Semperviva Lives!!! - Page 2

AlsahrGlib · 11-28-07, 16:14

Holy crap!

Those are very very beautiful, workman.

waylitjim · 11-28-07, 16:16

Beautiful Workman!!!
A colleague of mine used to pick these in Puebla.
Is the substrate 100% staw?

rockawayrooms · 11-28-07, 16:44

Simply "AMAZING",incredible job Workman!!

Workman · 11-28-07, 16:48

Nope, just grass seed. I never got around to doing the straw. I am not really certain why it worked so much better this time. Maybe substrate depth.

eatyualive · 11-28-07, 16:56

some nice looking bells you have there. can i ring them?

the_chosen_one · 11-28-07, 20:22

OMG! they are so beautiful!!!

i gotta get mine started.. like soon!

Workman · 11-28-07, 20:40

Yeah, they really have a very iconic psilocybe look and very Mexican. Its hard to explain. It is appealing though.

kocos · 11-29-07, 04:52

Outstanding work, Workman!

MrMycelium · 11-29-07, 10:07

Good stuff.

weed4all · 11-29-07, 10:08

awsome workman, they look beautiful.

TVCasualty · 11-29-07, 12:05

Wow, those are gorgeous!

floppypeter · 11-29-07, 14:25

1st class as usual !

waylitjim · 11-29-07, 16:26

Are fruiting conditions similar to Pan cyans?

Dipole · 11-29-07, 16:39

What a save. Bravo. You deserve a medal for that.

Workman · 11-29-07, 17:05

The growing parameters are the same as for Psilocybe mexicana which is what I also use for Panaeolus cyanescens (and allies) to good effect. But it seems very adaptive and probably has a wide range of fruiting parameters. It will also fruit invitro on agar and grains. It also appears extremely contaminate resistant with no problems even after months in the fruiting chamber. It is very slow growing and not a good species for the impatient. If it grew faster, I'd say it was very easy to grow.

koldjgdaro · 11-29-07, 18:10

One of the sweetest psilocybes we've seen. Too bad they're not good as a commercial species because of their slow growth. At least that's my opinion.

waylitjim · 11-29-07, 18:54

I hope this one gets released through Sporeworks

!!! Viva La Semperviva !!!

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Hippie3 · 11-29-07, 19:04

i do love to see invitro too!

when you say slow growing-
exactly how slow ?
say, from germination to that pic you posted WM ?

cleanjar · 11-29-07, 20:37

Mmm, the ones in that last pic are looking perfect.

CaptainFuture · 12-05-07, 18:55

Hi there,
4yrs. ago I grew a lots of mushrooms (the 'legal ones': pilzolli.de) and at that time I also followed the Semperviva Threads @shroomery.
Now while my youngest kid is about 2 yrs. I find time again to care about those beauties.

And guess what? I do have 2 prints from Elektrolurch

One of his Semperviva cultures. And the other from his Zapotecorum's.

I have great trouble to get my Pans and some other rare Psilocybe spores to germinate. They have been stored correctly but are 4+ yrs. old.

I haven't tried the above ones. Now workman, did you do something special with the spores? Soak them in sterilized water or so?
Or did you just inoculated them the usual way?

I feel I should give them a try, too. My last attempts with a different Semperviva strain (which came from Michael Ganslmeier, Kassel) weren't successful. They grew very fast on agar and grain spawn (with a little straw & horsemanure) but failed to fruit.

So, please would you tell me how you handled those aged spores?

Thanks and best wishes,
Oliver

Workman · 12-05-07, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

i do love to see invitro too!

when you say slow growing-
exactly how slow ?
say, from germination to that pic you posted WM ?

Lets see 2.5 months from spore germination to pins on agar.

About 2 weeks from casing to pins in a tray, then 2 more weeks until the mushrooms are mature.

The jar with the nice picture is the 2nd flush so its about 2 months after casing, but the jar is about a week behind the tray for some reason.

No special treatment was given to the spores. Simply streaking of dry spores on agar is all that was done.

CaptainFuture · 12-06-07, 13:29

Thanx, I'll get them on agar this evening.
Elektrolurch's label reads September 2001- holy shit, they are old.
I totally forgot about the print. The Zaps are a few months younger- March 2002. I'll give them a try asap. (too much stuff growing around here)

Additionally I place some spores on liquid ME(A), hope any Semp will grow.

prankster · 12-07-07, 19:35

Quote:

And guess what? I do have 2 prints from Elektrolurch

One of his Semperviva cultures. And the other from his Zapotecorum's.

And you never try to grow them? Schäm dich

. But im happy that workman´s grow dig out some peoples who want grow this species.

CaptainFuture · 12-08-07, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by prankster

And you never try to grow them? Schäm dich

. But im happy that workman´s grow dig out some peoples who want grow this species.

I got a culture on agar from a different source and after a big growing breakdown I -just like WM

- forgot about these beauties.
Keep your thumbs pressed (gibts das im Englischen?) and they will germinate just like WM's did. The print itself is really astonishing- very dark and with a thick layer of spores. It was that easy to get them on agar. I inoculated about 7 spots- hoping the best.
And the next days I'll let them Zapotecorum out on agar. This print looks smaller but also very dark & heavy.

Everytime I see the pictures of his old Shroomery threads I still can't believe that I am in posession of a print from those absolutely gorgeous beauties he grew. This goes for both- the Semps and the Zaps.

BW,
Oliver

prankster · 12-09-07, 17:47

Quote:

Keep your thumbs pressed (gibts das im Englischen?)

