pod tea, too bitter. Extraction?

[Mushrooms201]

Ok so after much reading SWIM decided to order about 50 medium pods. Then tried to make tea out of them.... Its just too bitter . So SWIM was thinking he might try to do an extraction and then perhaps evaporate it so that it could be masked in food, put in capsules, or perhaps smoked. I know that it will never be like opium but has anyone found a method that yielded reasonable results?

[thatgreenthumb]

it can be boiled down and the goo put into capsule
but smoking has minimal if any effects IMO
the capsules work great for quick easy doses.

[Irishlion]

Originally Posted by Mushrooms201

Ok so after much reading SWIM decided to order about 50 medium pods. Then tried to make tea out of them.... Its just too bitter . So SWIM was thinking he might try to do an extraction and then perhaps evaporate it so that it could be masked in food, put in capsules, or perhaps smoked. I know that it will never be like opium but has anyone found a method that yielded reasonable results?

To bitter, hmmmmmmm wierd pod tea always has a nice earthy taste to it for me, I add some honey to sweeten and I make a very very strong tea like 16 large pods to a coffee pot of water and its never to bitter. Just a nice earthy taste, you adding anything to it or using city tap water or something or well water?

[opiatoker]

if it is not bitter it is not very strong. but if you are new to it, and it is bitter, dillute it with water until the bitter is much more like drinking strong green tea. that will be completely sufficient for you. unless you already have a high tolerance.

as far as evapping and smoking, as was stated, it has very little effect, UNLESS smoked on top of a bit of pot. tiny bit of tar shaped like a donut on top of a bowl of weed, so the flame will pass through, and hole will need to be re opened with a needle or paperclip or similar, it is a very potent compliment to the weed. very. but alone, it is very mild, and hard to manage getting good hits as it likes to melt into itself and the smoking device.

but on weed is my preferred recreational use, and pinching off a piece of the tar and swallowing it is my preferred method of pain management.

be careful though, it smells so pretty and inviting, but believe me, take a couple hundred milligrams (which is smaller than a pencil eraser) more then your body is ready for, you'll regret ever touching it. baby steps. and it creeps on you. if you slightly feel effects but want more, wait an hour or two before taking more, most likely if you feel it, within the hour it will kick in all the way.

thats my advice from recent experience, all of it. have fun and be safe.

p.s. don't put it in food. it'll be so nasty. the potent bitter taste is a warning. heed all warnings.

[thafunkyone]

Originally Posted by Irishlion

To bitter, hmmmmmmm wierd pod tea always has a nice earthy taste to it for me, I add some honey to sweeten and I make a very very strong tea like 16 large pods to a coffee pot of water and its never to bitter. Just a nice earthy taste, you adding anything to it or using city tap water or something or well water?

Well i don't know if I'd describe it as 'nice'...def. earthy. like he said sweeten it. it should be dark, and you should sip it slow if you're a beginner. The taste will grow on you.

[Mushrooms201]

I just brewed the ground pods in water then added honey.

[Irishlion]

Originally Posted by Mushrooms201

I just brewed the ground pods in water then added honey.

AHHHHH you ground the pods up huh, with the seeds? I break my pods up in small chunks and steep them for like a hour, stirring every so often, and the tea comes out earthly tasting and potent as fuck. then again 16 large pods to a coffee pot of water is a rather big doseage of tea, so please don't try this at home kids.

[whatchamacallit]

Hope you didn't use 50 pods to make tea, as that is probably SUPER strong, and could be deadly. The more bitter, the stronger it is. SWIM has found the bitterness of coffee and pods go well together. The coffee masks it well, and with sugar, it's much less noticeable than in tea of any sort.

If one has no tolerance, SWIM would suggest starting with 3 pods (at most), then waiting an hour or two, and if that isn't enough, try another 3 pods. SWIM gets a nod from 6-10 pods, with a tolerance. Some may even get a buzz from 1-2 pods, but 3 pods should definitely give almost anyone without a tolerance a pretty noticeable buzz.

Here is a link to a post with a couple links that have a very good extraction tek, which uses common items found mostly at the grocery store. http://forums.mycotopia.net/botanica...tml#post781961 (Poppy yield size)

[Mushrooms201]

i might give it another try. I did remove seeds from the last ones, and then soaked in hot water. Do you guys use cold water?

[Shroomette]

Boil two cups of water on the stove. Once the water is boiling, remove from the heat and add your powdered pods. Do not boil the pods!
Then proceed to Stir occasionally, allowing around 10-15 minutes for the tea to "steep", and cool
Cold water won't bring out the alkaliods from the pods.

You can mix the tea with honey, sugar, or Orange Juice.

[whatchamacallit]

SWIM grinds the pods to fine powder in a blender, then puts his coffee and pod powder in the coffee maker, in the filter, that sits in the cup where the water drains into. He mixes the pod powder with the coffee well, then puts enough water so that the water level doesn't go above the coffee filter when turned on.

He doesn't put the coffee pot on right away, so the pod powder and coffee are steeped for 10-15 minutes. He stirs it once after the water fills the cup, to just below the top of the coffee filter. After the first steep, he drains it into the coffee pot, then adds enough water again to make it fill to just below the top of the coffee filter. (NOTE- The second steep will need a bit less water, due to the water that is contained in the pod powder that has not been squeezed out or drained fully.)

Be sure to keep an eye on the water level in the cup, because if it rises above the coffee filter, it can get particles in the drain hole, making it extremely hard to drain. if this happens SWIM often has to dump it all into a new container, rinse out the coffee pot cup, then replace the filter, which is a major PITA. So just be careful to monitor the water level, until you have it down, and are sure how much water is needed for each steep, so it doesn't overflow.

Anyways, SWIM does a second steep, then drains this into the coffee pot, and he occasionally does a 3rd steep, although it doesn't seem to have much left by the 3rd steep, so it just depends on if SWIM wants to drink more coffee. He just adds sugar to flavor, but one could use sugar and/or creamer to flavor as desired. The flavor is much more like plain coffee and is masked way better than with tea of any flavor.

BTW, cold water will pull out the alkaloids from pods. Also, adding a squirt of lemon juice wouldn't hurt. Cold water will take longer to pull out the alkaloids, so a longer soak in slightly acidic water would work, just in SWIM's opinion, wouldn't taste as good as hot coffee and would take longer.

SWIM has also read that morphine starts to be destroyed at 176 F and higher but many don't think boiling (212 F at sea level) hurts potency from their experience. SWIM just prefers to err on the side of caution, and also would rather not have to wait as long for his coffee or tea to cool before drinking.

One more tip, if using more than 5-6 pods and the coffee filter is too full, split that into two parts. So 2-3 steeps can be done on two loads of pods/coffee, then combine them and drink. That way one is sure to pull all the alkaloids. Trying to use too much can be troublesome with a coffee maker, so another method could be used, or the amount split into two parts.