poppy extraction

[masterplain88]

so i have been reading through the arcives on poppy extraction some use iso some use everclear some us just water. i am kinda unsure wether i should just make tea from the pods or do an extraction and go for the smokable form. any input of help would be nice.
thanks,
masterplain88

[eastwood]

Tea

[masterplain88]

yea i wanted to do a smokable form but its lookin like you get the most for your money from the tea. now i have seen many tea prep methods does anyone have a prefered method for making tea.
thanks,
masterplain88

[BeardedLadysLady]

I also say go for the tea.

What we do is:
Remove seeds from pods
Crush up pods
Make into powder using coffee grinder
Put in french press
Add hot water (not boiling cuz boiling degrades the product)
Add a squirt of lemon juice
Let steep for 20 minutes
Strain and enjoy!

We also add a few tea bags to our poppy tea to cut the taste.
Some people like the taste, but I don't.
You can also do the process another time with the same pod mush and get another cup of weaker tea.

[greenmeanie]

French presses work very well, as you said.

I have found the Italian method good too. Follow steps 1&2 above,

Remove seeds from pods
Crush up pods

Grind to "just before" powder; perhaps "sand" in texture. Otherwise you'll clog your screen.
Place in the coffee basket of the espresso machine. Do not overfill.
Stir in a pinch or two of acid. You could either just squeeze a lemon in and stir the paste, or add a little powdered citric, tartaric, ascorbic, etc.
Brew into a large mug, and continue pulling water until you see the color of the tea remain constant. Like espresso coffee you will observe the first few seconds to be frothy, the next extremely dark, and finally a tapering volume. This should be around 8-10oz of water total. Add honey to taste.
The second cup may contain something, but it's an order of magnitude weaker than the first cup. Continuous extraction rocks, and the temperature of the water is fairly constant 190-200F. If you want, you could even brew over ice for a refreshing cold tea.

[wildburr]

Why remove the seeds? I just tried my first pod tea today ground up seeds and all, put me out for a couple of hours. It was wonderful

[whatchamacallit]

SWIM saves the seeds for planting..

[BeardedLadysLady]

Originally Posted by wildburr

Why remove the seeds? I just tried my first pod tea today ground up seeds and all, put me out for a couple of hours. It was wonderful

I find that the seeds don't do anything for me.
I don't like the taste of them either.
And they are fun for planting
But if you don't mind them in your tea, why not?

[masterplain88]

cool thanks everybody for the tea input i will try my first cup maybe tomorrow. im on H so no need to mix two of the basicaly same drugs in one night. now for my next question what is a good number of pods for a cup of tea.for a high dose that is tho i might start low but my tea is mainly going to be used for my withdralws then im going from poppy tea down to kratom so i can comfortably step down. plus hey its an alternative to going back down my old destuctive path that i have started again a week ago. hey wildburr what would be a good dose for my mom for her first time she would like some tea.
thanks ,
masterplain88

[wildburr]

Originally Posted by BeardedLadysLady

I find that the seeds don't do anything for me.

I don't like the taste of them either.

And they are fun for planting

But if you don't mind them in your tea, why not?

makes sense, Ill hang on to them to plant next season. besides they did clog up my strainer pretty quick.

[masterplain88]

any suggestions on a dose for my mom she would like to try it i cant till tomorrow because of the other drugs im on.?

[BeardedLadysLady]

Does she have any opiate tolerance?
What size pods do you have?

[masterplain88]

she has no opiate tolerance and they are labled jumbo but i would say that the size is a gollfball(maybe a lil bigger) it the smallest one out of my box.
masterplain88

[BeardedLadysLady]

I would say start her off with 2.

[masterplain88]

so i did some poppy tea about 7 pods with low effects i have hight tolorence to opiates because of herion. so i did the rest of the pods on an extraction basicaly just cooked the tea down to goo with a few steps before hand from and opuim site. the effects are deff better smoking it i think but because of my opiate so called addiction i ranks the tea week for regular opiate users and the smoke a lil more enjoyable but harsh on the throat.
masterplain88

[whatchamacallit]

Try adding ten jumbo poppy pods, ground to a fine powder in a coffee grinder or blender. Add a measured amount of coffee to the coffee maker.

