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Old 10-31-07, 17:18   #1 (permalink)
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Question very pure opium powder, easily

i have never tried this method but a foaf said he had good results with the following...
- hot water extract (tea basically) on dried poppy powder
- multiple defats with toluene
- evap and yield fine tan brown powder that will drop you in one hit

how does this sound?
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Old 10-31-07, 19:39   #2 (permalink)
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Like a great way to od. Also, there is a much better solvent for that purpose, never mind getting to acetic anhydride. One should be very careful w/cns depressants, never mind doing a melting point on it to determine what you actually have. The dosage is a bit tricky w/no tolerance, you should be careful & maybe leave a note in your pocket...
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Morphine is water soluble at very low temperatures. Boiling will extract lots of oils and other unwanted actives.
Add a little sulfuric acid, making morphine sulfate - highly soluble in water, which allows you to run it through all kinds of filters. If you had a buckner filter, you could make some pretty pure morphine sulfate crystal. Then just use some ammonia to base-ify it, maybe?
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Old 10-31-07, 20:45   #4 (permalink)
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my foaf is extremely carfeful with dosing something that hasnt been tested. he will very gradually up the dose from a spritz until desired effect is reached. what precisely does acetic anhydride do? my foaf is not trying to make heroin or anything fancy, just clean opium easily. would toluene cause a loss in yield?
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Purifying Opium

The chemist starts by purifying the opium. This is done by first boiling the raw opium in water, causing the alkaloids to disolve so that solids and other impurities may be strained from the mixture. The remaining solution is then heated over a low flame to evaporate the water. The paste that remains may be ingested or processed further.

Isoloating Morphine

The chemsist then dissolves the proccessed opium in boiling water and adds about one-fifth as much slaked lime as opium. Adding the lime converts the morphine into a salt - calcium corphenate - without having much effect on the other alkaloids. This is done because morphine - like most other alkaloids in opium - is not soluable in cold water.
After this new solution is cooled, the other alkaloids are precipitated out by filtering the solution through a coarse fabric like burlap to remove all of the solids, leaving just the morphine salt solution.
This solution is heated with about one quarter as much ammonium chloride as the processed opium until the pH reaches 8 or 9. When this solution is cooled, the morphine will precipitate out. This solid morphine is filtered, pressed to remove excesive water, and then air dried. The results is a dark brown powder.
To further purify the morphine, it may be combined with dilute hydrochloric acid - making morphine hydrochloride - and activated charcoal and filtered repeatedly. This results in white powder.

The white powder would be pure morphine. (note: pure morphine powder is NOT heroin, heroin is a modified version of morphine which is more able to easily pass into the body, thus being more effient with less amount. to do that would require use of restricted chemicals)


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Thanks SF, didn't want to explain too much as I don't know where Hip stands on these instructions. It is in the interest of safety...And for our viewers at home, that may not understand that certain scene in Pulp Fiction.
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The big question in my mind is if that tek will work with dried powder, or if you have to start with actual latex from fresh pods.
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i got some sediment in a glass that i've been too lazy to filter.. as far as i can tell it should be morphine base.. only thing is i can't seem to find a good dosing direction.. i've seen pills from 15-100mg, which is a pretty big range..
it was made with pods and an acid/base extract...
if anybody knows a good dosing amount for the stuff i would probibly be motivated to strain and dry it out
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Old 11-01-07, 03:29   #9 (permalink)
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yo jesus, im not sure which tek you were referring to but the one i first posted has only been done with dried poppy powder. the end product was a very potent tannish brown powder with no goopiness or even stickyness. the reason i post in such a question style manner is to see if there is a better way or if yield might be lost using this tek. ive never done it so i dont know how efficient it is but i do know it yields strong cleanish stuff.
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Yeah Andy I wasn't talking about what you did, but the "isolating morphine" one that suckerfree posted, it seems all the stuff I read about morphine always starts with opium, which is different than "poppy goo". I'll guess we'll have to wait till someone tries it with dried pods to know for sure.

