smoking DMT

the elf · 10-13-09, 10:28

heyhey, SWIM has been doing DMT for a couple of years now, but still not very often. His total trip count would probably be less than 60.

He have a few problems he would like to address.

Firstly, lately SWIM has been having alot of bad trips. he get into the mindset about half way through the trip that hes dieing or that hes already dead and it scares the hell out of him. It doesnt matter what setting he does it in, but it happens on almost every trip where he break through.

Secondly, he stopped getting any visuals whatsoever with his DMT. he just feels a really wierd body high and a massive mindfuck.

Thirdly, he smokes DMT out of a light bulb pipe. At first it was fine and he could smoke as much as he wanted as often as he wanted, but lately its been getting harder and harder to smoke. To the point where he has a sore throat and lungs for an hour or more after having some.

Any help would be much appreciated

Shroomette · 10-13-09, 11:10

IME sounds like SWIM need to take a month or two break away from the DMT as SWIM have to learn to respect this entheogen for what it can show you. Sounds like SWIM has some issues at hand that need to be worked on IMHO. I have found that this profound entheogen can not be used on a daily basis. Just try and clear you mind before you take the next journey but, then again not all trips are going be good/bad.

whatchamacallit · 10-13-09, 12:50

IS the DMT yellow or white/clear? Vaporizing out of a light bulb can be very hot vapor which can be smoked easier with a longer pipe or even through a bong. The yellow DMT is much harsher when vaporized and gives much more of a body buzz. SWIM would suggest smoking it less often. And to do it especially when first awaking in the morning (seems stronger then). And he would make sure to do a polar wash on his solvent before freeze precipitating, then recrystallizing with heptane, very slowly, even, to grow larger clear crystals.

peacegrow · 10-13-09, 13:38

I'm not usually one to consider DMT a being or spiritual entity....just something that allows myself to get in tough with something bigger....

but....it seems like the same thing happened to me with the bad trips. When I first started doing DMT I did it too much, and it was like DMT shut me off by making me die during the experiences. So, I laid off for a while and things are much better now. (Still a little nervous...but who isn't.)

I guess in my model of the world, it's probably yourself shutting you off rather than DMT trying to tell you something....but, either way, I'd lay off for a while, like everyone else is saying.

dimension traveler · 10-13-09, 18:15

quoted by peacegrow- i'm not one usually to consider dmt a being or a spiritual entity.... just something that allows me to get in touch with something bigger. Defanantly agree with you there, dmt is a compound, defanantly not a plant it self. I have respect for what's on the other side of the door, but for me it's the banisteriopsis caapi that I bow down to with respect as the wise one, for he can guide me, not to big on busting on through the door buligerantly to say anymore.

LotRev · 10-13-09, 19:08

It actually sounds like you are burning your spice to me.

Sore throat, uncomfortable body high, mild if any visuals...sounds like
you're burning it up. I get all of those things when I don't hit it right.

the elf · 10-13-09, 21:23

SWIM did actually take a 5 day break before doing the last one, and got the same results. SWIM doesn't do DMT on a daily basis, but he has got so much of it that if he EVER wants to do it it is there.

Crystals are more white than yellow. You can see the picture of them in one of my threads.

I still dont understand how to load DMT into a bong and smoke without burning it... Also SWIM is horrible at smoking ANYTHING through a bong

buteo · 10-13-09, 21:42

i smoke sometimes everyday. just have to know if it wants u or not. you def dont wanna think that something bad is going to happen. just think nice peaceful thoughts. its a scary ride but worth it.

dimension traveler · 10-13-09, 23:38

well if your determend to smoke extrememetals mullein teckneick is really good. mullein is a herb that is meant for a sore throte or bronchitis and what not, it's super smooth, opens up the lungs and doesnt't taste bad

. you can lace it by barly heating it so that it melts into the herb then load into bong or even better solute in into a np like heptane soak the herb with solution then let completely dry and your as good as gold. he has a thread somewhere that says it better lol. but i can back it i'v tried it and it was one of my favorite ways

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extrememetal43 · 10-15-09, 13:26

The Rev is right your burning that spice no doubt. those are the signs of burnt spice. Bad body buzz, no visuals, and the mindfuck like your head is shorting out all signs of burnt spice.