Then dump all the pod powder in with the coffee and mix it around really well (no need for acids because coffee is already slightly acidic), Now, only place enough water to go just under the lip of the cup where the top of the coffee filter sits (about .5-1").

Do not put the coffee pot on yet, just turn on the coffee maker and keep an eye on it, so as the water fills the cup, it doesn't overflow. After the cup is full, gently open it up and stir the pod powder and coffee around, then close it back up and let it sit for 15 minutes.

Fill the coffee maker, again, just high enough so that it will not over flow the cup that holds the coffee filter/coffee/pod powder. Place the coffee pot underneath to collect the first steep. When it has fully drained, pour you a cup, add sugar to sweeten, or cream if you like, although SWIM likes his black.

After removing the first pot, then turn on the coffee maker again, and repeat this step, letting the pod powder and coffee steep for another 15-20 minutes, then, again, place the coffee pot underneath the cup and collect the coffee. Sweeten again to taste, and drink.

With about six to ten quality jumbo pods, almost anyone (even with a very heavy habit) should get an extremely long, and powerful high, and probably nod off easily (or in the worst type caes at least not feel sick).

Newbies, please start with 1-2 pods tops, and wait at least 2 hours before trying to do more because it can often take 2-3 hours to fully kick all the way in and it can last nearly all day.

Too much causes nausea and hangover type feelings, and addiction can creep up on you before you even realize it. Then, all of a sudden one day, you can't function because you're violently ill, and the only way you know that you can feel better to handle the days responsibilities is to go figure out a way to score, then try and figure out a way to feed yourself, and hopefully get prepared to have a proper dose for later or in the morning.

However, usually that ends up in you scoring and then doing it all, just cause you really wanted to actually get high from the shit, not just spending all night on the toilet with hot sweats and sneezes and diarrhea and insomnia, etc.

Please use them in moderation, they are a slippery slope to addiction, and being natural doesn't make the addiction potential any less.

Best of luck on all your adventures!

[whatchamacallit]

Grapefruit juice inhibits the opiates from being broken down in the liver as quickly, making the dose stronger and last longer, and was recommended by SWIM's methadone clinic for people with faster metabolisms.

It can be dangerous with other medications, but with opiates alone, it is not physically harmful, and out of all hard drugs, opiates are one of the least harmful physiologically, when clean drugs are used properly.

The worst part is needing the medicine to keep from getting sick. Anyways, grapefruit juice is a safe way to potentiate opiates, unless taking other prescription medications, in which the doctor specifies that you shouldn't.

Other potentiators, are diphenhydramine (aka benadryl), usually in the recommended dosage, which also helps control itchiness, but increases drowsiness.

There are other ways to potentiate the potency of opiates and poppy tea. Even Cannabis smoking has had mention of being a booster, but I haven't spread any incorrect or false info, and unless one is on some medication in which the doctor recommends against grapefruit juice, then using it is a very easy and safe way to give their opiate dose a boost, that can help make it last longer, as well, saving them money on using less pills, or even pods , which are probably the cheapest deal among most of the weaker opioid pills, with a gentler nod and more comfortable dosing schedule, that is easily hidden.

Also, they are much easier to control on a taper because a daily dose is possible, and then one can leave without worrying about needing another dose for at least 12-24 hours.

[opiatoker]

Originally Posted by masterplain88

so i did some poppy tea about 7 pods with low effects i have hight tolorence to opiates because of herion. so i did the rest of the pods on an extraction basicaly just cooked the tea down to goo with a few steps before hand from and opuim site. the effects are deff better smoking it i think but because of my opiate so called addiction i ranks the tea week for regular opiate users and the smoke a lil more enjoyable but harsh on the throat.
masterplain88

when you have it almost goo like, add some cold iso, or acetone. it will make everything that is harsh crash out to solids that are easily filtered out. that will leave you with liquid that is much cleaner. no cloudiness = no harshness. then just keep evaporating as you were. the product will not burn as before but will melt and vaporize and will last much longer.