Peruvianus, Bridgesii or ?

paph · 11-02-09, 12:46

I got hold of this cactus back in early March, It was sold to me as T.Bridgesii.
It doesnt look like any of my other Bridgesii (too many spines, 4-8 per areole) and I was thinking it may be T.Peruvianus as the spines are amber to dark brown (Not white at base like a Cuzco) and it has quite a blue-ish cast to it.

What do you guys think?
I'm not too worried as it's a beautiful plant and it looks like a mescaline containing Trichocereus, Just wanted to hear your thoughts.

teesus · 11-02-09, 13:48

it looks very similar to one of my plants. I call mine bridgesii, even tho i had the impression that bridgesii is supposed to have 3-5 long spines, not one prominent spine and couple of smalls per areole, like this one has. still this plant looks very bridgesii like, not like a peruvianus imo

paph · 11-02-09, 13:58

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Originally Posted by teesus

it looks very similar to one of my plants. I call mine bridgesii, even tho i had the impression that bridgesii is supposed to have 3-5 long spines, not one prominent spine and couple of smalls per areole, like this one has. still this plant looks very bridgesii like, not like a peruvianus imo

Thanks teesus.

teesus · 11-03-09, 08:09

here are some shots of the plants i have. i bought them small crowed together in one pot. i assume they are all from the same seeds, they look very similar to each other, but there is variety in colour and lenght of the spines.
first is the tallest of those plants. similar to yours but new spines are yellow and not as fat

this one makes brownish new spines

this one makes small brown spines which fall off very easy and did not produce long spines at all so far

(i'm quite shure)this is a small peruvianus. new spines are brown and it started getting glaucus this season. the areoles are bigger and more close-spaced than bridgesii areoles.

paph · 11-03-09, 09:50

Cool teesus, It's awesome how similar they look to mine to mine!

Thanks for posting those pictures!

You have got some very handsome looking cacti there.

teesus · 11-03-09, 10:25

thank you! i like this peruvianus a lot, its from the first batch of seeds i raised and finaly looks like a grown up, even its still not more than 15 cm big. but it more than doubled size during this season and i hope it will do the same next year.
the bridgesii you posted is a nice speciem, too. i like the blueing. did you leave it on the window sill all year?

paph · 11-03-09, 10:54

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Originally Posted by teesus

thank you! i like this peruvianus a lot, its from the first batch of seeds i raised and finaly looks like a grown up, even its still not more than 15 cm big. but it more than doubled size during this season and i hope it will do the same next year.
the bridgesii you posted is a nice speciem, too. i like the blueing. did you leave it on the window sill all year?

Yes I leave it on the window sill all year as the room my cacti are in gets quite cool during the winter.

copelandiaKidd · 11-03-09, 13:34

whatever it is, it is gorgeous!!!!!

Irishlion · 11-03-09, 14:51

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Originally Posted by paph

I got hold of this cactus back in early March, It was sold to me as T.Bridgesii.
It doesnt look like any of my other Bridgesii (too many spines, 4-8 per areole) and I was thinking it may be T.Peruvianus as the spines are amber to dark brown (Not white at base like a Cuzco) and it has quite a blue-ish cast to it.

What do you guys think?
I'm not too worried as it's a beautiful plant and it looks like a mescaline containing Trichocereus, Just wanted to hear your thoughts.

Trichocereus Bridgesii longispinus

Irishlion · 11-03-09, 15:04

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Originally Posted by teesus

here are some shots of the plants i have. i bought them small crowed together in one pot. i assume they are all from the same seeds, they look very similar to each other, but there is variety in colour and lenght of the spines.
first is the tallest of those plants. similar to yours but new spines are yellow and not as fat
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would help to see a pic of the whole plant

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Originally Posted by teesus

this one makes brownish new spines
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Trichocereus Bridgesii Longispinus

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Originally Posted by teesus

this one makes small brown spines which fall off very easy and did not produce long spines at all so far
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it is possibly a short spined Var of Trichocereus Peruvanius, as it looks much like a pedro which shortspined torchs are often mistaken for. But, thier spines will be a half inch long or so, and with pedro their spines usually don't get over 3/8" long if that, usually about 1/4" or it could be a hybrid but, my guess goes on shortspined torch

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Originally Posted by teesus

(i'm quite sure)this is a small peruvianus. new spines are brown and it started getting glaucus this season. the areoles are bigger and more close-spaced than bridgesii areoles.

