Mescaline Extraction Help Please

BlastedToTheSky · 10-26-09, 18:10

Hey everyone, SWIM is looking for an old thread by "Waylitjim" that was a complete write up on a mescaline extraction tek in which it was extracted into mescaline HCL. SWIM has been searching for it but has not had any luck, it was a truly exceptional write up, and SWIM would really like to get a link to that page.

SWIM is also deciding whether or not to do the hcl extraction tek or the acetate one. Which do you think would be easier and more efficient? SWIM likes the acetate idea because that is using all food safe meterials. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

Shadowlord · 10-26-09, 18:18

I have only done the HCl route not the acetate. You'll probably find advocates of both styles although I like Waylits' thread/tek and all I have learned about mescaline came from him and Tregar's work.
I always have a hard time getting Wyalits thread too for some reason. I always have to go to his profile and dig through his threads. Here is a link to it:

http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescalin...ction-tek.html (Mescaline Extraction Tek)

Good luck! I will always be grateful to Mycotopia for allowing me to learn about and experience the magic of Cactus and Mescaline.

XisCumming · 10-26-09, 20:08

I did the same tek your talking about for my first extract last week... Its pretty easy if you follow directions and are just intelligent about your work... I had some problems but thats my own fault... I decided I myself would do this tek again... but im also just going to try the alcohol extract someone suggested to me, and scraping up the tar and just eating that... sounded much easier... I still only had to eat a small amount of material... and I would get extras that are not included with the mesc hcl...

anyhow.... Good luck maybe i helped you make a decision 1 way or the other

dimension traveler · 10-26-09, 20:22

heres a thread on extraction using citric acid also food safe!

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...875294#7875294

real easy to fallow, never did it myself but sure it will work.

BlastedToTheSky · 10-26-09, 20:57

This website is great, thanks everyone. I have done the alcohol extraction tek a couple times but i never ended up taking enough of it to get a full on experience, although i still got a couple decent ones. I would say I felt a lot more sick from the alcohol extractions compared to the tea. And the funny thing is I got a much more powerful experience off of the tea. So far I really enjoy tea the best, I'll still try one of the teks to get the crystals but I don't think I'll do the alcohol extraction again.

Shadowlord · 10-26-09, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by XisCumming

I did the same tek your talking about for my first extract last week... Its pretty easy if you follow directions and are just intelligent about your work... I had some problems but thats my own fault... I decided I myself would do this tek again... but im also just going to try the alcohol extract someone suggested to me, and scraping up the tar and just eating that... sounded much easier... I still only had to eat a small amount of material... and I would get extras that are not included with the mesc hcl...

anyhow.... Good luck maybe i helped you make a decision 1 way or the other

The Alcohol method works well too. I am not sure what my yields were as I only used enough material for a couple of doses but it is a little simpler if time consuming to get all the goods. One thing about the HCl extraction is that if one has a sep. funnel one can have Mescaline crystals same day. The alcohol one has to shake and let sit for at least a day and then one has to do multiple pulls to get all the goods.
Mescaline tar does have it's merits however. It is a good middle ground for those who can't/don't want to do the HCl tek and can't don't want to take cactus tea.
No matter how one gets it in them mescaline is definitely worth the effort. I made sure to do all three methods as to get the feel of each.
Next up w/ be bridgesii tea to get that MAOI effect.
Gotta love that cactus!

tryptaminer · 10-26-09, 21:27

swiy's best bet is to review as many tek's as possible, thoroughly. some have different preference in solvent ratios, it is essential to completely understand the process before jumping in. A) safety first B) you don't want to fall off this horse many times, obtaining the chemicals required, well there is implications, C) creating salt w.o the desired compounds = bummer...

check out SONOFGAIA's tek, waylitjim's is run of the line, very reliable... none of this can be done without the proper equpiment, although some will beg to differ that makeshift stuff works nicely, to each their own... take the time to familiarize yourself with the process completely, it's really essential

glass. NOT plastic. is a strong preference of SWIM.
good luck!

BlastedToTheSky · 10-26-09, 21:32

Great info Shadow, I wish I could get a sep funnel. I will try the bridgesii tea eventually too, I also am trying to get an idea of what each technique is like, so far as I said before the tea is a major win. I also believe the more time you spend on making the tea and the more you "baby" it, the better it will come out. Soon I plan on spending a whole day 8+ hours just simmering it(not even boiling) and stirring it constantly, and of course adding plenty of lemon juice. I'll strain it after that time, then simmer it down some more, but not too much because I don't want it really thick and gross. Then I'll freeze it for the next day to take in the morning. I haven't done any mesc for over a year so I'm excited, I think once or twice a year trips are enough for me, as long as they are strong doses

dimension traveler · 10-26-09, 22:29

ah sorry blastedtothesky just had to comment cause I saw that you mentioned adding lemon juice to the tea. I dont reccoment it, the best tek for tea here is irishlions... imo. (acids alter) and make it taste even more

.

Ferretious · 10-27-09, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by tryptaminer

glass. NOT plastic. is a strong preference of SWIM.

SWIM's preference as well

tryptaminer · 10-27-09, 11:19

BlastedToTheSky · 10-27-09, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimension traveler

ah sorry blastedtothesky just had to comment cause I saw that you mentioned adding lemon juice to the tea. I dont reccoment it, the best tek for tea here is irishlions... imo. (acids alter) and make it taste even more

.

