a way to make it stronger -- even capping it doesn't help me.

09-16-09, 22:49	#9 (permalink)
cactuskid Cactophiliac Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 20	This is my third batch of premium indo or thai kratom from as many reputable suppliers, including kratom king, ktbotanicals and another major one. I'm certain the quality is at least average and the taste is bitter as hell so there are alkaloids. My tolerance is unfortunately very, very high since I've been on daily prescription pain meds for years now. I get discouraged about this a lot!

09-19-09, 14:26	#11 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	yea im still unsure i felt a lil bit but i think a bigger dose will help out. anybody know if you can have less effects if taken with milk. masterplain88

09-19-09, 18:41	#12 (permalink)
Soliver Deviant Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,784	I've taken it with just about anything you can imagine with no difference in effects... Taking it on a full stomach will decrease the "punch," but the buzz lasts longer. Some peeps say taking it and then drinking coffee gives them a headache, but I've never noticed such an effect. soliver

09-23-09, 17:56	#14 (permalink)
masterplain88 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 683	trying capsules right now. much better than drinking gritty tea and much easyer to do a higher dose. just woundering what is the most kratom a person has taken.? im at about 8-9 grams i think. masterplain88

09-23-09, 18:38	#15 (permalink)
EmmisonJ Pass the Vick's Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 790	the most i've done was 12 grams, i felt incredible and no nausea that night, nice euphoria. the next day i had horrible vertigo and was sick to my stomach. i could do nothing but lay there all day. the day after that sucked too but not as bad. ever since then anytime i do anything near that 10g range it gets really bad the day after.

09-23-09, 19:51	#16 (permalink)
wendal Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 434	I've topped off at around 45grams....... Now my tolerance is way to freakin' high to even bother. (from harder opioids)

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