Just to make sure it could be the spice, i had a recrystal go wrong once and the resulting spice was burnt, i had burnt it during the recrystal. did you try to maybe add heat during the evap process or anything that may have burned the spice. this is proabbly not the problem just checking. the problem is its getting burned during the smoking im 99% sure.

this is the tek DT was referring to...http://forums.mycotopia.net/holding-...-herb-tek.html (Extreme's DMT Infused Herb tek)

Stryker636 · 10-17-09, 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yopo

DMT bad for you and addict. Please do'not use these as chemicals can be very very addict and you'will ruin your life. DMT is only drug that makes you fall asleep every night, so smoking is bad for you to fall asleep as well.
Being safe not sorry.

Not trying to be offensive, but I just want to state the facts man, there is absolutely no proof that DMT is bad for you or that it is addictive. DMT is a natural tryptamine made in nearly every living thing. Even us. I would suggest more research on the wonderful powers of DMT. Try reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Straussman. That will give you a lot of insight on DMT.
to the elf
It does sound like you are really burning the DMT
Hope you can get the trip that it is capable of!
PeAcE>

Yopo · 10-17-09, 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stryker636

Not trying to be offensive, but I just want to state the facts man, there is absolutely no proof that DMT is bad for you or that it is addictive. DMT is a natural tryptamine made in nearly every living thing. Even us. I would suggest more research on the wonderful powers of DMT. Try reading DMT: The Spirit Molecule by Dr. Straussman. That will give you a lot of insight on DMT.

Lol sorry about that. Was gonna troll but decided not to.

ishkaboo · 10-17-09, 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yopo

Lol sorry about that. Was gonna troll but decided not to.

You will discover quickly that topia is not a great place to troll, if you haven't already.

Take that shit back to 4chan.

bbd2 · 10-17-09, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by the elf

heyhey, SWIM has been doing DMT for a couple of years now, but still not very often. His total trip count would probably be less than 60.
He have a few problems he would like to address.
Firstly, lately SWIM has been having alot of bad trips. he get into the mindset about half way through the trip that hes dieing or that hes already dead and it scares the hell out of him. It doesnt matter what setting he does it in, but it happens on almost every trip where he break through.
Secondly, he stopped getting any visuals whatsoever with his DMT. he just feels a really wierd body high and a massive mindfuck.
Thirdly, he smokes DMT out of a light bulb pipe. At first it was fine and he could smoke as much as he wanted as often as he wanted, but lately its been getting harder and harder to smoke. To the point where he has a sore throat and lungs for an hour or more after having some.
Any help would be much appreciated

re-x

and get a new lightbulb
or infuse

dimension traveler · 10-17-09, 06:06

I have read the spirit molecule, also inner paths to outerspace, supernatural, ect... and have used spice for a while, indeed it is in every living thing. anyhow I have also done work with shamens from different area's and they all say that we are damb hooligans for using spice. the elders cansole infonsise this alot to. were not sapose to stimulate our pineal gland- it will make you hazzy in a dream state never awoken in the moment. are tryptamine levels in the pineal are some of the most important attributes to our natural cycle, messing with them is well....
me..- releases natural dopeamines, do you consider that good? any how sorry if this upsets anyone i'm not trying to attack anyone here, just the topic came up and I thought I would share. there is more reasons that i think matter more anyhow about why not so good but dont wont to write a book here.

buteo · 10-17-09, 07:23

i dont mind finding creativity by overclocking my processor. if it burns up along the way i had a good run.

Dinix · 10-17-09, 10:06

Even once a week seems too much... try slowing it down to twice a month or less? Sometimes the hardest thing to practice is moderation.

And maybe try a different tek for extraction.

LotRev · 10-17-09, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimension traveler

I have read the spirit molecule, also inner paths to outerspace, supernatural, ect... and have used spice for a while, indeed it is in every living thing. anyhow I have also done work with shamens from different area's and they all say that we are damb hooligans for using spice. the elders cansole infonsise this alot to. were not sapose to stimulate our pineal gland- it will make you hazzy in a dream state never awoken in the moment. are tryptamine levels in the pineal are some of the most important attributes to our natural cycle, messing with them is well....
me..- releases natural dopeamines, do you consider that good? any how sorry if this upsets anyone i'm not trying to attack anyone here, just the topic came up and I thought I would share. there is more reasons that i think matter more anyhow about why not so good but dont wont to write a book here.

???

