South Americans

candykid420 · 02-11-05, 14:21

Okay, so most of you know how much I love that darn Invitro Tek, and I've tried a good amount of strains using this method (GC, EQ, GT, PFC, B+, Texas) so now after seeing how well people do with South Americans I would like to know if this strain has good potential for Invitro?

02-12-05, 03:43

south american is a good choice for invitro,
however, all cubies can be grown invitro

02-12-05, 08:16

SA can do quite well invitro if you get a decent substrain going. might have to nocc up several cakes to find a good candidate to clone but once you did so it'll give nice solid fruits invitro

candykid420 · 02-13-05, 13:54

^^^

Thank you both

Toads tool · 09-30-06, 12:03

1 half pint PF cake ground up and spawned to coir/strawnet/worm poo substrate.
Cased with coir/verm with a pinch of lime one week after spawning.
Sat in a window at a 45 degree angle and forgotten for two weeks.
The right side of the pic was the top of the box. The larger fruits at the top fell down on the lower smaller fruits, giving it the crowded in the middle look. Quarter used for reference in first pick.
The size of the fruits could have been a little bigger and the caps allowed to open but I don't believe it would have added any significant weight just a loss of potency. 550 grams wet, it took ten minutes to split all of the hollow stems for drying.
I usually just dry my shrooms and brush off the casing but I plan on using the stumps in another prodject.

reverend trips · 09-30-06, 13:09

Nicely done!

moorglade · 09-30-06, 13:22

thats it im doin SA next time . great flush

golly · 09-30-06, 13:31

Ya - very nice Mon ...I hate to waste all those stubbs too ,they usually get buried with a lil poo outside...

llamabox · 09-30-06, 14:55

Very nice.

roc · 09-30-06, 15:56

Wow I gotta try the SA.

mook · 09-30-06, 16:46

i got an LC of south americans started. i hope mine does as good as yours. good job

BuckarooBanzai · 09-30-06, 19:44

Very nice work, man. Very nice!!!

mush · 03-29-07, 20:49

I just ate like 6 fresh south american caps and washed them down with orange juice, think I should eat some more?

Sunstar · 03-29-07, 21:37

I think I would wait like 2 or 3 hrs and see how you feel

teletrue · 03-30-07, 18:56

I would've eaten the stems too

chimp · 03-30-07, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by teletrue

I would've eaten the stems too

Yup stems are goooooood!

I never need 2 hours ...depends on when I ate last...but I know if something is up

within 30-45 minutes regardless after ingesting the psilly.

SA caps can get pretty damn big too..maybe oughta invest in a weighing device..you can pick up a digi for less than 25 bucks at most headshops..and for sure less than that on E-Bay

mush · 03-31-07, 15:11

I do have a scale, but after 2 people each ate an eigth, I just ate the best part and as much as I could to be sure I could trip before I threw everything away. I ended up eating about 13 caps and 4 or 5 of the stems, and I have never tripped so hard in my life. It wasn't bad, I thought it was great, but man it was mind blowing.

the jesus · 03-31-07, 15:23

Quote:

I just ate the best part

The stems have more "magic" than the caps. Just to let you know. Common misconception.

Mermaidia · 03-31-07, 16:22

Usually take me about 30-40 minutes to start to feel the magic. But i always fast before and i puree them in the oj. Gotta watch out for the nasty foam if you do it that way.

teletrue · 03-31-07, 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mermaidia

Gotta watch out for the nasty foam if you do it that way.

Nasty foam? and why "watch out" for it?

reverend trips · 03-31-07, 17:00

Bubbly shroomstache. Not a good look!

Mushtache

teletrue · 03-31-07, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by reverend trips

Bubbly shroomstache. Not a good look!

python · 03-31-07, 19:19

SA's Rule!

mush · 03-31-07, 21:48

Stems are more potent? no way...

And I don't think I mentioned, the 2 people who ate them before had no effects whatsoever, I sure did tho

the jesus · 03-31-07, 22:14

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=9591 (caps or stems?)

Be sure to vote.

