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Old 08-08-06, 06:53   #1 (permalink)
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mushroom tea

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i have 25 grams of amazonian cubensis and 15 of thai cubensis which i want to divide up for 3 persons
i thought about making a tea
how should i prepare it, without risking a loss of psilocybin?
should i pour boiling water over the shrooms?
or cooled down?
how long should the shrooms last inside the water?
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fresh or dry weight given ?
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fresh, 40 grams all in all
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not enuf 4 2 even
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yeah that is enough for 1 to trip hard and 1 to trip slightly IMO
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Depends on your tolerance, but probably not enough for 3 people like 3 said. I can get off well on 2 grams if they are potent.
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I would say thats not even enough for one but they call me crazy

About tea, I dont think you loose much if any. I was concerned about this so the first time when I made tea, I kept all mushrooms and stored them in the fridge. Two days later I ate all on an empty stomach and didnt have any effect.

I used this simple recipe which works great:

cook one portion of water, turn of the fire and put the teared up mushrooms in it. Stir a bit, let sit for about 10 minutes, strain.

Repeat with fresh water.

With a little honey added, it tastes really good
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My FOAF's tea method starts with dried shrooms. He throws them in the coffee grinder and grinds them up. Then he fills some loose tea filters (available anywhere that sells loose tea) with 1 gram apiece - makes it easy to gauge how much he wants to ingest later. Boil water and pour it into a teacup with a (regular) teabag and let it steep for about 10-15 minutes. At this point the water shouldn't be too hot anymore (one rule of thumb is if you can stick your finger in it comfortably, it's not too hot). Then put the mushroom teabag(s) in and let it steep for about 10 minutes, take the bag out and squeeze every last drop out and drop it back in for another 5 minutes. Squeeze again, add milk and honey if you like, and drink.
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Never tried to make tea b4....does tea also alleviate the physical side effects such as Naseau and cramps?
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I've always found tea to be easier on my belly. When I eat em they really give me a stomach ache.
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Never tried to make tea b4....does tea also alleviate the physical side effects such as Naseau and cramps?
Unfortunately, no...

From my experience, the only way to get rid of the baddies
is to perform an everclear extraction, which is just as easy
as making tea, but it takes a few weeks.



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I find tea to be much easier on my belly. Eating shrooms often has the unpleasent side effect of vomiting for me. Never had that problem with tea.

Your mileage may vary.
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I make my tea sans teabag. I just take the powdered shroom dust and pour it into my cup of hot water. Sometimes I add a flavoured tea bag for, well, flavour.

I find that the powder goes down easily for the most part with minimal chewing. And this way, if there IS any magic left in the mushroom, I get that bit as well. As an added bonus, it seems that most of the vermiculite, if there is any, falls to the bottom of the cup which I can then throw out when I drink down to it.
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I don't recommend chopping or grinding of fresh mushrooms. Only cured ones that are cracker dry. With fresh mushrooms, add them whole to the water.
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i find tea is easier to ingest for me. i get sick if i eat them but tea makes me sick mayb 1 in 5 times. probly because tea is a liquid so it is absorbed fast as aposed to sitting in your stomach for 30 + min.
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I don't recommend chopping or grinding of fresh mushrooms. Only cured ones that are cracker dry. With fresh mushrooms, add them whole to the water.
never ground up freshies
but
i've chopped them plenty for tea
without problem
so i'm curious as to why
you'd advise against dicing freshies ?
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The oxidizing they go through when you chop them looks ugly to me, that's all really. A big pile of blue mushroom chunks makes me leary sort of. I'm not sure if it made a difference in the potency of the tea. I figured why oxidize the mushrooms by chopping them up when you can just throw them into the pot. I don't know.
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what about putting them in the pan w/ h2o over them and slicing them under the water...less loss on the cutting bourd maybe
 
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or just toss in a blender with liquid
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scissors under the water, knives may scratch the pan,

my wife would love that
 
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Mason jar on a blender powders dry shrooms totally
boiling the actual shrooms seems to kill potency ime.

My Pref.
Pour 3-4oz hot water over shroom powder,
let sit 5-10 min.
add 4oz chai tea (the boxes make all the difference)
a little sugar/honey & milk.
down it goes.

Chai seems to change the flavor so it's actually tasty, rather than mask it.
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or just toss in a blender with liquid
Hmm... toss in a blender... with milk and icecream! A shroom milkshake! What flavour do you suppose would go well with mushrooms? A nutty one, like pistachio maybe?

Sorry if I'm off topic, but that is something I'll have to try.
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I tried strawberry once. It wasn't totally repulsive. I think pistachio sounds like a winner.
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Hmm... toss in a blender... with milk and icecream! A shroom milkshake! What flavour do you suppose would go well with mushrooms? A nutty one, like pistachio maybe?

Sorry if I'm off topic, but that is something I'll have to try.
sounds like fun
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Mason jar on a blender powders dry shrooms totally
boiling the actual shrooms seems to kill potency ime.

My Pref.
Pour 3-4oz hot water over shroom powder,
let sit 5-10 min.
add 4oz chai tea (the boxes make all the difference)
a little sugar/honey & milk.
down it goes.

Chai seems to change the flavor so it's actually tasty, rather than mask it.
yeah, Chai with milk and honey rocks. This is almost exactly what I posted upthread, but I steep the chai first, THEN add the shrooms, that way I am pretty confident the water is not so hot as to harm the potency. And I put the shroom powder into teabags, which then makes it easy to squeeze every last drop out.
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My FOAF's tea method starts with dried shrooms. He throws them in the coffee grinder and grinds them up. Then he fills some loose tea filters (available anywhere that sells loose tea) with 1 gram apiece - makes it easy to gauge how much he wants to ingest later. Boil water and pour it into a teacup with a (regular) teabag and let it steep for about 10-15 minutes. At this point the water shouldn't be too hot anymore (one rule of thumb is if you can stick your finger in it comfortably, it's not too hot). Then put the mushroom teabag(s) in and let it steep for about 10 minutes, take the bag out and squeeze every last drop out and drop it back in for another 5 minutes. Squeeze again, add milk and honey if you like, and drink.

There's a lot of Turkey Tail Mushrooms growing in our yard lately. And i've read that i makes good tea.

I'd like to collect them all and sun-dry them.

Is it ok if i pattern my recipe with yours? I havent tried making tea of my own most especially from mushrooms.
1. Dry the shrooms.
2. Grate them using my HandyChef.
3. Place them in Tea Bags.
4. Boil water and pour into tea cup.
5. Dip one turkey tail tea bag and set for 5 minutes.
6. Dip in and out for a few times.
7. Add wild bee's honey.

Old folks here in my place thinks that mushrooms are poisonous.
The MycoTopia tells me the otherwise. I can now even tell that those i found in the backyard are Turkey Tail. Some are reshie. A few are Chanterelle Trumpets.

However, a very small portion of my head tells me that i might poison me. Is there a chance that turkey tails might poison me?
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. Is there a chance that turkey tails might poison me?
No chance. Turkey Tails are fine for consumption. As far as I know there's not any strain of polypore that's poisonous.
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No chance. Turkey Tails are fine for consumption. As far as I know there's not any strain of polypore that's poisonous.
Thanks Mr. Lazlo!
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