Does it really?! I never tried it myself but someone compared the two and said the ones with the lemons tasted much better, i guess its preference. I'll have to try it for myself just to compare the two. Thanks for the warning though.

dimension traveler · 10-27-09, 18:37

yea for sure it's all about personal prefference, but maybe if your doing it for the taste add it after words, as I think the acid (lemon juice) messes with some of the other alks that are in the cacti

either way you try it let us know what you think

Sidestreet Getaway · 10-28-09, 09:35

One thing about your butt, it has no taste buds... lol this weekend I'm going to go "the route less traveled."

EmmisonJ · 10-28-09, 10:59

i thought mescaline acetate was hygroscopic?

mescaline citrate is probably your best bet if you're set on using "food safe materials"

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10-26-09, 18:10	#1 (permalink)
BlastedToTheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	Mescaline Extraction Help Please Hey everyone, SWIM is looking for an old thread by "Waylitjim" that was a complete write up on a mescaline extraction tek in which it was extracted into mescaline HCL. SWIM has been searching for it but has not had any luck, it was a truly exceptional write up, and SWIM would really like to get a link to that page. SWIM is also deciding whether or not to do the hcl extraction tek or the acetate one. Which do you think would be easier and more efficient? SWIM likes the acetate idea because that is using all food safe meterials. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

10-26-09, 18:18	#2 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	I have only done the HCl route not the acetate. You'll probably find advocates of both styles although I like Waylits' thread/tek and all I have learned about mescaline came from him and Tregar's work. I always have a hard time getting Wyalits thread too for some reason. I always have to go to his profile and dig through his threads. Here is a link to it: http://forums.mycotopia.net/mescalin...ction-tek.html (Mescaline Extraction Tek) Good luck! I will always be grateful to Mycotopia for allowing me to learn about and experience the magic of Cactus and Mescaline. __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

10-26-09, 20:08	#3 (permalink)
XisCumming Mycophiliac Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 59	I did the same tek your talking about for my first extract last week... Its pretty easy if you follow directions and are just intelligent about your work... I had some problems but thats my own fault... I decided I myself would do this tek again... but im also just going to try the alcohol extract someone suggested to me, and scraping up the tar and just eating that... sounded much easier... I still only had to eat a small amount of material... and I would get extras that are not included with the mesc hcl... anyhow.... Good luck maybe i helped you make a decision 1 way or the other __________________ Real Hip-Hop doesnt sell, so we give it away for free. www.DontAskNoQuestions.com

10-26-09, 21:27	#7 (permalink)
tryptaminer mining for thought Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 93	swiy's best bet is to review as many tek's as possible, thoroughly. some have different preference in solvent ratios, it is essential to completely understand the process before jumping in. A) safety first B) you don't want to fall off this horse many times, obtaining the chemicals required, well there is implications, C) creating salt w.o the desired compounds = bummer... check out SONOFGAIA's tek, waylitjim's is run of the line, very reliable... none of this can be done without the proper equpiment, although some will beg to differ that makeshift stuff works nicely, to each their own... take the time to familiarize yourself with the process completely, it's really essential glass. NOT plastic. is a strong preference of SWIM. good luck! __________________ Your actions speak so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying.

10-26-09, 20:22	#4 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	heres a thread on extraction using citric acid also food safe! http://www.shroomery.org/forums/show...875294#7875294 real easy to fallow, never did it myself but sure it will work.

10-26-09, 20:57	#5 (permalink)
BlastedToTheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	This website is great, thanks everyone. I have done the alcohol extraction tek a couple times but i never ended up taking enough of it to get a full on experience, although i still got a couple decent ones. I would say I felt a lot more sick from the alcohol extractions compared to the tea. And the funny thing is I got a much more powerful experience off of the tea. So far I really enjoy tea the best, I'll still try one of the teks to get the crystals but I don't think I'll do the alcohol extraction again.

10-26-09, 21:32	#8 (permalink)
BlastedToTheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	Great info Shadow, I wish I could get a sep funnel. I will try the bridgesii tea eventually too, I also am trying to get an idea of what each technique is like, so far as I said before the tea is a major win. I also believe the more time you spend on making the tea and the more you "baby" it, the better it will come out. Soon I plan on spending a whole day 8+ hours just simmering it(not even boiling) and stirring it constantly, and of course adding plenty of lemon juice. I'll strain it after that time, then simmer it down some more, but not too much because I don't want it really thick and gross. Then I'll freeze it for the next day to take in the morning. I haven't done any mesc for over a year so I'm excited, I think once or twice a year trips are enough for me, as long as they are strong doses

10-26-09, 22:29	#9 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	ah sorry blastedtothesky just had to comment cause I saw that you mentioned adding lemon juice to the tea. I dont reccoment it, the best tek for tea here is irishlions... imo. (acids alter) and make it taste even more.

10-27-09, 11:19	#11 (permalink)
tryptaminer mining for thought Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 93	__________________ Your actions speak so loudly, I can't hear what you're saying.

10-27-09, 18:37	#13 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	yea for sure it's all about personal prefference, but maybe if your doing it for the taste add it after words, as I think the acid (lemon juice) messes with some of the other alks that are in the cacti either way you try it let us know what you think

10-28-09, 09:35	#14 (permalink)
Sidestreet Getaway Slaptastician Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,319	One thing about your butt, it has no taste buds... lol this weekend I'm going to go "the route less traveled."

10-28-09, 10:59	#15 (permalink)
EmmisonJ Pass the Vick's Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 790	i thought mescaline acetate was hygroscopic? mescaline citrate is probably your best bet if you're set on using "food safe materials"

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