TVCasualty · 04-01-07, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by mush

Stems are more potent? no way...

And I don't think I mentioned, the 2 people who ate them before had no effects whatsoever, I sure did tho

Way.

There are other important factors, like what stage they were at when harvested and whether you had a full stomach when you ate them or if you'd fasted a few hours, among other things.

I think the idea that caps are 'more' potent than stems comes from thinking about it like pot, (we smoke the top buds and throw out the stems). The caps of mushrooms, especially if they are mature (opened to plane), are producing a massive sporeload, and spores have no psilly in them (thank GOD), so by weight the caps are certainly less potent.

The actual flesh of the mushroom (as opposed to the spores) is just differentiated mycelium, so stem-flesh and cap-flesh are going to be comparably potent...it's just that caps have all that other mass with no potency, which dilutes them a bit. The cap of a mushroom whose veil hasn't yet popped would, I'd bet, be exactly as potent as the stem, but cap potency diminishes quickly relative to stems after the veil rips.

Doctor D · 04-01-07, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVCasualty

I think the idea that caps are 'more' potent than stems comes from thinking about it like pot, (we smoke the top buds and throw out the stems). The caps of mushrooms, especially if they are mature (opened to plane), are producing a massive sporeload, and spores have no psilly in them (thank GOD), so by weight the caps are certainly less potent. .

Welp, I just bumped that dead thread you linked, not realizing it said April 2006, not April 2007. Doh!

But anyway, Shroomery refers to a study which shows caps being more potent than stems. Have you seen figures that show otherwise? For me, the point is moot because I'd never eat one without the other.

ExecutionStyle · 05-20-07, 12:56

south americans.JPG

South American multispore.
Colonized on WBS jars.
Spawned onto, 70/30, cowpoop/peat mix.

That biggun is about 9-10 inches long.

golly · 05-20-07, 13:04

Nice...! That is a long 'n..

spacecake · 05-20-07, 13:05

Nice biggun !!!..weight ?

ExecutionStyle · 05-20-07, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Nice biggun !!!..weight ?

It's around a half ounce (wet). I have a pretty crumby old scale, so that's not too accurate.

gizmoziz · 05-20-07, 14:35

yea nice strain man had the pleasure to try them a few weeks back very relaxing type high

dial8 · 05-21-07, 09:00

Yeah that looks real good, man. Increase your fae's and the stems on those will thicken up quite a bit. So will the caps.

shroom_seeker · 05-21-07, 11:57

Nice work Execution

ExecutionStyle · 05-25-07, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dial8

Yeah that looks real good, man. Increase your fae's and the stems on those will thicken up quite a bit. So will the caps.

Will Do!!! I was wondering what could be done to fatten them up. Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by shroom_seeker

Nice work Execution

Thanks man

Mermaidia · 05-25-07, 06:47

Nice, SA's are one of my fav strains.

PsychoDrogue · 06-11-07, 13:11

I have 3 starter dishes going but this one had the best rhizo starting...

I've never isolated from spores before, just cloned. all i gotta do is cut a chunk of the strandy stuff out and transfer to a new plate? at what point can you tell your down to one strain?

btw the date looks like 5/1 but it was actually 6/1

BigStemz · 06-11-07, 14:22

bueatiful mycelium rite there

i just started working with SA, and damn it colonizes quick!!!

PsychoDrogue · 06-11-07, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigStemz

bueatiful mycelium rite there

i just started working with SA, and damn it colonizes quick!!!

yeah. i've got some ksss right next to em from the same day that just germ'd, and some pan cyan cambos that are about the size of quarters. the south americans have all come to a point i need to transfer soon as they are running out of room

Freaky · 06-11-07, 20:44

Very nice looking dish!!!!

Transfer it before it reaches the edge of the dish. That is where contams are more likely to be.

And you've got it right, transfer a small piece of the mycelium into a new dish. I prefer a scalpel. I can slice just the top layer of agar, and then poke it with the tip of the blade to transfer over. Make sure you sterilize whatever blade you are using between each transfer. An alcohol lamp works well. You can make a homemade one out of a half pint jar with lid, a piece of sock, and some 99% isopropyl alcohol.

