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Those little hills of crystals are beutiful!!!! What was the freeze precipitation process you used to get those gorgeous bumps?? WS
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Those pictures are simply amazing. Those crystals are so clear... good job! SWIM would be most interested in some dmt tips if you have any as he will be trying his hand at the extraction process as well very very soon. Thanks! |
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that yield is bomb, could you pm me your source? and spill the beans on this tek plz (paticularly the crystal growing) i have no problem getting 1% yield of snow white spice but all my attemps at growing shardy crystals never turned out at all. good work dude
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![]() | i myself would like a look at your a/b ext. guidelines
as from my start in learning the basics from the straight to base i feel it is now time for the expert tecnique as to move torwards the more pure and the better weights. i have recently tried the updated marsfold tek and was queite pleased . due spill the beans for us please
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SWIM will give you all the details how she did the crystallization, its all about extreme high temps and then gentle slow overnight cooling. SWIM jumped into the Machine and went for a ride all day long... here is a tidbit from this days adventure. 4 journeys all at 25mg spaced out about 2 hrs each while brewing another batch of Aya for next weekend, SWIM also is going to test harmala/clear DMT xtals late tonight SWIM just wanted to cruise not jump ship today. Setting the glass pipe down I sit and see; out the window the mountain in front of me start to dissolve into layers of shimmering clear cellophane, waving and pulsating, getting deeper and deeper, revealing the other dimensions/layers/gears behind Creation, suddenly I saw the inner workings of this location, the bio mechanical gears alive, creating and precipitating life. Once again myself creating and participating in this precipitation of the Whole of existence. I ended up in a place we all know, far back in time or is it the future, maybe it exists at the same present and we've forgotten how to remember this moment. A temple of what seemed egyptian, persian, atlantean, mesoamerican, incan, mayan, morphing with fractaline window patterns, encased within the dome. the windows are alive with fractaline entities all swirling to that music, it sounds like star wars bar music, the place is lit by a inner/outer light glow from within/without. Within moments patterns emerge and are superimposed on everything, everywhere. A touch of tribal Aztec Mayan bas relief patterns and images edged with ancient glyphs. It was wonderful, as I watched the poster of a Mandala on the wall of my fiancees house, the Mandala started spinning logically, it made sense it was becoming like a gyroscope filled with multiple spinning worlds. Then the African mask hanging near the kitchen door started to spin in fractaline motion. I felt a cloak of warmth engulf me, a peaceful vibration filled me. I laid back, closed my eyes, only to see this female spirit hugging me as I try to look at her she is hugging me with one arm while the other hugs and encompasses the entire universe at the same time. The goddess of the night suddenly appeared as a cloak surrounding me in a veil of substance that enveloped me into her realm of these high mountain hills. It was very tangible and thick, I had to shut all lights off inside and out. The lights in the hills were like some amorphic insects floating around the dimension. I saw strange beings of light coming towards me within our octave, under that layer we live in. Very awesome. |
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same here.. i hope i get it sooner tho.. i just ground up some bark.. heh or are you just saying that you work fast while things are still hot and when you freeze it you super saturize the naphtha by heating it before you freeze evap it am i getting close? shobimono gave me that tip before..
