Pan Tea

spacecake · 09-29-06, 13:21

I have a question...!

My last batch of Pans are loaded with spores.

I want to make a thea from them (normally I make capsules),..but I want to get rid of the bad tasting spores !
Do you guys think ,I shall try to filter the mushroom thea with a coffie filter ?

lost_onabbey_rd · 09-29-06, 13:45

the spores will definatly go right threw a coffee filter...
i think your pretty much stuck with them now..
i'd say the best bet on not tasting them is mix a good bit of hot cocco powder with your tea.. covers the taste of mush very well
LOST

spacecake · 09-29-06, 14:27

I'll try that..thanks Lost !

golly · 09-29-06, 18:15

I've never tried Pan tea Space, but i'm interested to know how that turns out - efficiency wise...I was concerned that the high psilocin content might be easily oxidized in hot water...

the_chosen_one · 09-29-06, 18:24

I just did some pan tea last weekend and had to use cocoa because a two gram dose came out very dark. :eusa sourpuss and :eusa almostpuke
The cocoa hid the taste quite effectivley. As far as potency it seemed just fine. My standard rule of thumb when making tea is exactly 15 minutes at a medium boil. Bring the water to a boil first.

max · 09-29-06, 21:21

How about waiting until all the spores have been dropped?

grove_shroomer · 09-29-06, 21:29

JUST ADD SOMETING TO HIDE THE TASTE i normaly just just oj since i dont make teas allways told heat distroys shrrooms so i never tryed it humm

lost_onabbey_rd · 09-29-06, 23:20

think he is refering to the spores that already deposited on the caps as well..
but printing them all till there ain't non left in the cap would also probibly help lower the spore count in your mouth
LOST

apokalypse · 09-29-06, 23:56

Spores have a taste now? I've never noticed

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 01:12

I didn't have trouble with spores, just a dark wicked brew

Pans always do that in tea for me. Even a 1 gram dose of some vars can make an almost blue tea. There is some breaking down of the good stuff while boiling but they are so strong to begin with the difference is probably fairly minimal. I always have to use cocoa though because I really just can't stand that taste and texture of tea by itself.

spacecake · 09-30-06, 04:17

I'm still gonne try filtering,with a couple of different things and let you now if something works,gonne try the chocolate as well !

I thought I was the only one with this ugly dark thea thing,was I wrong...!

grove_shroomer · 09-30-06, 07:59

w8t pans are stonger the cubis??? sorry im a noob at all this, maby washing them with some water will take them off or a damp cloth

spacecake · 09-30-06, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by grove_shroomer

w8t pans are stonger the cubis??? sorry im a noob at all this, maby washing them with some water will take them off or a damp cloth

I thought aboud a short was too,but I don't think it will work,but I will give it a try aswell !

Pans are indeed stronger then cubies.. 2-3 times as strong !

Nabby · 09-30-06, 10:48

I never tried tea... can't you just put the shrooms in cold water first, agitate them a bit to get the some of the spores off and then take them out and then make the tea?

Hippie3 · 09-30-06, 11:08

one could just use stems, no caps
or use compressed air to blow away most spores ?

golly · 09-30-06, 11:12

Dried Pans taste like unsweetened chocolate to me..So it never bothered me to just munch em ...Unlike Cubes which are kinda gross...

spacecake · 09-30-06, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hippie3

one could just use stems, no caps
or use compressed air to blow away most spores ?

Too. tiny hip..can't dose on stems only,thats a waste !..,and the spores are difficult to get rid off.

spacecake · 09-30-06, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by golly

Dried Pans taste like unsweetened chocolate to me..So it never bothered me to just munch em ...Unlike Cubes which are kinda gross...

They don't taste so bad Golly..your right,but have you ever made tea from spores overlayed Pans ? it looks awfull !

grove_shroomer · 09-30-06, 15:04

humm maby try and scrape them off gently

spacecake · 09-30-06, 15:45

Okay,I have made a 15 minute thea with 1.4 grams of Pans.. and filtered tru some cotton wool !

See the diffrence !

First pictures is without filtering..second with one time fitering !
Added a little cacao and almost tasted nothing !

spacecake · 09-30-06, 16:19

Hmmm strange ..I see no visuals yet after one hour !
Taken an extra .5 gram ! (after half hour)

I don't think this had to do anything with filtering..had some ''Morning glory wine'' yesterday..maybe that stuff does work ! (wasn't sure)

That's the trouble with shrooms..to late to dose higher now !

golly · 09-30-06, 16:37

I hate when that happens....I think it's time to eat your filter...heh

spacecake · 09-30-06, 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by golly

I hate when that happens....I think it's time to eat your filter...heh

Hahah that thought came to my mind...impossible

Still nothing ..don't even feel the extra .5

Waste of some good shrooms,but filtering worked ! (I think)

Lazlo · 09-30-06, 17:36

Were the mushrooms dry? That's odd.

spacecake · 09-30-06, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo

Were the mushrooms dry? That's odd.

