First coir mono in a long time.

[carolo]

Just thought I'd share a pic of my first straight coir mono in a long time.

In the past I kept getting the mean green OR hundreds of tiny fruits no taller than 2 inches. I adjusted my holes, stopped using polyfill, and used a few cups less water to the coir.




I'll update in a day or two. Gonna try to make some prints to donate.

[mestophilies]

Lookin good! Congrats on the grow keep us updated with weight after run!

[carolo]

Thanks!
I'll try to take a pic each day for everyone.

Don't own a scale Thought it would be best not to have one around due to legal reasons.

I will borrow one from a friend to get you all some numbers though

Pretty sure the size of the container is your standard rubbermaid 18 gallon.
A brick of coir fits nicely inside them.

[mestophilies]

don't blame you on the scale. But if you decide to get on (I find mine essential for dosing etc.) Keep it in a kitchen drawer at all times. If any issues arise it is for weighing measurements, it's a whole lot more accurate when baking then getting out the cups and stuff.

[dial8]

Looking real good! What strain you growing there?

[carolo]

good idea mestoph!
I'll keep that in mind. thanks

dial8. im not sure of the strain
I'll have to check my notes when I get home.
im pretty sure its brazil or pfclassic.

[dial8]

Ok cool. Well please keep us updated. That is a good looking grow you got there.

[eatyualive]

excellent. also, if the water was building up the lids and dripping on the sub, this could have caused your mean green.

[carolo]

The instructions always said to use a gallon of hot water to a brick. I had massive water build up so I used 2 cups less each time and they seemed to get better.

A few times I had a worthless crop but as soon as I switched to a diff sub I did much better.

Straight coir does pretty well and its cheap. I like to use more expensive compost for my hpoo bags.

[carolo]

No time to take pics yesterday.

Here we are 2 days later from the last picture I posted.

happy valentines day

[MrChen]

Downright beautiful! Well done! I always love the spore patterns on the top of caps!

[carolo]

should i pick them all?
or just the ones that are ready?

im afraid if i start grabbing the ones that are ready ill damage the others that arent.

i was going to just wait to harvest everything tomorrow.

any suggestions?

thanks everyone

[Shroomette]

Wow! I'm speechless! Excellent job on your grow!

[carolo]

Thanks

I threw a brick of coir in a cooler and added 14 cups of boiling water.
Closed cooler and hours later mixed the coir with about 3-4 quarts of spawn in an 18 or 21 gallon rubbermaid. Think it was 18.

Put two 1inch holes next to each other on all 4 sides 8inches up from the bottom. Used tyvek because I seem to always have bad luck with pollyfill

I made this mono almost a week after I made some invitro poo bags and the bags are JUST now starting to pin and most havent.

Mono's ftw!

[carolo]

well I decided to harvest anyways... thank god I did.

my dehydrator is going to be working overtime

[mushaboom]

duude carolo i am so jealous ...

i did a straight coir monotub as well and i ended up with a buttload of 1-2" fruits, when i was expecting a buttload of ginormous ones! i guess you could say mine is not really a monotub though. it has no holes in it, i merely open it up and fan and mist manually. i wonder, if i were to put the holes in my tub like you have done, would that correct my problem?

[Raziel]

Nice harvest

I love coir, I have had some really good yeild with straight coir . Im doing my first manure, straw, vermiculite and coir grow now and I'm going to compare with my straight coir grows.

Very nice Carolo !

[carolo]

Originally Posted by mushaboom

duude carolo i am so jealous ...

i did a straight coir monotub as well and i ended up with a buttload of 1-2" fruits, when i was expecting a buttload of ginormous ones! i guess you could say mine is not really a monotub though. it has no holes in it, i merely open it up and fan and mist manually. i wonder, if i were to put the holes in my tub like you have done, would that correct my problem?

I have had that very same problem. Tons of tiny tiny fruits. It's happened to me quite a few times. With coir and with hpoo.

I've been having real good luck with coir lately. Mono's are set and forget. No need to open to fan or mist. You need to put a few holes for FAE. That is most likely your problem. I'd bet on it.

Cover the holes with tyvek (free at the post office) or stuff it with some pollyfill. Most use the poly but I like tyvek.


thanks all for the kind words.

[bmad]

very nice grow.

I have been using verm coir and composted manure only getting a few fruits at a time. I believe I will be doing the coir only with the same style set up you have here.

again very nice grow

[TrickyNicky]

Nice job on the monotub
I have almost the same tub now only polyfill furnace vents stacked over the holes, seems like the tyvek works great and is a little simpler.

Ive had great results with straight coir spawned with whole grain in dub tubs

[surf.shaman]

so this was just coir and spawn... without a casing layer?

