DukeX vs MexA 2

dukex · 03-27-05, 09:56

Here is a pic of my mexa jars the original thread is out there somewhere.
Looks like some nuggets are forming cant wait for these too finish up.

Peace...

destroy_erase_improve · 03-27-05, 10:16

lmao
ok you just freaked me out
i thought that it was one picture that i was going to be looking at
and then it started to change
and then i saw duke x in the corner
and had to make sure i didnt just does an hour ago.

lmao
ok so...
are these jars from the original thread? just now maturing into sclerotia?

dukex · 03-27-05, 10:27

The original thread was starting from spore to agar and isolating a strain per RR guidance. Eventually I did a agar to grain then a grain to grain well here we are, it is a time consuming adventure that is for sure.

I wanted to show all four sides of the jars so a little animation for ya.

Peace...

destroy_erase_improve · 03-27-05, 11:46

so far how long has it been from innoc to now. two months?

dukex · 03-27-05, 11:57

I think from the time of spores to agar and strain isolation was about 6 weeks, that was three iterations of isolation. And guessing here but I would think another 5 weeks from agar to grain then grain to grain to where I am now.

I have given up on being in a hurry just set em on the shelf and let them do there thing and when they are done I will do what I do best chow!

Peace...

dukex · 03-29-05, 11:21

Here is a update pic they seem to be picking up speed.

Peace...

dukex · 03-30-05, 16:53

Everybody tired of the MexA thread ?

Peace...

kikashi · 03-30-05, 17:02

No! Keep us updated please. I'm just starting out with a similar attempt. I'm going to use PFT's and clones from the fruit they produce, (instead of agar/plates), to go a few generations. Will be starting some rye jars with my next EQ flush. Not as refined as what you have going here but should give me some strain isolation.

destroy_erase_improve · 03-30-05, 20:17

nope
not tired of it at all
we know it takes time for the sclerotia to form. so we know this thread is going to have slow , spread out updates.
keep us posted

03-30-05, 22:29

Look what these little buggars did in just six weeks after dropping one drop of spore solution on agar. That's enough sclerotia to dose lightly, and there's two little pins in the foreground. I'm wondering if agar might just be the most efficient bio mass producer. Look at the bang for the amount of substrate consumed.

dukex · 03-31-05, 07:53

Love that photo! That is one drop from a multi spore syringe ? Lucky Rabbit
I think its time to make another batch of dishes

Peace...

dukex · 04-07-05, 07:56

And now for the updates.

Peace...

dukex · 04-09-05, 17:13

Rodger,

One of those jars smell like stinky feet, its not a usaul contam smell.
Should I pitch it ?

Peace...

04-09-05, 22:53

They should smell like fresh mushrooms. Is it making stones or does it look bad too?
RR

dukex · 04-10-05, 08:33

"Is it making stones or does it look bad too?"

I would say both Its been isolated. I think I will take it outside and do some surgery to see what going on in there. I will play it safe on this one.

Peace...

04-10-05, 08:55

I've noticed if you sniff a month old jar you don't get much smell, but if you shake it up it will smell like fresh mushrooms. If the stones are any size at all, go ahead and bang the jar on a tire to loosen it all up. Pour it out into a plate and separate the stones from the grains. If it all smells like fresh mushrooms, eat up!
RR

dukex · 04-10-05, 17:49

Well I pulled the lids on all the jars today and they all smell like fresh mushies except one.
Woohoo

Peace...

troutlips · 04-10-05, 19:17

We'll be expecting a trip report soon Duke.

dukex · 04-11-05, 13:47

I am not good with the trip reports but I will give it a wirl.

Peace...

Lazlo · 04-11-05, 15:58

Has any one found sclerotia to more potent by the gram than a mature specimen? Good luck Duke!

destroy_erase_improve · 04-11-05, 19:22

what are you going to do with the one that doesnt smell like mushrooms?

dukex · 04-11-05, 20:03

"Has any one found sclerotia to more potent by the gram than a mature specimen? Good luck Duke!"

I have heard yes on this but I am close to seeing for myself. I know Rodger,Soliver and 1DumbMyco have been doing the MexA maybe they will chime in with there opinions.

"what are you going to do with the one that doesnt smell like mushrooms?"
Its already out of the door to the landfill I dont mess around, it was on its way to funky town thats for sure.

Peace...

1dumbmyco · 04-11-05, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukex

"Has any one found sclerotia to more potent by the gram than a mature specimen? Good luck Duke!"

I have heard yes on this but I am close to seeing for myself. I know Rodger,Soliver and 1DumbMyco have been doing the MexA maybe they will chime in with there opinions.

"what are you going to do with the one that doesnt smell like mushrooms?"
Its already out of the door to the landfill I dont mess around, it was on its way to funky town thats for sure.

Peace...

