Woodlovers 08"

[chimp]

That last pic is killer WJ! Pic o tha month nomineee 4 sure

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by greenie

gorgeous Jim, gorgeous. Are those the friscosas from frisco?

Originally from the East Bay...
http://forums.mycotopia.net/exotic-m...tml#post324815

[eatyualive]

this thread can't really be described....


i got to give it a Fuckin A! badass man!

[waylitjim]

Here's an update on this second tub. The first group are Friscosa's and the last one is P. azurescens.















Azures

[spacecake]

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Another great looking tub you've got there Waylitjim !

[raveneye]

Your an Insparation. I'm gonna cook up some corn and get rolling.
Awsome!!!

[dice]

I love the Cluster's you got there waylitjim.
Also those def are some pretty mushrooms man.
Beautiful colored cap's.

[waylitjim]

Just a few more Frisco's.
The azure tub didn't do all that well. I think they do better in the ground.
I'm really hoping the subaeruginascens come up this season.
They'd be a nice addition to this thread.





A few azures....

[greenmeanie]

Waylit, is it possible you could post some of these pics in a larger size? They're absolutely gorgeous but I'd like to use a couple for desktop backgrounds

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by greenmeanie

Waylit, is it possible you could post some of these pics in a larger size? They're absolutely gorgeous but I'd like to use a couple for desktop backgrounds

If you let me know which ones you like, I'll post a few full res. (right click > save picture as > each photo has a ID #)

[greenmeanie]

I would say 42631, 4291, 4345, 4317 are my favorites

Are all those azures sterile?

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by psylence

Are all those azures sterile?

Not sure what you mean by sterile? They were grown in tubs, like the Friscosa's.

Sterile, as in, did they not produce any spores? It appears that they did not, as their gills are pale and there doesn't appear to be any spore deposits on their caps.

I'm just puzzled at the propensity of cultivated mushrooms to end up producing sterile fruits.

[bluehelix]

Originally Posted by psylence

Sterile, as in, did they not produce any spores? It appears that they did not, as their gills are pale and there doesn't appear to be any spore deposits on their caps.

I'm just puzzled at the propensity of cultivated mushrooms to end up producing sterile fruits.

It's funny but in all my time growing, I have not run across a single sterile mushroom. It's be cool to see one. Do they have gills?

Originally Posted by bluehelix

It's funny but in all my time growing, I have not run across a single sterile mushroom. It's be cool to see one. Do they have gills?

They sure do! Check out my mexicana thread for numerous examples (try every single mushroom in every single photograph) of sterile fruits.

Or alternatively, check out the following image of waylit's:


Notice how the gills are pale? With a dark-spored species, this means there are few or no spores present.

[waylitjim]

You're correct psylence, the azures pictured above didn't drop spores. Not even a light print. Most of the azures in the second flush didn't drop spores either, but 2 or 3 of them did. What's the reason for fungi not producing spores? I'd say about 70% of the Friscosa's left a spore deposit.

Originally Posted by greenmeanie

Waylit, is it possible you could post some of these pics in a larger size? They're absolutely gorgeous but I'd like to use a couple for desktop backgrounds. I would say 42631, 4291, 4345, 4317 are my favorites

There's an upload limit of 1.9mb, the full res. files are too big.
But these should work

[bluehelix]

Originally Posted by waylitjim

There's an upload limit of 1.9mb, the full res. files are too big.
But these should work

If you send me the pics in a zipfile, waylitjim, I'll recompress them with medium JPEG. The difference raw to that would be almost impossible to notice and they would be under 2 MB each.

Originally Posted by waylitjim

What's the reason for fungi not producing spores?

I've asked Workman about this, as I've had the problem in a couple of species now and one of the main reasons I grow exotics is to help conserve and share them, so not having them produce spores in self-defeating.

Logically, sterility can sometimes be attributed to a genetic defect, but it doesn't make sense if the grow has been started from multi-spore. If the grow is a blind isolate and they turn out sterile, then a genetic defect seems plausible.

Workman also suggested that it can be substrate related, with excessive levels of nutrients leading to mushrooms not being able to produce spores. I'm not really sure how that works, but it helps explain why the mushrooms in the first flush are often sterile, but produce spores in subsequent flushes, as the nutrient levels have been lowered.

I think there must be some other environmental factors at work too though.

[eatyualive]

holy dude if thats even possible. holy effin dude! beautiful!

[Subbalteatus]

WaylitJim,

Wow, I am speechless at the beauty of those mushrooms!! This is an incredible thread, dont know how I didnt see it until yesterday. Good work Jim!!!

Anyway, I am amazed at the simplicity of the grow. Is it really that easy???

I noticed that you kept the mycelium in the block when you transferred into the chip mulch. But Did you do the same thing before when you transferred the popcorn to the alder woodchips in the filter bag? I mean, did you break up the popcorn or leave it in a chunk. It appears that you left it in a chunk.

What about watering? did you let nature do that or did you help?