Yep,potency is good I now for sure...

I'm still sober...

Lazlo · 09-30-06, 18:33

15 minutes seems short IMO. I do my tea's for around 60-90 minutes on a simmer. My teas will straight bitch slap ya too! lol

spacecake · 09-30-06, 18:43

Hahaha Lazlo you are kidding me..
Waste of time... lol

But this isn't the issue here...
And I'm not hard-headed... I even feel .2 grams !

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 18:45

Wow. That's crazy. 1.4 grams should be a good dose even if over boiled. I've always felt that there is some correlation between sporulation and decrease in potency but still...that's like almost 3 grams of cubies. Should have felt something.

So many factors can come into play when it comes to one of those "let down" trips though and many of us have had them. Lol, that was one reason I went to tea and extracts because just eating them has always been hit and miss with me. Tea and extracts are more consistent imo.

I wonder if the morning glory wine is playing some role. Any difference in eating or sleeping patterns? Stress? Been eating a lot of shrooms lately?

That tea looks strong! It's probably something physical.

Lazlo · 09-30-06, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Hahaha Lazlo you are kidding me..
Waste of time... lol

But this isn't the issue here...
And I'm not hard-headed... I even feel .2 grams !

No i'm not kidding. Geeze, the mushrooms are hardly re-hydrated again (if they were cracker dry) in that short of amount of time. No matter what genus by the way.

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo

15 minutes seems short IMO. I do my tea's for around 60-90 minutes on a simmer. My teas will straight bitch slap ya too! lol

hehe :eusa_smack!

There's always so much concern about psilo break down with heat yet Lazlo is showing that even after long exposure to heat there is still plenty of kick left. 60-90 minutes

that's a shocker to me. I've never gone longer than a half hour. 15 minutes is long enough at a slightly higher temp and with a good squeezing after but 50 degrees in either direction could make a lot of difference. I've done 15 minute batches at lower temps that were virtual failures. Perhaps the heat wasn't high enough.

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabby

I never tried tea... can't you just put the shrooms in cold water first, agitate them a bit to get the some of the spores off and then take them out and then make the tea?

Interesting idea. I'm not sure how effective it would be on Pans becuase they are so small and delicate but for big cubies it might work. Some sort of light brush may be required. Seems like a lot of extra work for something that is easily disguised with cocoa though. hehe and after spending an hour or so at a sink washing freshly picked outdoor edibles I'm ready to be lazy!

spacecake · 09-30-06, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_chosen_one

I wonder if the morning glory wine is playing some role. Any difference in eating or sleeping patterns? Stress? Been eating a lot of shrooms lately?

That tea looks strong! It's probably something physical.

Must be the cross tolerence of the wine...it had aboud 100-300 flowers in it !

Stress ? what is that ! lol
I had dosed shrooms every weekend now (to get to now the shroom if you now what I mean..not for fun) ,did notice a little degree in effect,but definitly not this much !

Oh well.. no wine left anymore...will dose 1.5g again next week ,to see if it will be better !

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo

No i'm not kidding. Geeze, the mushrooms are hardly re-hydrated again (if they were cracker dry) in that short of amount of time. No matter what genus by the way.

Mine are always re-hydrated after about 7-10 minutes. I wonder if the difference in temps plays a role there too. hehe and I saw that before the edit..hahaha I bet you have a mushie mud mustache after drinking yours too!!! Lol, now I gotta try Lazlos tea!

Nabby · 09-30-06, 19:09

Maybe tea wasn't such a good idea? My personal reccomendation is to grind up your mushies and mix with a little bit of peanut butter and slap it on a cracker. I know some people say PB causes a little bit of nausea, but with pans, you hardly need any, and last time I ate shroomy PB I was trippin hard within 20 minutes of downing my sandwich.

spacecake · 09-30-06, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo

No i'm not kidding. Geeze, the mushrooms are hardly re-hydrated again (if they were cracker dry) in that short of amount of time. No matter what genus by the way.

I have let the shrooms sit for 10 minutes in cold water before the 15 minute boiling time.

Next time I prob back to capsuls..I hate the smel of boiling shrooms

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Must be the cross tolerence of the wine...it had aboud 100-300 flowers in it !

