base pipe vs regular pipe [DMT]

[TheAngryGolfer]

which is better? I was a strong believer in teh glass bubble base pipe, but yesterday I had my strongest breakthrough yet using a regular pipe with spice sandwiched between thin layers of parsely. I'm not going to go into detail about what I saw, because I was explicitly told not to (hopefully that isnt saying to much, I dont want to anger "them", lol). all the DMT I have ever smoked is from the same batch, so the stuff itself is not a factor.

also any other suggestions besides parsely? it tastes nasty and is harsh. unfortunately, weed is not an option.

I prefer ash or cannabis, but maybe mint leaves... I prefer a freebase pipe for full strong breakthoughs, however for a nice tase, without a full blown introverted trip, smokin it on a bowl of herb with a couple people can bee pleasant, too..

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by pissybee

I prefer ash or cannabis, but maybe mint leaves... I prefer a freebase pipe for full strong breakthoughs, however for a nice tase, without a full blown introverted trip, smokin it on a bowl of herb with a couple people can bee pleasant, too..

yea its wierd... thats what I though too, but yesterdays breakthrough was my strongest yet, by far and it was with a regular pipe.

[lyqwyd]

u guys know a good place to get one of them base pipes? No. 1's i think they're called....... I've asked blowers and head shops round me but no one even knows what im talking about... the meth epidemic hasnt hit the east coast yet i guess. I HATE using a crackpipe for deemsters, coz in that one second before blastoff i have to look at the nasty stem im holding in my hands and it sets me up for a less than awesome time, so a real pase pipe would be killer.

Ever see what Pookie is smokin in New Jack City?? That is a base pipe...

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by lyqwyd

u guys know a good place to get one of them base pipes? No. 1's i think they're called....... I've asked blowers and head shops round me but no one even knows what im talking about... the meth epidemic hasnt hit the east coast yet i guess. I HATE using a crackpipe for deemsters, coz in that one second before blastoff i have to look at the nasty stem im holding in my hands and it sets me up for a less than awesome time, so a real pase pipe would be killer.

I got mine in headshop in greenwich village NYC.....


but try the regular pipe method too... use a nice glass weed pipe, sandwich the DMT between thin layers of parsely, mint, weed, whatever. try to keep the flame from actually touching the stuff when you smoke.

but anyway..... the base pipes look pretty crackhead-ish too.

and im surprised a regular crack pipe would even work right... I thought you are not supposed to use direct flame.

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by pissybee

Ever see what Pookie is smokin in New Jack City?? That is a base pipe...

havent seen that movie in quite a while.... do you have a pic?

what I refer to as a base pipe is a glass tube with a ball at the end with a little hole on top.

[lyqwyd]

"a base pipe is a glass tube with a ball at the end with a little hole on top"
bingo! that's what I'm lookin fer. haven't bothered with the city shops yet, mebbe next time i go in ill poke around. Was it on bleeker st by any chance? i spent a good few hours of a new year's passed out outside one of those places.... and the crack pipe works ok; i just put extra charboy in and more spice than usual. recalls too many bad memories, however. The avatar is a joke, crack is whack. even squirrels get hooked.

[BuckarooBanzai]

I have found that once you really "get there" on any entheogen, it becomes easier to do (with less source materials) the next time. This seems to be a curve I haven't found the bottom of yet. The volume of entheogens I consume these days is a pittance compared to what I used to eat, yet the experiences are far more powerful. The visuals and thoughts I can have on 2-3 grams of dried shrooms are worlds better than what I had on 14 grams, when I first started out. Meditation and directed thinking can be more effective than any MAOI when it comes to intensifying the experience.

I have found this to be true of all psychedelics, but it seems to be especially true with DMT, Amanitas and Datura. These days, I can get a full blown otherworldly experience from smoking 20-30mg of DMT. The 80-100mg shots I used to do I find quite terrifying today. I wouldn't even remotely CONSIDER doing another intramuscular shot of DMT at this point. Experience has demonstrated to me numerous times that "going big" with psychedelics (unless I prepare very carefully) is likely to result in a very uncomfortable experience. It is almost as though I have improved my mental tool kit for delving deep into it. Those tools, once sharpened, can cut very deeply if you are unprepared. "This way lies madness..."