Maybe I've smoked too much DMT, but I can hardly even read that.

buteo · 10-17-09, 14:40

yea lotrev i agree.

anyway abuse can be looked at in different ways. DMT is not a substance to smoke to "get fucked up". Idk if there is a set amount that you are supposed to use it...but if you abuse it too much i think it will def let you know. You can judge me but that doesnt really matter to me...possibly i do abuse it but thats my path. as long as i dont draw in unwanted attention to this underground and dont hurt anyone in the process thats my choice. And i dont smoke it everyday all the time...i just stated it happens.
Anyway the intitial problem was the elf's bad trips. Sometimes they happen...i can get bad trips from any psychadelic. If its too much for 1 to handle at times...sometimes a break is a good idea. You need a good mindset when dealing with that kind of power. Sometimes it scares the fuck outta me to where i gotta stop. But after the breaks i try it again and something amazing comes out of it. Goodluck with all your trips the elf...and to everyone...good things are to come.........

ponyboy · 10-17-09, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by LotRev

It actually sounds like you are burning your spice to me.

Sore throat, uncomfortable body high, mild if any visuals...sounds like
you're burning it up. I get all of those things when I don't hit it right.

i agree!!! its really easy to burn in glass pipes the glass retains heat longer over torching the spice!

Calaquendi · 10-17-09, 16:57

I agree with Shroomette and Whatchamacallit - lay off smoking for a while bro...this type thing has happened to me before, and I know it s my cue to chill...good luck to you!

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10-13-09, 10:28	#1 (permalink)
the elf Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 28	smoking DMT heyhey, SWIM has been doing DMT for a couple of years now, but still not very often. His total trip count would probably be less than 60. He have a few problems he would like to address. Firstly, lately SWIM has been having alot of bad trips. he get into the mindset about half way through the trip that hes dieing or that hes already dead and it scares the hell out of him. It doesnt matter what setting he does it in, but it happens on almost every trip where he break through. Secondly, he stopped getting any visuals whatsoever with his DMT. he just feels a really wierd body high and a massive mindfuck. Thirdly, he smokes DMT out of a light bulb pipe. At first it was fine and he could smoke as much as he wanted as often as he wanted, but lately its been getting harder and harder to smoke. To the point where he has a sore throat and lungs for an hour or more after having some. Any help would be much appreciated

10-13-09, 11:10	#2 (permalink)
Shroomette Fairy Princess Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,939	IME sounds like SWIM need to take a month or two break away from the DMT as SWIM have to learn to respect this entheogen for what it can show you. Sounds like SWIM has some issues at hand that need to be worked on IMHO. I have found that this profound entheogen can not be used on a daily basis. Just try and clear you mind before you take the next journey but, then again not all trips are going be good/bad. __________________ "If I'm not seen in this world.I'm lost in my own lil world"!!!

10-13-09, 12:50	#3 (permalink)
whatchamacallit Deadhead Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170	IS the DMT yellow or white/clear? Vaporizing out of a light bulb can be very hot vapor which can be smoked easier with a longer pipe or even through a bong. The yellow DMT is much harsher when vaporized and gives much more of a body buzz. SWIM would suggest smoking it less often. And to do it especially when first awaking in the morning (seems stronger then). And he would make sure to do a polar wash on his solvent before freeze precipitating, then recrystallizing with heptane, very slowly, even, to grow larger clear crystals. __________________ I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't matter.. http://deadvids.com/dv3 24/7 Dead Videos with a chatroom!

10-13-09, 19:08	#6 (permalink)
LotRev Technopagan Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,070	It actually sounds like you are burning your spice to me. Sore throat, uncomfortable body high, mild if any visuals...sounds like you're burning it up. I get all of those things when I don't hit it right. __________________ Wine is fine, but whiskey's quicker - Suicide is slow with liqueur Take a bottle, drown your sorrows - Then it floods away tomorrows

10-13-09, 13:38	#4 (permalink)
peacegrow Mycophiliac Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 78	I'm not usually one to consider DMT a being or spiritual entity....just something that allows myself to get in tough with something bigger.... but....it seems like the same thing happened to me with the bad trips. When I first started doing DMT I did it too much, and it was like DMT shut me off by making me die during the experiences. So, I laid off for a while and things are much better now. (Still a little nervous...but who isn't.) I guess in my model of the world, it's probably yourself shutting you off rather than DMT trying to tell you something....but, either way, I'd lay off for a while, like everyone else is saying.

10-13-09, 18:15	#5 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	quoted by peacegrow- i'm not one usually to consider dmt a being or a spiritual entity.... just something that allows me to get in touch with something bigger. Defanantly agree with you there, dmt is a compound, defanantly not a plant it self. I have respect for what's on the other side of the door, but for me it's the banisteriopsis caapi that I bow down to with respect as the wise one, for he can guide me, not to big on busting on through the door buligerantly to say anymore.