Stress ? what is that ! lol
I had dosed shrooms every weekend now (to get to now the shroom if you now what I mean..not for fun) ,did notice a little degree in effect,but definitly not this much !

Oh well.. no wine left anymore...will dose 1.5g again next week ,to see if it will be better !

Once a week, you could be experiencing tolerance build up. I don't know a thing about the interactions of morning glory with psilo but I suppose it could be possible. I'm still thinking maybe boiling temp..or a combination of factors.

Did you give them a good squeeze after making the tea?

spacecake · 09-30-06, 19:23

Yep I sqeezed them very hard !

Only thing that went wrong was the first minute...
I have an induction cooking plate that is very fast !
I lost 50 % of the water the first minute because it was boiling like crazy ! (didn't see it happen)

Could be a factor !
Can 'psilo' evaporate with the water ?

the_chosen_one · 09-30-06, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecake

Yep I sqeezed them very hard !

Only thing that went wrong was the first minute...
I have an induction cooking plate that is very fast !
I lost 50 % of the water the first minute because it was boiling like crazy ! (didn't see it happen)

Could be a factor !
Can 'psilo' evaporate with the water ?

Maybe a little. I'm usually left with 50% or a little less after 15 minutes. Maybe the heat was just too high.

grove_shroomer · 09-30-06, 19:59

dam that sucks i would try the pb idea think about at lunch time u pull out a pb and j sadwich at work 20 mins later ur a magical elf lol

cherkropper · 09-30-06, 21:06

Capsules get past the taste buds.
Also an acetone wash of the shroom powder takes away a lot of stomach problems. Filter out the acetone (along with some spores and fats ) through a coffee filter and let the powder dry before you load the gel caps.

Lazlo · 09-30-06, 21:13

Looooooooooong sloooooooooooooooow simmer works every time. None of this coffee maker b.s. or boil in 15 minutes exc. A true whoop ass tea is made slowly with a little time and effort. An hour or so isn't a big deal when it comes to gettin your socks knocked off, or not knocked off.

Lazlo · 09-30-06, 21:19

By the way, just simmer the mushrooms until they are brown, slimey and spent. No matter how long it takes.

the_chosen_one · 10-01-06, 11:28

Question Laz....when I make my tea I start with a full cup of water (per dose)and usually end up with 1/2 - 1/3 cup in the end due to evaporation. How much water do you start with per dose to expose the water to heat for so long? Or do you even calculate for an evaporation factor. Details my man!

Lazlo · 10-01-06, 13:08

I just start with the total amount you want to take per dose, both water and mushrooms in a covered pot. You can tell how much water you want to maintain throughout the simmering process by the starting water line in the pot. Then simply keep adding a smidge of water to maintain that water line until the mushrooms are nice and spent. Cool, filter and drink.

grove_shroomer · 10-01-06, 14:43

wont that make it weker diluting it?

Lazlo · 10-01-06, 15:06

No. All your doing is maintaining the amount of water you plan to dose throughout the simmering process. Or you can allow it to reduce down to were you only have to consume a tiny bit. Whatever floats your boat.

grove_shroomer · 10-01-06, 15:11

true i see ur point i would still rater only have to drink 1/2 a cup rater then 1 cup but ito each his own

Doctor D · 10-02-06, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazlo

15 minutes seems short IMO. I do my tea's for around 60-90 minutes on a simmer. My teas will straight bitch slap ya too! lol

Really? I let my dried, ground shrooms sit in a cup of hot water for about 5 minutes before I throw in a couple ice cubes and gulp the whole thing down, dregs and all. Kicks in hard in 15 minutes.

If it's the simple act of grinding the mushrooms into powder that creates the fast come-on, then it follows that your trip should come on equally hard and fast without making tea, no?

BuckarooBanzai · 10-02-06, 21:44

Wow, um, am I the only one who just weighs 'em out and chews 'em up? Lots of stuff tastes WAY worse than cubies to me. Amis are far worse (especially dried).

For my sweetie (who can't stand 'em plain), I grind the dry fruit in a coffee grinder and then press 'em into 00 gelcaps the day of the trip. Works out to just about .5gm per cap, so dosage is a breeze.

Doctor D · 10-02-06, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckarooBanzai

Wow, um, am I the only one who just weighs 'em out and chews 'em up? Lots of stuff tastes WAY worse than cubies to me. Amis are far worse (especially dried).

I can't. The taste makes me gag. If I can get them down, I'm good for the remainder of the trip. Even fresh ones sometimes give me a problem.