I cross my fingers for your grows

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11-28-07, 16:14	#51 (permalink)
AlsahrGlib Mycophage Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 102	Holy crap! Those are very very beautiful, workman. __________________ Little bit harder, just a little bit more ~Little bit further than you've gone before~

11-28-07, 16:16	#52 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	Beautiful Workman!!! A colleague of mine used to pick these in Puebla. Is the substrate 100% staw? __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

11-28-07, 16:44	#53 (permalink)
rockawayrooms Hash Pipe Harry Join Date: Dec 1971 Posts: 2,046	Simply "AMAZING",incredible job Workman!! __________________ Any little song that you know, Everything that's small has to grow!!L.Zep

11-28-07, 16:48	#54 (permalink)
Workman Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 578	Nope, just grass seed. I never got around to doing the straw. I am not really certain why it worked so much better this time. Maybe substrate depth. __________________ I can't believe I get paid for this. Founder of Sporeworks.com 1998 Workman's Mycotopia Gallery

11-28-07, 16:56	#55 (permalink)
eatyualive LookIntoYourMind Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,794	some nice looking bells you have there. can i ring them? __________________ Simplicity Rules! Anything this user posts is not reality. It is an illusion. Optical lenses are quite impressive these days.

11-28-07, 20:22	#56 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,159	OMG! they are so beautiful!!! i gotta get mine started.. like soon! __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

11-28-07, 20:40	#57 (permalink)
Workman Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 578	Yeah, they really have a very iconic psilocybe look and very Mexican. Its hard to explain. It is appealing though. __________________ I can't believe I get paid for this. Founder of Sporeworks.com 1998 Workman's Mycotopia Gallery

11-29-07, 04:52	#58 (permalink)
kocos Mycotopiate Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 851	Outstanding work, Workman!

11-29-07, 10:07	#59 (permalink)
MrMycelium Breeder of Fungus Gnats Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 973	Good stuff. __________________ Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, where the heck is the ceiling.

11-29-07, 10:08	#60 (permalink)
weed4all travel...without moving Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 878	awsome workman, they look beautiful. __________________

11-29-07, 12:05	#61 (permalink)
TVCasualty Embrace Your Damage Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,937	Wow, those are gorgeous!

11-29-07, 14:25	#62 (permalink)
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11-29-07, 16:26	#63 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	Are fruiting conditions similar to Pan cyans? __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

11-29-07, 16:39	#64 (permalink)
Dipole Mycotopiate Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 952	What a save. Bravo. You deserve a medal for that.

11-29-07, 17:05	#65 (permalink)
Workman Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 578	The growing parameters are the same as for Psilocybe mexicana which is what I also use for Panaeolus cyanescens (and allies) to good effect. But it seems very adaptive and probably has a wide range of fruiting parameters. It will also fruit invitro on agar and grains. It also appears extremely contaminate resistant with no problems even after months in the fruiting chamber. It is very slow growing and not a good species for the impatient. If it grew faster, I'd say it was very easy to grow. __________________ I can't believe I get paid for this. Founder of Sporeworks.com 1998 Workman's Mycotopia Gallery

11-29-07, 18:10	#66 (permalink)
koldjgdaro Psychonaut Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 531	One of the sweetest psilocybes we've seen. Too bad they're not good as a commercial species because of their slow growth. At least that's my opinion. __________________ To fathom Hell or soar angelic, just take a pinch of psychedelic

11-29-07, 18:54	#67 (permalink)
waylitjim Grateful Mod Join Date: Sep 1972 Posts: 3,936	I hope this one gets released through Sporeworks !!! Viva La Semperviva !!! Archive Material ~ Exotics __________________ <((( Waylit's Pan cyan Tek ~~~ Waylit's Wood Lover Tek )))>

11-29-07, 19:04	#68 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,274	i do love to see invitro too! when you say slow growing- exactly how slow ? say, from germination to that pic you posted WM ? __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

11-29-07, 20:37	#69 (permalink)
cleanjar Mycotopiate Join Date: Sep 1971 Posts: 1,037	Mmm, the ones in that last pic are looking perfect.

12-05-07, 18:55	#70 (permalink)
CaptainFuture Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 46	Elektrolurch's Semps Hi there, 4yrs. ago I grew a lots of mushrooms (the 'legal ones': pilzolli.de) and at that time I also followed the Semperviva Threads @shroomery. Now while my youngest kid is about 2 yrs. I find time again to care about those beauties. And guess what? I do have 2 prints from Elektrolurch One of his Semperviva cultures. And the other from his Zapotecorum's. I have great trouble to get my Pans and some other rare Psilocybe spores to germinate. They have been stored correctly but are 4+ yrs. old. I haven't tried the above ones. Now workman, did you do something special with the spores? Soak them in sterilized water or so? Or did you just inoculated them the usual way? I feel I should give them a try, too. My last attempts with a different Semperviva strain (which came from Michael Ganslmeier, Kassel) weren't successful. They grew very fast on agar and grain spawn (with a little straw & horsemanure) but failed to fruit. So, please would you tell me how you handled those aged spores? Thanks and best wishes, Oliver

12-06-07, 13:29	#72 (permalink)
CaptainFuture Mycophiliac Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 46	Thanx, I'll get them on agar this evening. Elektrolurch's label reads September 2001- holy shit, they are old. I totally forgot about the print. The Zaps are a few months younger- March 2002. I'll give them a try asap. (too much stuff growing around here) Additionally I place some spores on liquid ME(A), hope any Semp will grow.

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