One more question I guess. Do you think this same tek could be used for Ovoids in the spring/summer? If so When would be a good time to start? Would you do anything different? I know that Ovoids Like sandy soils with well rotted wood right?

Anyway I look forward to your reply and thanks for such an awesome thread Man.

Peace,
Subbal

[arcamedes333]

very nice

[greenie]

u da man jim

[Subbalteatus]

forget i asked

[mushroommaster7]

do those dry out just like psilocybe cubensis would?

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by Subbalteatus

Anyway, I am amazed at the simplicity of the grow. Is it really that easy???

Woodlovers are fairly easy to grow. Finding the right woodchips is important to strong colonization. That's really the biggest challenge, once you have healthy strong colonization, mother nature does the rest. Keep in mind, certain wood chips will work better than others.

I noticed that you kept the mycelium in the block when you transferred into the chip mulch. But Did you do the same thing before when you transferred the popcorn to the alder woodchips in the filter bag?

Yeah, the popcorn was kept intact. It was basically planted in the woodchip bag. This is known as the island effect, and has proven to more effective than breaking up the spawn.

What about watering? did you let nature do that or did you help?

The casing layer and the tub was sprayed with a water bottle every couple days.

[assmonkey75]

Those are really beautiful.

Would Hickory, Apple, Cherry, Maple, Mesquite, or Butternut chips make a good substitute for Alder?

Also, which woodlovers would you say are the hardiest in terms of cold tolerance?

What about in terms of tolerating periodically dryer conditions?

Thank you for your input and the truly inspiring photos.

[eatyualive]

the board just won't allow me to keep hitting you with more rep waylit. ill keep trying haha!

[waylitjim]

Originally Posted by assmonkey75

Those are really Would Hickory, Apple, Cherry, Maple, Mesquite, or Butternut chips make a good substitute for Alder?

There are many wood types that work. I've also used hickory and maple, but the best chips I've used found were piled at a local dog park. I have no idea what they are, it seems to be a mix of varouis trees. If you see woodchips in nature with mushrooms growing, take a bag home and pasteurize them.

which woodlovers would you say are the hardiest in terms of cold tolerance?

Either Psilocybe cyanescens or azurescens. In the US azures fruit in the top corner of NW where weather conditions on the coast are extreme. It's really cold, very wet and extremely windy...and they're happy as a clam. Psilocybe cyanescens are also very tolerant of the cold. I've seen patches covered with frost continue to grow. The photos below are from @Cro in Seattle. The Friscosa's like it warmer, they'll fruit with temps in the high 60's, but their growth slows considerably once temps drop in the the 30s.

[eatyualive]

ice caps. damn it must be the golden time of year....

[adio9454]

you definetly have some beautiful pics love the hyphae and the wood chips. great thread!!!!!

[Buzztea]

Hi,

did you have on a lid or foil on he tubs..(I dad a foil roof, semi open)

did the rain fall on the casings....(if it rained heavy it passed)

did you have any draining holes (i had, snungs, worms and many more entered)

you sure have a nice grow..(mine was years ago, lasted for years..well just like one trip left, have to grow cubies )

I had some tubs of Azure going and spread it out to spawn more wood and it never recovered..a shame,

I had lots of insects and snugs, too and worms staring to trasform my tubs into wormcasting..so I pread it out..

was the last year I saw Azures..they still alive..but weak, without vigor..and do not fruit and got contaminated by other mushrooms and stuff


my best results were in a bag of woodchips..

I will try woodmycobags with Azures and any woodlover I can find

also azures are my favourite shroom to eat..

best regards and wonderfull grow (i saw a few over at shroomery that were comparable, also Azures, cyans and sups, just beautyfull)

[waylitjim]

Sorry for the delay...

Originally Posted by Buzztea

Did you have on a lid or foil on he tubs

I left the lids loosely on the tubs. Open enough to allow fresh air, but closed enough to keep humidity high. The tubs were kept in an outdoor garden shed.

did the rain fall on the casings?

There was no direct rain on the tubs. Watering was done every couple of days with a spray bottle. Keeping the casing layer moist will get the job done.

did you have any draining holes

I used to add drainage holes in the bottom of my tubs, but I don't do this anymore. If I water too heavy, I just dump excess water out by tilting the tub. The wood based matrix is so dense it even stays together upside down.

also azures are my favourite shroom to eat.

Friscosa's are my favorite shroom to eat. Azures are definitely potent but I get bad muscle cramps from them. Frisco's have more kick than cyans and they really keep their potency after drying. If you get a chance to grow this mushroom, please do so!!! Spread the LOE

best regards and wonderfull grow.

Thanks for the nice comments, the mushrooms do all the work!

[Cultosaurus]

This is the thread that just keeps on giving. All those pics, all the advice. Thanks to WJ and NF and everyone else.

I'll have to be giving these a try.

Peace
Cult

[Mushrooms201]

Man that rocks Very impressive and great pics as well.

[kcmoxtractor]

very nicely done, and very informative, thanks very much waylit