The more dishes you transfer into, the more isolates you are making.

You'll know you've got an isolate when it grows uniformly across the plate, all of the rhizomorphic mycelium strands will grow at roughly the same rate and in the same pattern.

Good luck and you'll have fun fruiting your different isolates. Make sure you label good

PsychoDrogue · 06-11-07, 23:45

thanks for the advice. looks like its time to pick up more dishes. i just realized i had run out when i made these and i have nothing to transfer into.

off to the science store tomorrow.

Odin 13 · 06-12-07, 13:14

Iffin you got the bucks & plan to be doing alot of agar work from here on out, (most folks get into it after they try it) buy a whole case of dishes. They aren't a whole lot of cash, a discount kicks in for that many. Ask, you might be surprized.

PsychoDrogue · 06-12-07, 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin 13

Iffin you got the bucks & plan to be doing alot of agar work from here on out, (most folks get into it after they try it) buy a whole case of dishes. They aren't a whole lot of cash, a discount kicks in for that many. Ask, you might be surprized.

yeah, they actually had cases displayed at discount prices, but i'm too broke right now to buy more than 2 sleeves along with a few other misc supplies.

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02-11-05, 14:21	#1 (permalink)
candykid420 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 1973 Posts: 436	South Americans Okay, so most of you know how much I love that darn Invitro Tek, and I've tried a good amount of strains using this method (GC, EQ, GT, PFC, B+, Texas) so now after seeing how well people do with South Americans I would like to know if this strain has good potential for Invitro?

09-30-06, 13:22	#7 (permalink)
moorglade Mycophage Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 161	thats it im doin SA next time . great flush __________________ Mind over Matter

09-30-06, 14:55	#9 (permalink)
llamabox Researcher Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,313	Very nice. __________________ By, Rocketman "Well since you asked....."

09-30-06, 15:56	#10 (permalink)
roc Old Man Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 4,460	Wow I gotta try the SA. __________________ ubuntu! Member of Native Geekaho Tribe. "Think for yourself and question authority"

02-12-05, 03:43	#2 (permalink)
~ªb·sinth Guest Posts: n/a	south american is a good choice for invitro, however, all cubies can be grown invitro

02-12-05, 08:16	#3 (permalink)
~hippie3 Guest Posts: n/a	SA can do quite well invitro if you get a decent substrain going. might have to nocc up several cakes to find a good candidate to clone but once you did so it'll give nice solid fruits invitro

02-13-05, 13:54	#4 (permalink)
candykid420 Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 1973 Posts: 436	^^^ Thank you both

09-30-06, 13:09	#6 (permalink)
reverend trips Former Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,365	Nicely done!

09-30-06, 13:31	#8 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,227	Ya - very nice Mon ...I hate to waste all those stubbs too ,they usually get buried with a lil poo outside...

09-30-06, 16:46	#11 (permalink)
mook Humble Student Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 133	i got an LC of south americans started. i hope mine does as good as yours. good job __________________ The World Is My Playground...... Explore the Universe, Feel True Love, Find Inner Peace 1956-2009....You are truly missed my friend...

09-30-06, 19:44	#12 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,053	Very nice work, man. Very nice!!! __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)

03-29-07, 20:49	#13 (permalink)
mush Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	South Americans I just ate like 6 fresh south american caps and washed them down with orange juice, think I should eat some more?

03-29-07, 21:37	#14 (permalink)
Sunstar Gazer of the innerself Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,095	I think I would wait like 2 or 3 hrs and see how you feel __________________ I'm just sitting here watching the wheels go round and round, how I love to watch them roll ~John Lennon~

03-30-07, 18:56	#15 (permalink)
teletrue Mycophage Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 183	I would've eaten the stems too __________________ I love this hobby. =)

03-31-07, 15:11	#17 (permalink)
mush Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	I do have a scale, but after 2 people each ate an eigth, I just ate the best part and as much as I could to be sure I could trip before I threw everything away. I ended up eating about 13 caps and 4 or 5 of the stems, and I have never tripped so hard in my life. It wasn't bad, I thought it was great, but man it was mind blowing.