How do pans taste in comparison to cubes? Do they have a similar flavour? I've often wondered how other psilocybes taste. I had some fresh-picked non-cubes from Hawaii ones, but there was no telling what sort they were by the time I got them.

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09-29-06, 13:21	#1 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Pan Tea I have a question...! My last batch of Pans are loaded with spores. I want to make a thea from them (normally I make capsules),..but I want to get rid of the bad tasting spores ! Do you guys think ,I shall try to filter the mushroom thea with a coffie filter ? __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-29-06, 13:45	#2 (permalink)
lost_onabbey_rd The Lost Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 1,756	the spores will definatly go right threw a coffee filter... i think your pretty much stuck with them now.. i'd say the best bet on not tasting them is mix a good bit of hot cocco powder with your tea.. covers the taste of mush very well LOST __________________ Plant a seed, It will grow, So it's been, Sow the show To think outside the box, sometimes it is nessecary to step, outside the box

09-29-06, 14:27	#3 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	I'll try that..thanks Lost ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-29-06, 18:24	#5 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,120	I just did some pan tea last weekend and had to use cocoa because a two gram dose came out very dark. :eusa sourpuss and :eusa almostpuke The cocoa hid the taste quite effectivley. As far as potency it seemed just fine. My standard rule of thumb when making tea is exactly 15 minutes at a medium boil. Bring the water to a boil first. __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

09-29-06, 18:15	#4 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,198	I've never tried Pan tea Space, but i'm interested to know how that turns out - efficiency wise...I was concerned that the high psilocin content might be easily oxidized in hot water...

09-29-06, 21:21	#6 (permalink)
max canadian Join Date: Apr 1971 Posts: 854	How about waiting until all the spores have been dropped?

09-29-06, 21:29	#7 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	JUST ADD SOMETING TO HIDE THE TASTE i normaly just just oj since i dont make teas allways told heat distroys shrrooms so i never tryed it humm

09-29-06, 23:20	#8 (permalink)
lost_onabbey_rd The Lost Join Date: Apr 1972 Posts: 1,756	think he is refering to the spores that already deposited on the caps as well.. but printing them all till there ain't non left in the cap would also probibly help lower the spore count in your mouth LOST __________________ Plant a seed, It will grow, So it's been, Sow the show To think outside the box, sometimes it is nessecary to step, outside the box

09-29-06, 23:56	#9 (permalink)
apokalypse Dr. Durgs Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,456	Spores have a taste now? I've never noticed

09-30-06, 01:12	#10 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,120	I didn't have trouble with spores, just a dark wicked brew Pans always do that in tea for me. Even a 1 gram dose of some vars can make an almost blue tea. There is some breaking down of the good stuff while boiling but they are so strong to begin with the difference is probably fairly minimal. I always have to use cocoa though because I really just can't stand that taste and texture of tea by itself. __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

09-30-06, 04:17	#11 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	I'm still gonne try filtering,with a couple of different things and let you now if something works,gonne try the chocolate as well ! I thought I was the only one with this ugly dark thea thing,was I wrong...! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-30-06, 07:59	#12 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	w8t pans are stonger the cubis??? sorry im a noob at all this, maby washing them with some water will take them off or a damp cloth

09-30-06, 10:48	#14 (permalink)
Nabby Mushroom Muncher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 496	I never tried tea... can't you just put the shrooms in cold water first, agitate them a bit to get the some of the spores off and then take them out and then make the tea? __________________ "Why" is the only question that bothers people enough to have an entire letter of the alphabet named after it.

09-30-06, 11:08	#15 (permalink)
Hippie3 DUNG DEALER Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 43,266	one could just use stems, no caps or use compressed air to blow away most spores ? __________________ visit dial-a-hippie .

09-30-06, 11:12	#16 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,198	Dried Pans taste like unsweetened chocolate to me..So it never bothered me to just munch em ...Unlike Cubes which are kinda gross...

09-30-06, 15:04	#19 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	humm maby try and scrape them off gently

09-30-06, 16:19	#21 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Hmmm strange ..I see no visuals yet after one hour ! Taken an extra .5 gram ! (after half hour) I don't think this had to do anything with filtering..had some ''Morning glory wine'' yesterday..maybe that stuff does work ! (wasn't sure) That's the trouble with shrooms..to late to dose higher now ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-30-06, 16:37	#22 (permalink)
golly modapotato Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,198	I hate when that happens....I think it's time to eat your filter...heh