10-13-09, 21:23	#7 (permalink)
the elf Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 28	SWIM did actually take a 5 day break before doing the last one, and got the same results. SWIM doesn't do DMT on a daily basis, but he has got so much of it that if he EVER wants to do it it is there. Crystals are more white than yellow. You can see the picture of them in one of my threads. I still dont understand how to load DMT into a bong and smoke without burning it... Also SWIM is horrible at smoking ANYTHING through a bong

10-13-09, 21:42	#8 (permalink)
buteo Imbicilzzzz Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,355	i smoke sometimes everyday. just have to know if it wants u or not. you def dont wanna think that something bad is going to happen. just think nice peaceful thoughts. its a scary ride but worth it. __________________ Im only what i think i am

10-13-09, 23:38	#9 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	well if your determend to smoke extrememetals mullein teckneick is really good. mullein is a herb that is meant for a sore throte or bronchitis and what not, it's super smooth, opens up the lungs and doesnt't taste bad. you can lace it by barly heating it so that it melts into the herb then load into bong or even better solute in into a np like heptane soak the herb with solution then let completely dry and your as good as gold. he has a thread somewhere that says it better lol. but i can back it i'v tried it and it was one of my favorite ways.

10-15-09, 13:26	#10 (permalink)
extrememetal43 The Jester's Mad Chemist Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,205	The Rev is right your burning that spice no doubt. those are the signs of burnt spice. Bad body buzz, no visuals, and the mindfuck like your head is shorting out all signs of burnt spice. Just to make sure it could be the spice, i had a recrystal go wrong once and the resulting spice was burnt, i had burnt it during the recrystal. did you try to maybe add heat during the evap process or anything that may have burned the spice. this is proabbly not the problem just checking. the problem is its getting burned during the smoking im 99% sure. this is the tek DT was referring to...http://forums.mycotopia.net/holding-...-herb-tek.html (Extreme's DMT Infused Herb tek) __________________ Pantera told me to smoke DMT!

10-17-09, 06:06	#15 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	I have read the spirit molecule, also inner paths to outerspace, supernatural, ect... and have used spice for a while, indeed it is in every living thing. anyhow I have also done work with shamens from different area's and they all say that we are damb hooligans for using spice. the elders cansole infonsise this alot to. were not sapose to stimulate our pineal gland- it will make you hazzy in a dream state never awoken in the moment. are tryptamine levels in the pineal are some of the most important attributes to our natural cycle, messing with them is well.... me..- releases natural dopeamines, do you consider that good? any how sorry if this upsets anyone i'm not trying to attack anyone here, just the topic came up and I thought I would share. there is more reasons that i think matter more anyhow about why not so good but dont wont to write a book here.

10-17-09, 07:23	#16 (permalink)
buteo Imbicilzzzz Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,355	i dont mind finding creativity by overclocking my processor. if it burns up along the way i had a good run. __________________ Im only what i think i am

10-17-09, 10:06	#17 (permalink)
Dinix Mycophiliac Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4	Even once a week seems too much... try slowing it down to twice a month or less? Sometimes the hardest thing to practice is moderation. And maybe try a different tek for extraction.

10-17-09, 14:40	#19 (permalink)
buteo Imbicilzzzz Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,355	yea lotrev i agree. anyway abuse can be looked at in different ways. DMT is not a substance to smoke to "get fucked up". Idk if there is a set amount that you are supposed to use it...but if you abuse it too much i think it will def let you know. You can judge me but that doesnt really matter to me...possibly i do abuse it but thats my path. as long as i dont draw in unwanted attention to this underground and dont hurt anyone in the process thats my choice. And i dont smoke it everyday all the time...i just stated it happens. Anyway the intitial problem was the elf's bad trips. Sometimes they happen...i can get bad trips from any psychadelic. If its too much for 1 to handle at times...sometimes a break is a good idea. You need a good mindset when dealing with that kind of power. Sometimes it scares the fuck outta me to where i gotta stop. But after the breaks i try it again and something amazing comes out of it. Goodluck with all your trips the elf...and to everyone...good things are to come......... __________________ Im only what i think i am

10-17-09, 16:57	#21 (permalink)
Calaquendi Firstborn Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 406	I agree with Shroomette and Whatchamacallit - lay off smoking for a while bro...this type thing has happened to me before, and I know it s my cue to chill...good luck to you! __________________ " I am You and what I see is Me..."

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