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Evening, SWIM tried to write up the differences in methods, SWIm will try and answer questions. *** SWIM adds 454g powdered MHRB to 3gal H2O MHRB juice is acidified to pH3 with acidic H2O drop by drop *** SWIM boils down the MHRB juice after filtering and all that other stuff, to 1L and adds 500ml of liquid Lye *** Liquid lye mix 500ml H2O 115oz 100% Lye *** the 1500ml basic solution is split into 2 portions @ 750ml each *** 250ml boiling naphtha used for each pull *** The only thing SWIM does different is to Sing Icaros over the project throughout the whole process, SWIM only uses powdered MHRB and always keeps the basic solution as hot as possible and boils the Naphtha. Then after adding boiling naphtha to the basic solution, SWIM will shake it violently, while singing a special song given to SWIM under the influence Ayahuasca. SWIM never has an emulsion and the mixture separates within 5 min, SWIM then will let it sit about 15min or so. Then SWIM uses a sep funnel to collect the naphtha. SWIM sets aside the first NP extract and keep each NP pull in separate jars. SWIM covers the top and set the jars in a 75F closet on the floor overnight. One thing you'll notice is that the first NP pull clouds up as it cools then clears, in the jar with the first naphtha pull there are always clusters of crystal clear DMT crystals starting to grow after clearing up, one can watch the process over time. Do not disturb. SWIM never freeze precipitates, SWIM just slow cools the concentrated solution and lets it evap over time and these nice clear DMT xtals just gorw in these little crystal clear clustered bursts of DMT blades. There sometimes is a fine coat of yellow oil on the bottom that the clusters adhere to, just swirl the bottom of the jar in boiling hot water for a few seconds on and off untill they free up, pour them off in a filter and dry, clean as you will, then enjoy. The solution the clear clusters were in still contains allot of DMT, evap it to half and set in closet again, harvest more clear DMT. |
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Great crystal growing technique!! How long do the jars normally end up sitting in the closet? Just this last weekend I finnished up an extract and let the "spicy" naptha sit on the counter and cool to room temp for about 2 - 3 hours, then into the fridge for about 8 hours, next into the freezer for 2 days. Today I filtered out clear, thin, shard-like crystals that look alomst exactly like yours but I don't get the little hills made of 'em. I'll have to try the room temp growing. I'm sure the naptha needs to be extreemly hot to hold enough spice fro this to work well. You said you boil the naptha, seems one may loose some DMT to evaporation from the heat of the naptha. Although it doesn't seem to be hurting your yield much. NICE, Thanks!! WS
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![]() | Wow, you boil the naphtha? Is there some sort of safety procedure being utilized here? Maybe I'm just missing something.. I've read about using a sort of secondary apparatus to indirectly heat the solvent, but I guess it just made me think that boiling was risky due to volatility; or maybe that's what those icaros are for....lol Anyway, it's def. looking good so keep it up. Seems like you go through a lot of spice ![]() |
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My freind make the hills too but with rexstal. However has been told the potencey is less than that of yellow. He tried to take pictures but camera can't focus well that close up. They were exactlly just like the mounds and blades description with an exceedingly sparkely appearance only the yellow adhearing them to the glass was more prevalent. I believe it was due to some evaporation and using coleman naptha though.
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Crystal Clear DMT Hello, duaut; this is a very impressive clear quality A/B method SWIM uses. Seems like pure product to me not sure the percentage but the clean white crystals tell the rest of it to me . I am looking for any A/B method (tek) my self but to learn how it would properly be done. Learning from Vovin's technique (Jurema "Mimosa Hostilis" and or Chaliponga "Psychotria viridis", but I have been thinking of basing my own on there. Has your SWIM or you given the product a total weigh of the result?A hypothetical question: Could fractional or column-distillation work for something like this after the product has been collected from the A/B extraction? Basing this hunch (after much reading) of mine from distilling volitle oils and or other active constituents from herbs? I have a 24/40 liebig condenser I am saving usage for when the right project comes its in great condition and very clean. Found it on ebay.com along with many other related cool things. I am keen on the idea of using volatile oils (and other active constituents) and comparing to just A/B of the raw botanical-leaf sources. Congrats to your SWIM one huge mass of wholesome goodness . |
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If you don't mind your spice not looking as pure, leaving the yellow in can lead to more desired effects. Of course, some of the yellow color could be plant fats, so the yellow crystals may smoke harsher. | |