Verrrrry nice tasting, much like a nut with a slight acrid flavor. Body gets rubbery but no speediness and visuals are great. 1 thing noted is that, like any dose but particularly with sclerotia, don't have a negative day and expect a positive experience and it seems like it was worse with Mexi A then cubes. They really unlock the psyche and without a positive focus, you can easily dwell on uncormatable things and end up miserable. 1st time was so entertaining....second time shit that happened prior kept manifesting itself during the experience. You are in control even on what seems like a high dose with lots of treats for the eyes slow coming up, long lasting peak and slow to return so make your plans accordingly.

dukex · 04-14-05, 18:26

Thanks for the report Myco

Peace...

dukex · 04-15-05, 07:15

This is a my attempt at getting fruits and a print. Those who follow these MexA threads know how difficult it is to get a prints.

Rodger I need your help and advice on this one sole fruit. Why after getting them to fruit, is it so hard to get prints ? Here is a picture what do you think ?

Peace...

dukex · 04-15-05, 07:29

Here is a under the cap view.
All opinions welcome when should I go for the print ?

Peace...

Hippie3 · 04-15-05, 07:38

that ones sure does not look like it's going to drop, imo.
but i think i see some other candidates in that jar that may yet.
most of the successes i've seen
the caps started dropping while the caps were still conical,
not spread out like that one.

dukex · 04-15-05, 07:51

That is what I thought but I will get them eventually. There is actually two strains in that jar.(KS,MEXA) I originally shot that jar and seen no growth after a week so I did a g2g (rye to rice pattie)with the MexA. Then I noticed the both competing and this one fruit from the MexA popped up.

I will try again.

Peace...

Hippie3 · 04-15-05, 07:55

sure that's not a KS fruitbody ?

dukex · 04-15-05, 08:11

There are two layers in the jar this one is coming from the MexA layer where the rest are coming from the lower layer.This one has totally different characteristics than the KS, they have been putting out huge flat caps and spores no problem. So I am pretty sure...

I will try and get another picture to show this.

Peace...

Hippie3 · 04-15-05, 08:19

just doesn't look like most mexicana i've seen,
bigger, for one thing...

dukex · 04-15-05, 08:42

It is a bigger and the color darker but the shape. ?

The first is a picture from sporeworks the shape looks right esp. the pointy part in the center. Its hard to tell from my pictures just trying to show the layers and where the fruits are growing from. The third is showing the KS prints they are dumping heavy.

Well I am going make a MexA syringe, shoot some jars and try again.

Peace...

cap · 04-24-06, 08:25

thats NOT mexicana.....at least, it dont resemble any pics ive seen of mexicana
wild nor cultivated..

its got to be KS

then again, im no mycologist...

i do know one thing for sure,

if it is indeed P. mexicana, its carryin some crazy recessive trait for an unusually large stipe/size,
b/c that fruitbody holds little similiarity to the pictures ive seen
(ive never grew them,nor collected them,only going from what ive read online and in guides)

i hope you cloned that badboy!

***anyone else havin crazy ideas of what may have happened in that jar?
im thinkin some twisted shit like the movie The Fly

think it's in any way possible that the two species combined via nuclear migration?

only reason im even resurrecting this thread is b/c i saw it earlier,
and was just readin some of workman's writings on his work with PF albino,
and the two clicked

for the post that got the gears tickin' see:
http://forums.mycotopia.net/showpost...2&postcount=25 (PF Albino from Sporeworks (tribute))

thoughts?

Hippie3 · 04-24-06, 08:33

seems like distinct albeit very remote possibility.

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03-27-05, 10:16	#2 (permalink)
destroy_erase_improve Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,173	lmao ok you just freaked me out i thought that it was one picture that i was going to be looking at and then it started to change and then i saw duke x in the corner and had to make sure i didnt just does an hour ago. lmao ok so... are these jars from the original thread? just now maturing into sclerotia? __________________ Destroy Erase Improve

03-27-05, 10:27	#3 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	The original thread was starting from spore to agar and isolating a strain per RR guidance. Eventually I did a agar to grain then a grain to grain well here we are, it is a time consuming adventure that is for sure. I wanted to show all four sides of the jars so a little animation for ya. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum." Last edited by dukex : 03-27-05 at 10:29. Reason: typo

03-27-05, 11:46	#4 (permalink)
destroy_erase_improve Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,173	so far how long has it been from innoc to now. two months? __________________ Destroy Erase Improve

03-27-05, 11:57	#5 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	I think from the time of spores to agar and strain isolation was about 6 weeks, that was three iterations of isolation. And guessing here but I would think another 5 weeks from agar to grain then grain to grain to where I am now. I have given up on being in a hurry just set em on the shelf and let them do there thing and when they are done I will do what I do best chow! Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

03-30-05, 16:53	#7 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	Everybody tired of the MexA thread ? Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

03-30-05, 17:02	#8 (permalink)
kikashi Mycophage Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 223	No! Keep us updated please. I'm just starting out with a similar attempt. I'm going to use PFT's and clones from the fruit they produce, (instead of agar/plates), to go a few generations. Will be starting some rye jars with my next EQ flush. Not as refined as what you have going here but should give me some strain isolation. __________________ "Religion is a gateway Psychosis" David Spade