If you have reached the level of conscious communications with the outsiders, the level of really remembering what they say and being cautioned about what to reveal, I would suggest that you'll need less and less DMT for future voyages of similar intensity. I would also humbly suggest that any advice you get from them about waiting a while to come back be heeded. They really seem to dislike having to repeat themselves.

I'll close with two stanzas from a Willie Nelson song (What was it you wanted?) that really put the "conversation with God" into concrete terms for me. Incidentally, if you've never grooved on that album (Across The Borderline) you are missing some really interesting double and triple meanings that are just mind blowing when tripping. Also, Willie has a fantasticly interesting voice...

Whatever you wanted
What could it be
Did somebody tell you
That you could get it from me,
Is it something that comes natural
Is it easy to say,
Why do you want it,
Who are you anyway?

Is the scenery changing,
Am I getting it wrong,
Is the whole thing going backwards,
Are they playing our song?
Where were you when it started
Do you want it for free
What was it you wanted
Are you talking to me?

That one line, "Do you want it for free?" means more to me than I could ever express with such chump things as words.

[iamsmiley]

the base pipe brings back many bad memories,especially if you intend to share with friends,i'd imagine many won't dig that idea.

[waylitjim]

I've tried a traditional bubbler and a freebase pipe. They both work well, so it's just a matter of choice. My preference is a freebase bubbler which helps cool the DMT vapor before it enters my mouth and lungs. The most important thing to remember when smoking, don't let the flame touch the DMT as this can destroy some active alkaloids and lessen the experience. The flame should be kept about 1/2" away from the DMT or heated from underneath a glass bulb. You want to draw in enough heat from the flame to melt and vaporize the DMT. A butane lighter is the best option, but a heat gun can also be used.
Here's my new D bubbler. These are not available on the internet in the U.S.

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[BuckarooBanzai]

Damn, dude, let me wipe the drool off my chin. That sucker looks PERFECT! I especially like the large globe and small draw hole. Plenty of room to chase that oil around...

Nice stuff, man!

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

I have found that once you really "get there" on any entheogen, it becomes easier to do (with less source materials) the next time. This seems to be a curve I haven't found the bottom of yet. The volume of entheogens I consume these days is a pittance compared to what I used to eat, yet the experiences are far more powerful. The visuals and thoughts I can have on 2-3 grams of dried shrooms are worlds better than what I had on 14 grams, when I first started out. Meditation and directed thinking can be more effective than any MAOI when it comes to intensifying the experience.

I have found this to be true of all psychedelics, but it seems to be especially true with DMT, Amanitas and Datura. These days, I can get a full blown otherworldly experience from smoking 20-30mg of DMT. The 80-100mg shots I used to do I find quite terrifying today. I wouldn't even remotely CONSIDER doing another intramuscular shot of DMT at this point. Experience has demonstrated to me numerous times that "going big" with psychedelics (unless I prepare very carefully) is likely to result in a very uncomfortable experience. It is almost as though I have improved my mental tool kit for delving deep into it. Those tools, once sharpened, can cut very deeply if you are unprepared. "This way lies madness..."

If you have reached the level of conscious communications with the outsiders, the level of really remembering what they say and being cautioned about what to reveal, I would suggest that you'll need less and less DMT for future voyages of similar intensity. I would also humbly suggest that any advice you get from them about waiting a while to come back be heeded. They really seem to dislike having to repeat themselves.

I'll close with two stanzas from a Willie Nelson song (What was it you wanted?) that really put the "conversation with God" into concrete terms for me. Incidentally, if you've never grooved on that album (Across The Borderline) you are missing some really interesting double and triple meanings that are just mind blowing when tripping. Also, Willie has a fantasticly interesting voice...

Whatever you wanted
What could it be
Did somebody tell you
That you could get it from me,
Is it something that comes natural
Is it easy to say,
Why do you want it,
Who are you anyway?

Is the scenery changing,
Am I getting it wrong,
Is the whole thing going backwards,
Are they playing our song?
Where were you when it started
Do you want it for free
What was it you wanted
Are you talking to me?

That one line, "Do you want it for free?" means more to me than I could ever express with such chump things as words.

