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Old 02-05-05, 12:13   #1 (permalink)
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I've been doing some research online on lung cleansing/quitting smoking (cigarettes). I've heard that Mullein is a good expectorant. Smoking it supposedly helps some of the phlegm to be broken up. Some other plants that were recommended were Horehound and Coltsfoot.
Now to the interesting one....
Lobelia. Apparently when you smoke this your body thinks it is nicotine because the molecule is the same shape and it fits in the cells just like nicotine. Now I guess it is potent, so you gotta be careful.
Does anyone have any more information regarding this? Or if any of this is accurate? Thanks.
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Old 02-06-05, 12:38   #2 (permalink)
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<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

I've heard that Mullein is a good expectorant.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

I've heard the same thing about marijuana
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Old 02-07-05, 10:54   #3 (permalink)
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<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>quote:</font>

I've heard the same thing about marijuana<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
yep, works good, although I still get cravings after i smoke a bowl because I;m so used to that order of opreations
 
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Heres a little bit on Lobelia

http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/l/lobeli38 .html#med


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Lobelia is also known by the names Indian Tobacco, Wild Tobacco, Emetic Herb, Emetic Weed, Asthma Weed, Rag Root, Vomit Wort, Pukeweed, and Bladderpod. The herb is named after the botanist Matthias de Lobel, a native of Lille, who died in London in 1616. The common name Lobelia also includes the species Lobelia siphilitica, Lobelia cardinalis and Lobelia chinensis, all of which are used interchangeably with Lobelia inflata. Lobelia is native to North America, and was both chewed and smoked by Native Americans. The root of Lobelia was used by the Iroquois Indians to treat syphilis, hence the species name "siphilitica". This herb was also placed in the bed of quarreling couples to help them regain their love. The plant was also known to the Penobscot Indians, and was widely used in New England long before the time of Samuel Thomson, who is credited with its discovery. It was brought into general professional use by Cutler of Massachusetts. The leaves of this plant are used primarily, because the seeds &amp; root are more potent, and are considered more likely to cause side effects. Lobelia was frequently used by midwives as a sedative, for its muscle relaxing effects, in preparation for childbirth. Today, Lobelia is used as an effective blood cleanser, and also to treat a variety of respiratory problems. As one of the most useful muscle relaxants, Lobelia is rich in vitamin A, vitamin C, and manganese. It is used as an expectorant, expelling phlegm from the lungs, and relieving congestion that is typically related to asthma and bronchitis. Lobelia has also been known to reduce cold and flu symptoms, suppress coughing, and stimulate perspiration, cooling down the body to help break fevers. Lobelia is considered beneficial for treating mild depression, reducing inflammation &amp; pain, easing muscle tension, and calming the nerves. It also acts as a mild laxative for alleviating constipation. Lobelia is often used as a tobacco substitute to help those who wish to quit smoking - the alkaloid Lobeline mimics the effects of nicotine. It has long been used to treat poisonous stings and bites. The primary chemical constituents of this herb include piperidine alkaloids (lobeline, isolobeline), lobelic acid, chelidonic acid, glycoside (lobelacrin), essential oil, resins, and fats. The activity of Lobelia is dependent upon a liquid alkaloid first isolated by Proctor in 1838, who named it "lobeline". Lobelia also contains gum, resin, chlorophyll, fixed oil, lignin, and salts of lime &amp; potassium, along with ferric oxide. Lobelia may be used in many conditions in combination with other herbs to further their effectiveness.



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marijuana is a given.... and I'm with vroota! on that one.... although, if I dont have any herb, then i am more prone to smoking cigarettes. i can substitute them pretty easily. I'm gonna go try to find some lobelia, sounds interesting.
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I quit by reducing the amount I smoked then just quitting and smoking cannabis. Been a month or so and I'm fine, no probs...
 
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And just wait and see how much longer you'll stay
high off single bowls not "regenerating the high"
with cigarettes (really I think the marijuana high
causes one to become more aware of the nicotine
making the individual feel they are higher, at least
until the nicotine wears off).
 
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