03-30-05, 20:17	#9 (permalink)
destroy_erase_improve Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,173	nope not tired of it at all we know it takes time for the sclerotia to form. so we know this thread is going to have slow , spread out updates. keep us posted __________________ Destroy Erase Improve

03-31-05, 07:53	#11 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	Love that photo! That is one drop from a multi spore syringe ? Lucky Rabbit I think its time to make another batch of dishes Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-09-05, 17:13	#13 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	Rodger, One of those jars smell like stinky feet, its not a usaul contam smell. Should I pitch it ? Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-09-05, 22:53	#14 (permalink)
~Peter Cottontail Guest Posts: n/a	They should smell like fresh mushrooms. Is it making stones or does it look bad too? RR

04-10-05, 08:33	#15 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	"Is it making stones or does it look bad too?" I would say both Its been isolated. I think I will take it outside and do some surgery to see what going on in there. I will play it safe on this one. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-10-05, 08:55	#16 (permalink)
~Peter Cottontail Guest Posts: n/a	I've noticed if you sniff a month old jar you don't get much smell, but if you shake it up it will smell like fresh mushrooms. If the stones are any size at all, go ahead and bang the jar on a tire to loosen it all up. Pour it out into a plate and separate the stones from the grains. If it all smells like fresh mushrooms, eat up! RR

04-10-05, 17:49	#17 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	Well I pulled the lids on all the jars today and they all smell like fresh mushies except one. Woohoo Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-10-05, 19:17	#18 (permalink)
troutlips Moderator Join Date: Jun 1972 Posts: 1,256	We'll be expecting a trip report soon Duke.

04-11-05, 13:47	#19 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	I am not good with the trip reports but I will give it a wirl. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-11-05, 15:58	#20 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,052	Has any one found sclerotia to more potent by the gram than a mature specimen? Good luck Duke! __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

04-11-05, 19:22	#21 (permalink)
destroy_erase_improve Mycotopiate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,173	what are you going to do with the one that doesnt smell like mushrooms? __________________ Destroy Erase Improve

04-11-05, 20:03	#22 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	"Has any one found sclerotia to more potent by the gram than a mature specimen? Good luck Duke!" I have heard yes on this but I am close to seeing for myself. I know Rodger,Soliver and 1DumbMyco have been doing the MexA maybe they will chime in with there opinions. "what are you going to do with the one that doesnt smell like mushrooms?" Its already out of the door to the landfill I dont mess around, it was on its way to funky town thats for sure. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-14-05, 18:26	#24 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	Thanks for the report Myco Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-15-05, 07:38	#27 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,274	that ones sure does not look like it's going to drop, imo. but i think i see some other candidates in that jar that may yet. most of the successes i've seen the caps started dropping while the caps were still conical, not spread out like that one. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

04-15-05, 07:51	#28 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	That is what I thought but I will get them eventually. There is actually two strains in that jar.(KS,MEXA) I originally shot that jar and seen no growth after a week so I did a g2g (rye to rice pattie)with the MexA. Then I noticed the both competing and this one fruit from the MexA popped up. I will try again. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-15-05, 07:55	#29 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,274	sure that's not a KS fruitbody ? __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

04-15-05, 08:11	#30 (permalink)
dukex Mycotopiate Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 587	There are two layers in the jar this one is coming from the MexA layer where the rest are coming from the lower layer.This one has totally different characteristics than the KS, they have been putting out huge flat caps and spores no problem. So I am pretty sure... I will try and get another picture to show this. Peace... __________________ "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of gum."

04-15-05, 08:19	#31 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,274	just doesn't look like most mexicana i've seen, bigger, for one thing... __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce

04-24-06, 08:25	#33 (permalink)
cap what a long strange trip Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,818	WOW thats NOT mexicana.....at least, it dont resemble any pics ive seen of mexicana wild nor cultivated.. its got to be KS then again, im no mycologist... i do know one thing for sure, if it is indeed P. mexicana, its carryin some crazy recessive trait for an unusually large stipe/size, b/c that fruitbody holds little similiarity to the pictures ive seen (ive never grew them,nor collected them,only going from what ive read online and in guides) i hope you cloned that badboy! **anyone else havin crazy ideas of what may have happened in that jar? im thinkin some twisted shit like the movie The Fly* think it's in any way possible that the two species combined via nuclear migration? only reason im even resurrecting this thread is b/c i saw it earlier, and was just readin some of workman's writings on his work with PF albino, and the two clicked for the post that got the gears tickin' see: http://forums.mycotopia.net/showpost...2&postcount=25 (PF Albino from Sporeworks (tribute)) thoughts? __________________ "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -Hunter S. Thompson

04-24-06, 08:33	#34 (permalink)
Hippie3 Admin Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 36,274	seems like distinct albeit very remote possibility. __________________ GROW SUPPLIES: www.Mycrotopia.com ------------Simply The Best------------ Namaste Temet Nosce