03-31-07, 16:22	#19 (permalink)
Mermaidia Comfortably Numb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,021	Usually take me about 30-40 minutes to start to feel the magic. But i always fast before and i puree them in the oj. Gotta watch out for the nasty foam if you do it that way. __________________ Real tears are not those that fall from the eyes and cover the face but those that fall from the heart and cover the soul.

03-31-07, 17:00	#21 (permalink)
reverend trips Former Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,365	Bubbly shroomstache. Not a good look! Mushtache Last edited by reverend trips; 04-01-07 at 08:26.

03-31-07, 19:19	#23 (permalink)
python Former Member Join Date: Apr 1973 Posts: 2,652	SA's Rule!

03-31-07, 21:48	#24 (permalink)
mush Mycophiliac Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 11	Stems are more potent? no way... And I don't think I mentioned, the 2 people who ate them before had no effects whatsoever, I sure did tho

03-31-07, 22:14	#25 (permalink)
the jesus mayor of boozeville Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,637	http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthread.php?t=9591 (caps or stems?) Be sure to vote.

05-20-07, 12:56	#28 (permalink)
ExecutionStyle Piddler Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 275	South Americans south americans.JPG South American multispore. Colonized on WBS jars. Spawned onto, 70/30, cowpoop/peat mix. That biggun is about 9-10 inches long. __________________ ============================== We can only be what we give ourselves the power to be. ==============================

05-20-07, 13:04	#29 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,227	Nice...! That is a long 'n..

05-20-07, 13:05	#30 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,810	Nice biggun !!!..weight ? __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

05-20-07, 14:35	#32 (permalink)
gizmoziz Mycophiliac Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 16	yea nice strain man had the pleasure to try them a few weeks back very relaxing type high

05-21-07, 09:00	#33 (permalink)
dial8 3 Join Date: Jun 1976 Posts: 4,420	Yeah that looks real good, man. Increase your fae's and the stems on those will thicken up quite a bit. So will the caps.

05-21-07, 11:57	#34 (permalink)
shroom_seeker Editor Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,492	Nice work Execution __________________ We are on the cutting edge of the revolution Free their minds and their asses will follow - H3

05-25-07, 06:47	#36 (permalink)
Mermaidia Comfortably Numb Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,021	Nice, SA's are one of my fav strains. __________________ Real tears are not those that fall from the eyes and cover the face but those that fall from the heart and cover the soul.

06-11-07, 14:22	#38 (permalink)
BigStemz prophet of peace Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 603	bueatiful mycelium rite there i just started working with SA, and damn it colonizes quick!!! __________________ oooommmmhhhH

06-11-07, 20:44	#40 (permalink)
Freaky Head Editor Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,263	Very nice looking dish!!!! Transfer it before it reaches the edge of the dish. That is where contams are more likely to be. And you've got it right, transfer a small piece of the mycelium into a new dish. I prefer a scalpel. I can slice just the top layer of agar, and then poke it with the tip of the blade to transfer over. Make sure you sterilize whatever blade you are using between each transfer. An alcohol lamp works well. You can make a homemade one out of a half pint jar with lid, a piece of sock, and some 99% isopropyl alcohol. The more dishes you transfer into, the more isolates you are making. You'll know you've got an isolate when it grows uniformly across the plate, all of the rhizomorphic mycelium strands will grow at roughly the same rate and in the same pattern. Good luck and you'll have fun fruiting your different isolates. Make sure you label good __________________

06-11-07, 23:45	#41 (permalink)
PsychoDrogue Mycotopiate Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,431	thanks for the advice. looks like its time to pick up more dishes. i just realized i had run out when i made these and i have nothing to transfer into. off to the science store tomorrow.

06-12-07, 13:14	#42 (permalink)
Odin 13 Exciteable Boy! Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 136	Iffin you got the bucks & plan to be doing alot of agar work from here on out, (most folks get into it after they try it) buy a whole case of dishes. They aren't a whole lot of cash, a discount kicks in for that many. Ask, you might be surprized.

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