I have noticed that my trips are getting progressively stringer, and I am having more contact with "entities". I dunno what level I have reacged. I have had "communications" with them... but its all them communicatiing to me. and its all telepathic and signs, no actual words. I never remember anything I am told or shown, the memories fade QUICK.

last time I was told not to reveal certain things (and I dont remember what they were anyway). the entities were doing the "shhhhh" sign to me. BUT another possibility is that they were telling me to "sssshhhhh" in the way you would do it to a baby. The trip had some serious childlike symbolism. for some reason birthday cake candles were prominently displayed and the place I was seemed like some kind of alien playroom.

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by waylitjim

I've tried a traditional bubbler and a freebase pipe. They both work well, so it's just a matter of choice. My preference is a freebase bubbler which helps cool the DMT vapor before it enters my mouth and lungs. The most important thing to remember when smoking, don't let the flame touch the DMT as this can destroy some active alkaloids and lessen the experience. The flame should be kept about 1/2" away from the DMT or heated from underneath a glass bulb. You want to draw in enough heat from the flame to melt and vaporize the DMT. A butane lighter is the best option, but a heat gun can also be used.
Here's my new D bubbler. These are not available on the internet in the U.S.

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the headshop I bought my straight basepipe at sells those same basepipe stems in that bubbler... but not the whole set up. that thing looks like it would be perfect. they sell some glass bongs and stuff that may work with it.

[Jonah]

afoaf is a big fan of the glass dicks twackheads use. you can catb the top and save every precious extra bit for your head, and not the air around you.


scares moths away though.

[TheAngryGolfer]

ok... so I was able to get a very thin straight basepipe, similar to the right part in this pic, but straight.



it would be quite easy to bend it with a torch.....

where on the internet could I get a small jar and 2 hole stopper like that?

[TheAngryGolfer]

ok so I have a number 4 (27mm top 20 mm bottom) 2 hole stopper and I bent a straight glass tube like the pic and I'm about to bedn the basepipe like that... I just need the right size jar and I cant find one anywhere on the internet

I want something around 4" tall and with an opening between 21 and 25mm

edit: FUCK. broke the basepipe while bending it

whatever, I can get another one.

[Jonah]

dude, just get a large test tube and rack. it'll look cooler anyway, vovin styleeee

[hogwild]

ive found that a lot of 99 cent stores and head shops carry "base pipes" or oilburners if you will. Thats where we scored ours to freebase kief

[hogwild]

wow nvm saw those bubblin bastard base pipes above, nice one wlj. you guys have your bases covered

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by Jonah

dude, just get a large test tube and rack. it'll look cooler anyway, vovin styleeee

what do you mean? for the jar part?

I tried smoking out of just a test tube with a 2 hole stopper and a glass tube before, it doesnt work well. theres too much room for the liquid to move around. thats why you need that little bubble it keeps the stuff contained.

[TheAngryGolfer]

yoooooo look what I just made

I would have liked to make more of an angle on the bend but wisely I stopped so I didnt crack another one.

I have 2 more basepipes to play around with.... how do you get a nice rounded bend? I was doing it with a butane mini torch.

I want to try to melt a little hole in the jar for a carb also

[condo_pygmy]

Looks like a well made base pipe !!
Nice going TAG,
You might be able to heat up a drill bit and zip a carb hole in ?
test on a sample bottle first ?

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by condo_pygmy

Looks like a well made base pipe !!
Nice going TAG,
You might be able to heat up a drill bit and zip a carb hole in ?
test on a sample bottle first ?

hmmm I was thinking just heating up the glass and poking a hole with a hanger or something.

I dont care if I break a bottle, but breaking the base pipes suck since the rip off headshop sells them for $20 a peice/ how do u get a nice bend like this tho? thats like a nice curve mine is more of an angle and it would have snapped if I tried to bend it any more.

[reverend trips]

Wonder if packing it up with sand would help like they do with normal pipe bending?

[synth]

it shouldn't crack [while you're bending it, at least].

for chemestry and stuff, i've bent a lot of glass tubing.

really easy with a bunsen burner.

it could be that your torch isn't powerful enough, and not enough
glass is being heated at once. how wide is the flame's diameter?

you probably wouldn't want to at this point since you seem to be
all set, but... you can get bunsen burners on ebay.
for home use...
probably easier to get one for propane and just hook it up to your
grill's tank.

