Stability of a long term stored partial mescaline extraction?

arcticfox320 · 10-27-09, 16:49

Okay, suppose there was a isopropanol tar extraction on some powered peruvian torch. The extraction was put on hold before the evaporation step, and stored as alkaloid infused alcohol in HDPE containers. If the extraction were to be completed, would it still be potent, after 4-5 months? And would it be safe?

BlastedToTheSky · 10-27-09, 17:48

Great question, I'm wondering the same thing. I have some of that black juice stored in a jar right now, Its been in that jar sealed for almost 2 years, lol. I would imagine it would still be good because alcohol is a great preservative.

dimension traveler · 10-27-09, 18:34

I would most deffenantly Imagine so, both are very stable, just make sure you evaporate really really good and you should be fine,

theres nothing harmful in cacti and I dont think mold or any infection could grow if theres alc, maybe swirl alittle more fresh alc to kill to be absolute certain but I highly doubt thats needed. sorry for rambling

arcticfox320 · 11-08-09, 15:28

Just a quick bump for more information, maybe something definitely. Wouldn't want to gamble with safety..

Shadowlord · 11-08-09, 18:01

There is absolutely no reason for the mescaline to degrade in any way in the alcohol so you should be fine.
Very stable molecule and many substances are suspended in alcohol for long periods so I can't imagine where any degradation would occur.
Mescaline in the bank my friend LOL.

Ferretious · 11-09-09, 01:48

If it is basified mesc then it will degrade.... not as stable as the salted form. Natural mesc in the cactus comes with natural salts so an alcahol extract will pull these mesc salts ergo no problems with degradation.
Just had a thought. Does anyone know what type of acids naturaly occur in cacti?
Food for thought.

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10-27-09, 16:49	#1 (permalink)
arcticfox320 Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 28	Stability of a long term stored partial mescaline extraction? Okay, suppose there was a isopropanol tar extraction on some powered peruvian torch. The extraction was put on hold before the evaporation step, and stored as alkaloid infused alcohol in HDPE containers. If the extraction were to be completed, would it still be potent, after 4-5 months? And would it be safe?

11-08-09, 18:01	#5 (permalink)
Shadowlord Lost and Wandering. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,549	There is absolutely no reason for the mescaline to degrade in any way in the alcohol so you should be fine. Very stable molecule and many substances are suspended in alcohol for long periods so I can't imagine where any degradation would occur. Mescaline in the bank my friend LOL. __________________ Looking at a cookie is like looking at the future. Until you've tasted it what do you really know? And once you have, it's too late. ~ Merlin

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Ferretious St Peter Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 143	If it is basified mesc then it will degrade.... not as stable as the salted form. Natural mesc in the cactus comes with natural salts so an alcahol extract will pull these mesc salts ergo no problems with degradation. Just had a thought. Does anyone know what type of acids naturaly occur in cacti? Food for thought. __________________ Out here on the perimeter there are no stars! Out here on the perimeter we is trippin' balls!

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10-27-09, 17:48	#2 (permalink)
BlastedToTheSky Mycophiliac Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	Great question, I'm wondering the same thing. I have some of that black juice stored in a jar right now, Its been in that jar sealed for almost 2 years, lol. I would imagine it would still be good because alcohol is a great preservative.

10-27-09, 18:34	#3 (permalink)
dimension traveler Mycophage Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 170	I would most deffenantly Imagine so, both are very stable, just make sure you evaporate really really good and you should be fine, theres nothing harmful in cacti and I dont think mold or any infection could grow if theres alc, maybe swirl alittle more fresh alc to kill to be absolute certain but I highly doubt thats needed. sorry for rambling

11-08-09, 15:28	#4 (permalink)
arcticfox320 Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 28	Just a quick bump for more information, maybe something definitely. Wouldn't want to gamble with safety..