Your tek seems to be really interesting tho, I'd love to see a step by step with pics if you ever get the chance.
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i have just that sort of experiment in the works with the pods.. i'm just wondering what a good medium dose of morphine would be.
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Purifying Opium

The chemist starts by purifying the opium. This is done by first boiling the raw opium in water, causing the alkaloids to disolve so that solids and other impurities may be strained from the mixture. The remaining solution is then heated over a low flame to evaporate the water. The paste that remains may be ingested or processed further.

Isoloating Morphine

The chemsist then dissolves the proccessed opium in boiling water and adds about one-fifth as much slaked lime as opium. Adding the lime converts the morphine into a salt - calcium corphenate - without having much effect on the other alkaloids. This is done because morphine - like most other alkaloids in opium - is not soluable in cold water.
After this new solution is cooled, the other alkaloids are precipitated out by filtering the solution through a coarse fabric like burlap to remove all of the solids, leaving just the morphine salt solution.
This solution is heated with about one quarter as much ammonium chloride as the processed opium until the pH reaches 8 or 9. When this solution is cooled, the morphine will precipitate out. This solid morphine is filtered, pressed to remove excesive water, and then air dried. The results is a dark brown powder.
To further purify the morphine, it may be combined with dilute hydrochloric acid - making morphine hydrochloride - and activated charcoal and filtered repeatedly. This results in white powder.

The white powder would be pure morphine. (note: pure morphine powder is NOT heroin, heroin is a modified version of morphine which is more able to easily pass into the body, thus being more effient with less amount. to do that would require use of restricted chemicals)


hope that helps

could you go into more detail of the processing please suckerfree?

"the morphine will precipitate out. This solid morphine is filtered, pressed to remove excesive water, and then air dried. The results is a dark brown powder.
To further purify the morphine, it may be combined with dilute hydrochloric acid - making morphine hydrochloride - and activated charcoal and filtered repeatedly. This results in white powder."

this part doesnt make any sense.

how will the morphine precipitate out?

and then filter again and "pressed" to remove exess water?? at this stage it would seem filtering it again wouldnt do anything,,,,, please explain
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I haven't done the tek myself.. yet. But I imagine it goes like this:
[ dissolves the proccessed opium in boiling water ]
which probably is a brownish liquid
[Adding the lime converts the morphine into a salt - calcium corphenate ]
[ This is done because morphine - like most other alkaloids in opium - is not soluable in cold water.]
after converted to salt, the next is possible...
[After this new solution is cooled, the other alkaloids are precipitated out by filtering the solution through a coarse fabric like burlap to remove all of the solids, leaving just the morphine salt solution]
meaning now the morphine salt is in liquid form even at cool temp, everything solid is filtered out leaving only morphine liquid.
[This solution is heated with about one quarter as much ammonium chloride as the processed opium until the pH reaches 8 or 9. When this solution is cooled, the morphine will precipitate out]
precipitate out - probably means it will fall to the bottom of the container (out of the liquid) (as with DMT, a pop in the freezer might help)
[This solid morphine is filtered, pressed to remove excesive water, and then air dried. The results is a dark brown powder]
probably use filter paper to collect it, press it (maybe cellophane and a vise? maybe can omit that for a longer drying time), and air dry
[To further purify the morphine, it may be combined with dilute hydrochloric acid - making morphine hydrochloride - and activated charcoal and filtered repeatedly. This results in white powder.]
morphine hydrochloride will be a powder, which isn't very soluable in water. after using charcoal (like doing a carbon wash on dmt) then filtered through filter paper and dried again...
hope that helps clarify... i maybe wrong.. but this is how i believe to have read it.

(the first filtering is to remove all solids from the morphine liquid, the second filtering is to remove the morphine from the liquid, the third filtering is just cleaning up the powder to a better shade of white... get it?)
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Where does one aquire poppy powder?
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order dried poppy pods i think.
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