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hi, its my first post i hope u guys can help me, just like u did ![]() absolutley amazing!!!! Its just what i have been looking for all this time, but after searching for days I couldn't find any thing, so I thought it might be impossible to get such a pure form in such a small amount of time. This beats my expectations by far its so pure and so fast ![]() Thank you so much. I was woundering how long u let the acid phase sit u dont say, u just said add it, Do u not say because u dont let it sit? What kind of acid are u using? Naphtha is the defatting part she boils and dumps it in. I think im going to need a gas mask for this one . I'am using phalaris arunadcea is this a bad idea? Its chillen in my freezer as i type this. I have been hearing lots of bad and some good about it..... it grows every where, thats why im using it. One last thing am i suppose to refer to my self as SWIM or when ur referencing a person u know or when u refer to ur self in 3rd person or all or what? hahahahahha sorry, but alot of people are using it and not sure to what its values are just want to make my self a little less ignorant on the forums and just curiosity.i cant seem to find lye where can u get it at walmart or where? i hope you responded dont think u will though...... because im trying to make it soon but i cant find liquid or any lye. I also was wondering what u use to as the acid hcl? can i use white vinger or something thats a little easyer to aquire? thanks
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![]() | Thank both of you I will get my friend to drive me or my bro some time to check it out and buy some. so just buy stuff with 100% lye doesnt matter what brand or any thing else? I'll probly go with the ace brand ty. does any one know or think that i could use white vingar if not what can i use that i can find at a store? I dont want to order off line. Can i get hcl easy, wheres the easyest place to get it? i would prefer to get hcl and use it, but i dont think i can get it. Is there any stores that sell it or something that i could use very similar to it?
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please remember DO NOT BOIL NAPTHA !!!! it is very dangerous and could start a fire super easily again DO NOT BOIL NAPTHA !! always have a fire extinguisher on hand when doing any projects with solvents The results that you get from boiling the naptha are only marginally improved over having it room temperature. If you must heat the reaction, use a crock pot filed with water, then place the liquid to be heated in the a sealed container in the water, remmeber to vent the container every few minutes. and one more time for those who dont get it DO NOT BOIL NAPTHA !!!! |
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no i dont mean on boiling naptha, i mean on the extraction tek. i want to know step by step what SWIM does. im left with many questions to many to type, but if SWIM responed and asks me to lable them i definatly will because i want to know how SWIMS tek fully works. plz plz responded SWIM. Im pretty sure almost 100% sure that SWIM picked the wrong grass he picked orchard grass and not phalaris grass many pics that SWIM had looked at looked like phalaris arundinacea not to many SWIM guesses, but he was pushing it so he picked it. Later on he relized what he really picked and accidently figured out what orchard grass looks like and relized thats what he picked wasting time freezing and shreading the stuff. hope you guys got a good laugh as i did not.....(thats if any one is going to ever see this). Last edited by Beast; 08-15-09 at 21:00. |
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there is al earning curve in extracting DMT. by reading the various teks here you should bea ble to go over the steps in your mind on what , exactly, the process is. If you cant; you need to study more and take less action. If you have questions make them pointed , clear, and specific. We are not going to help you find the correct questions to ask. This is the "bar" between you and what you want. If you want to get over that bar your going to have to step up your game. DMT is a rare and coveted substance and unless you are real close with someone who knows how to extract it you will prolly never see it. I dont think it will ever reach commercial distribution to any degree just because of what it is and what it does. I know if I had some I would keep it hidden under lock and key and only share it with a very few close friends if anyone. For me , i dont want to be responsible for someone having such a heavy experience. DMT is warm and comforting to me everytime it smokes me. Id hate for that relationship to change as it has for some people who have tried to use it for there own egotistical gain. good luck and please ask those questions we will anwser as long as they are specific ( yes or no are the best) when you take time to craft good questions people will take time to craft good anwsers. Hope this helps. |
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Funny thing SWIM does know some one who sells it, but he is not willing to pay for DMT and SWIM does not know any one that makes it so he hopes ur harshly wrong about him never seeing the likes of the stuff. Ty for giving him some tips, though. He simply just need to research on this site. Hes having troubles maneuvering it. Wheres the nook at? How does he get there? ty for the responces glad some ones still around.Quote:
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