[synth]

i don't think sand packing is really needed or useful..
sand would get stuck to the heated area, and would
probably melt. i'd guess that it'd ruin the bend area.

also, when you bend, you can try moving the tube back
and forth a bit across the flame [while turning the tube]
if not heating a large enough area is the problem [which
it sounds like it might be].

[synth]

Originally Posted by TheAngryGolfer

hmmm I was thinking just heating up the glass and poking a hole with a hanger or something.

I dont care if I break a bottle, but breaking the base pipes suck since the rip off headshop sells them for $20 a peice/ how do u get a nice bend like this tho? thats like a nice curve mine is more of an angle and it would have snapped if I tried to bend it any more.

well, a bunsen burner would probably make that a lot easier to do.
like i said before though, you might be able to pull it off with your
butane minitorch if you move it back and forth and heat a large
enough area. you want to roll it around in your fingers
and apply slight bending pressure now and then. when you feel it start to give, you
are getting close. a gentle, slow bend [with a larger lengh heated]
is the key to a bend like that.

and as for that carb hole.. yeah, i can't think of a great way.
HF acid would probably be pretty nice, but no.. don't do that, lol.
it can be dangerous to handle since it's such a weak acid.

yeah, your idea for making the hole sounds pretty good. i can't think
of anything better, but.. i'd use a toothpick instead of metal.
metal may take the heat away too quickly.
give it a try and let me know =]
[PS: don't be alarmed when the toothpick catches on fire after pressing
it against the molten glass]

[TheAngryGolfer]

yea i was rolling it and moving it back and forth but I guess not enough since mine is much sharper of a bend than the nice curve on that one.... oh well mine will work just as good....

[TheAngryGolfer]

I got it bent a little better by adding another much less sharp bend. doesnt look as good as that pic but its a good angle, the stem enters the top of the bulb at around a 45 degree angle.

I found a perfect jar to use at the supermarket... it had anchovies in it.

and then I tried to make a carb in it by heating it in one spot with the butane minitorch and poking it with a wire hanger... I got a nice little indent started and I was gonna go get a drill to try to finish it but when it cooled it immediately shattered its not like I cant go get another one fro $2 but I want to make a hole in it and I guess its not as easy as it looks.


edit: is there any reason not to use a plastic jar?

[reverend trips]

There's a chain of adult gag stores called San Diego that has these for under $10.
I picked one up yesturday, going to give it a go sometime today...

[TheAngryGolfer]

Originally Posted by reverend trips

There's a chain of adult gag stores called San Diego that has these for under $10.
I picked one up yesturday, going to give it a go sometime today...

does that have a carb hole in it??

the only thing I dont like is how close the vaporizing bubble is to where your hand is gonna be. WOnt work out well if youre using a torch.

and i dont understand the point of that funnel in the bubble.

[reverend trips]

There is a carb in it, and the bowl can swing to whatever position you want, to avoid burning yourself.
I can pull the funnel out and load the spice with ease then put the funnel back in, I think it will work ok.

[~Hippie3]

wicked

[arcturian]

I hope that this doesn't sound too dumb... but specifically how would one use the freebase bubler? would one actually use it with water, and if so, wouldn't one lose some of the material that way?

[waylitjim]

No, water filtration doesn't affect the high. Only makes it easier on the lungs.
You don't torch the spice, just heat it from underneath the glass bulb.

[jbmac]

In San Jose, CA, Amerika, many pipes are illegal. There is only one headshop left - Paramont Imports, and they sell Tobacco pipes only. When I said I wanted one for Salvia - they said strongly - our pipes only work with tobacco.
They had about 1000 different waterpipes, bongs, regular pipes - but they had a picture of a simple pipe they cannot sell - as some use it freebase cocaine. I guess we should outlaw knives - as some are used to kill, and outlaw gasoline, as some use it as a weapon, etc.
Sorry, I got the message I need to post more, so there I go again!

archive material..

[Jonah]

ah, the cone keeps the smoke in... genius!
See if they have any more, i'd love to have a nice piece like that laying around.