[TrickyNicky]

Looks like Carlos were without a casing layer,
My examples were cased with verm/coir at 70/30

Carlos: do you mist at all or does that condensation build on the side by itself?
mine seem to dry out and I have to mist the sides every few days which is a pain

[carolo]

Straight coir with WBS spawn. I go heavy on the spawn. Always.
No casing layer.
Mix it all up. Set and forget. I peaked 2 or 3 times. Once 5 days after to make sure it was done colonizing. And the rest for the pics.
The condensation in that picture is how it builds up on its own. The only time I will mist is when I see the actual brick of coir shrinking in size as the fruits grow. I do this maybe once or twice tops(misting the walls).
Post dry weight tomorrow.

[mushroommaster7]

carolo, this is exactly the route i plan to take when my spawn is ready... nice to see how this possibility can work out...

why don't you like polyfil?

[blonthedl]

awesome! good grow.

[TrickyNicky]

Carolo: Hmm, I wish mine would keep its humidity. maby the tyvek allows for less evaporation than my polyfill and the same gas exchange?
I will be trying tyvek soon

seems like the pinset was centered in the substrate a little?
any ideas on why?

Thanks for show and tell BTW

[Mermaidia]

beautiful tub!

[eatyualive]

nice job. what strain is it? very nice yellow/white color on those.

archive material

[eatyualive]

looked on ralphsters. id bet those are brazillian.

excellent job. thats a strain i want to try for sure!

[mydarling]

nice harvest man! what flush is that? first? i almost always get lots and lots of tiny ass fruits on the first flush, but second flush (after a dunk) has much larger fruits. every time!

btw, i have had no issues with drying out using polyfil in my monotubs... always get condensation on the sides/top that has to be wiped with a paper towel at least once a day.

one more thing: you can in fact pick the mature ones while leaving the rest to mature another day or two. it won't affect them adversely at all, even if they're from the same cluster.

nice job lovely pics as well

[carolo]

dont like the polyfil just because i've never had a really successful mono with it. every time i pull something decent its been with the tyvek. most likely just coincidence.

darling. this was all first flush. when i had the problems with tons of small fruits they never got larger. not even after a dunk

i thught i would have a dry weight by now after 2 whole days in the nesco dehydrator. guess not.

i put one tray in the dehydrator to see if it would speed things up and stuck the rest infront of a nice sized fan. going to see if the one tray will dry up faster. usually takes me less than a day but maybe i jus really overloaded the dehydrator with too much fungus.

[Sidestreet Getaway]

Carolo and mushaboom,

I've also had the tiny fruits problem with coir. Can't for the life of me figure out what the deal is...

Carolo, did you increase the amount of spawn this time? How much did you use? Did you use the same brand of coir as before?

Oh yeah, and nice job!

[eatyualive]

Originally Posted by carolo

dont like the polyfil just because i've never had a really successful mono with it. every time i pull something decent its been with the tyvek. most likely just coincidence.

darling. this was all first flush. when i had the problems with tons of small fruits they never got larger. not even after a dunk

i thught i would have a dry weight by now after 2 whole days in the nesco dehydrator. guess not.

i put one tray in the dehydrator to see if it would speed things up and stuck the rest infront of a nice sized fan. going to see if the one tray will dry up faster. usually takes me less than a day but maybe i jus really overloaded the dehydrator with too much fungus.

way to tweak your setup the way it works best for you. interesting that the holes in the center like that seem to be giving you such great results. the height of those tubs helps as well. really nice job there!

[eatyualive]

are you soaking your grain? and what type of grain were you using?

sometimes when you have low nutes you get short fruits. usually best to add 4-5 quarts of spawn with some nutes to the sub. but the results are random sometimes with wbs grain cased str8 or done with coir like this. ive had great results and not so great results when using grain spawn for the sole nutrient source.

ive actually had this happen on a tex run i had about a year ago. i used low spawn ratio with wbs and coir only. it fruited. but all small fruits. only used 2 quarts spawn with no more bulk to the bulk. needed to bulk up the nutes big time. the nutrients couldn't support the fruit.

if you find it happening again. add some nutes to your subs. ive also read around that sometimes this happens when you don't soak your grain long enough. but thats debatable. never seen solid enough results.

also im usually using the wbs spawn i use for spawning only. not as a nute base. so my one hour soak does me no harm.

[carolo]

Originally Posted by Sidestreet Getaway

Carolo and mushaboom,

I've also had the tiny fruits problem with coir. Can't for the life of me figure out what the deal is...

Carolo, did you increase the amount of spawn this time? How much did you use? Did you use the same brand of coir as before?

Oh yeah, and nice job!

ive had the tiny fruit problem with coir and with hpoo. so i know its an environmental issue not a substrate issue.

i used a lot of spawn. i dont measure. i just use an entire filterpatch bag worth lol. when doing mono's i use a lot of spawn so contams dont set in

same brand of coir as before. bed a beast from the pet store.


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dry weight 4 ounces and a few grams(maybe 7max)

[mushaboom]

i think my tiny fruit problem was just the strain i took a single strand of ecuador mycelium and then let it colonize a jar. then after that colonized i used it to do more jars. i think i just got unlucky in the strand of mycelium that i picked out. my tub was literally completely covered in these tiny guys that all looked exactly the same(such a pain to pick!). yield was about 1/4 where it should have been, but they are very potent.