09-30-06, 17:36	#24 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	Were the mushrooms dry? That's odd. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-30-06, 18:33	#26 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	15 minutes seems short IMO. I do my tea's for around 60-90 minutes on a simmer. My teas will straight bitch slap ya too! lol __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-30-06, 18:43	#27 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Hahaha Lazlo you are kidding me.. Waste of time... lol But this isn't the issue here... And I'm not hard-headed... I even feel .2 grams ! __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-30-06, 18:45	#28 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,120	Wow. That's crazy. 1.4 grams should be a good dose even if over boiled. I've always felt that there is some correlation between sporulation and decrease in potency but still...that's like almost 3 grams of cubies. Should have felt something. So many factors can come into play when it comes to one of those "let down" trips though and many of us have had them. Lol, that was one reason I went to tea and extracts because just eating them has always been hit and miss with me. Tea and extracts are more consistent imo. I wonder if the morning glory wine is playing some role. Any difference in eating or sleeping patterns? Stress? Been eating a lot of shrooms lately? That tea looks strong! It's probably something physical. __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

09-30-06, 19:09	#34 (permalink)
Nabby Mushroom Muncher Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 496	Maybe tea wasn't such a good idea? My personal reccomendation is to grind up your mushies and mix with a little bit of peanut butter and slap it on a cracker. I know some people say PB causes a little bit of nausea, but with pans, you hardly need any, and last time I ate shroomy PB I was trippin hard within 20 minutes of downing my sandwich. __________________ "Why" is the only question that bothers people enough to have an entire letter of the alphabet named after it.

09-30-06, 19:23	#37 (permalink)
spacecake Universal Mod Join Date: May 1972 Posts: 4,734	Yep I sqeezed them very hard ! Only thing that went wrong was the first minute... I have an induction cooking plate that is very fast ! I lost 50 % of the water the first minute because it was boiling like crazy ! (didn't see it happen) Could be a factor ! Can 'psilo' evaporate with the water ? __________________ "As a child, i could walk on the ceiling. I'd butterfly up on the walls"

09-30-06, 19:59	#39 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	dam that sucks i would try the pb idea think about at lunch time u pull out a pb and j sadwich at work 20 mins later ur a magical elf lol

09-30-06, 21:06	#40 (permalink)
cherkropper Mycophage Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 150	Capsules get past the taste buds. Also an acetone wash of the shroom powder takes away a lot of stomach problems. Filter out the acetone (along with some spores and fats ) through a coffee filter and let the powder dry before you load the gel caps.

09-30-06, 21:13	#41 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	Looooooooooong sloooooooooooooooow simmer works every time. None of this coffee maker b.s. or boil in 15 minutes exc. A true whoop ass tea is made slowly with a little time and effort. An hour or so isn't a big deal when it comes to gettin your socks knocked off, or not knocked off. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

09-30-06, 21:19	#42 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	By the way, just simmer the mushrooms until they are brown, slimey and spent. No matter how long it takes. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-01-06, 11:28	#43 (permalink)
the_chosen_one Darth Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,120	Question Laz....when I make my tea I start with a full cup of water (per dose)and usually end up with 1/2 - 1/3 cup in the end due to evaporation. How much water do you start with per dose to expose the water to heat for so long? Or do you even calculate for an evaporation factor. Details my man! __________________ "Luck favors the observant." - Workman

10-01-06, 13:08	#44 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	I just start with the total amount you want to take per dose, both water and mushrooms in a covered pot. You can tell how much water you want to maintain throughout the simmering process by the starting water line in the pot. Then simply keep adding a smidge of water to maintain that water line until the mushrooms are nice and spent. Cool, filter and drink. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-01-06, 14:43	#45 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	wont that make it weker diluting it?

10-01-06, 15:06	#46 (permalink)
Lazlo old hand Join Date: Mar 1970 Posts: 7,591	No. All your doing is maintaining the amount of water you plan to dose throughout the simmering process. Or you can allow it to reduce down to were you only have to consume a tiny bit. Whatever floats your boat. __________________ How can you have any pudding, if you don't eat your MEAT?

10-01-06, 15:11	#47 (permalink)
grove_shroomer Former Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 59	true i see ur point i would still rater only have to drink 1/2 a cup rater then 1 cup but ito each his own

10-02-06, 21:44	#49 (permalink)
BuckarooBanzai Prone to ranting... Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,050	Wow, um, am I the only one who just weighs 'em out and chews 'em up? Lots of stuff tastes WAY worse than cubies to me. Amis are far worse (especially dried). For my sweetie (who can't stand 'em plain), I grind the dry fruit in a coffee grinder and then press 'em into 00 gelcaps the day of the trip. Works out to just about .5gm per cap, so dosage is a breeze. __________________ Banzai Institute for Higher Education (a collection of growing Teks & threads)