Also that last pic you have, the trichocereus with the greyish/whiteish looking spines it looks to be trichocereus cuzcoensis, those white spines are dictatant of the cuz cactus but, yet it also has brown spines cascading toward the base. Perhaps a better pic of it, and a top pic as well? Are the new spines on it greenish yellow or are they a amber with a redish at the base? As it is quite possible to be another damn hybrid. There are so many hybrids that is makes idenifying them very diffucult. This cactus seems to hold traits of both cactus which leads me to beleive that it could possibly be a hybrid of the 2. can tell you for sure with better pics though. The one below

paph · 11-03-09, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Irishlion

Trichocereus Bridgesii longispinus

Thanks Irishlion!

teesus · 11-03-09, 16:49

thanks to have a look at my plants also, irish. i think the first three of my plants all are bridgesii, even the one with the short spines. its from the same batch as the longispinus and has the same stem colour, different from the pachs and perus i have. the last one is probably not a cuzcoenis, i was worryed it could be one before, but i'm quite confident now. it don't realy has white spines, but brown with a greyish shine to it, looks more white on the pic. also the new spines are brown. of course these could all be hybrids as well.

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11-02-09, 12:46	#1 (permalink)
paph Corny Piskie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 486	Peruvianus, Bridgesii or ? I got hold of this cactus back in early March, It was sold to me as T.Bridgesii. It doesnt look like any of my other Bridgesii (too many spines, 4-8 per areole) and I was thinking it may be T.Peruvianus as the spines are amber to dark brown (Not white at base like a Cuzco) and it has quite a blue-ish cast to it. What do you guys think? I'm not too worried as it's a beautiful plant and it looks like a mescaline containing Trichocereus, Just wanted to hear your thoughts. Attached Thumbnails

11-03-09, 08:09	#4 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	here are some shots of the plants i have. i bought them small crowed together in one pot. i assume they are all from the same seeds, they look very similar to each other, but there is variety in colour and lenght of the spines. first is the tallest of those plants. similar to yours but new spines are yellow and not as fat this one makes brownish new spines this one makes small brown spines which fall off very easy and did not produce long spines at all so far (i'm quite shure)this is a small peruvianus. new spines are brown and it started getting glaucus this season. the areoles are bigger and more close-spaced than bridgesii areoles. Attached Thumbnails

11-03-09, 13:34	#8 (permalink)
copelandiaKidd Void Of Boundaries Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 579	whatever it is, it is gorgeous!!!!! __________________ "LEARN THE RULES SO YOU CAN BREAK THEM PROPERLY" -The Dali lama "i don't care if it eats my cat, as long as the damn thing fruits"~ prism

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11-02-09, 13:48	#2 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	it looks very similar to one of my plants. I call mine bridgesii, even tho i had the impression that bridgesii is supposed to have 3-5 long spines, not one prominent spine and couple of smalls per areole, like this one has. still this plant looks very bridgesii like, not like a peruvianus imo

11-03-09, 09:50	#5 (permalink)
paph Corny Piskie Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 486	Cool teesus, It's awesome how similar they look to mine to mine! Thanks for posting those pictures! You have got some very handsome looking cacti there.

11-03-09, 10:25	#6 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	thank you! i like this peruvianus a lot, its from the first batch of seeds i raised and finaly looks like a grown up, even its still not more than 15 cm big. but it more than doubled size during this season and i hope it will do the same next year. the bridgesii you posted is a nice speciem, too. i like the blueing. did you leave it on the window sill all year?

11-03-09, 16:49	#12 (permalink)
teesus alzheimer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 482	thanks to have a look at my plants also, irish. i think the first three of my plants all are bridgesii, even the one with the short spines. its from the same batch as the longispinus and has the same stem colour, different from the pachs and perus i have. the last one is probably not a cuzcoenis, i was worryed it could be one before, but i'm quite confident now. it don't realy has white spines, but brown with a greyish shine to it, looks more white on the pic. also the new spines are brown. of course these could all be hybrids as well.