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10-10-06, 12:48
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| modapotato  Join Date: Oct 2005
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 | A cheap and effective filter When you need an extra fine filtration of some liquid - it really helps to apply suction or pressure, to force the liquid through the membrane.. Here i used a one gallon apple juice container with a hole melted into the handle for the pressure line, which is glued in with goop...The handle has much thicker plastic and makes for a secure location.. The Line is 1/4" aquarium type tubing connected in this case to a hand pump ..You could use a bicycle pump ,aquarium pump or even just blow it up with yo mouth... The plastic lid from the jug is drilled with a few small holes and a filter can be made from a vacuum cleaner bag or disc filter for spawn jars ect. The filter is cut to exact size of the lid by inverting the bottle and drawing a circle around the threads ....then cutting out....So its held in place when the lid is screwed down on the jug... Most liquids are prefiltered first through a strainer of some sort to remove larger particals ,then the result is poured into this bottle ...Screw the filter n' cap on and invert over a catching bowl ...start pumping... A filtration that would normally take hours is reduced to a few seconds... I will be doing a 1 micron filtration soon and will post the results... |
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10-11-06, 07:35
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10-17-06, 08:38
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| Thanx fer the comments... Here , 70 dry grams in everclear is filtered first through a coffy filter to remove all major particals.. The result is in the first pic - it's a bit cloudy.. Next ,the solution was poured into the pressure bottle and the cap with a 3 micron + a 1 micron filter was screwed in place.. The bottle was then inverted over the collecting jar and pressure applied.. It took about 3 mins to push everything through.. It's clear to see the resulting sludge stuck to the 3 micron disc , Not much was collected on the one micron, so it's proly of no benefit to go that small. The last pic shows the clarified brew... |
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10-17-06, 10:22
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| The next step was to place the solution in the deep freeze and precipitate out more junk... A collection of crystals and a thick oily substance are easily seperated by pouring off , then filtering the last bit of juice in a coffy filter.. The first pic is the oily sludge +crystals to be discarded.... I have tried consuming this crystal mix twice with little effect , so i consider it to be just more junk to be removed... The second pic is the good stuff,,yet to be evapourated down to aprox 3 ml to every dry gram of original mushroomz... That means about 3/4 of the liquid evapourated under a fan..It should take about 12 hours.... |
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10-17-06, 11:07
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| I love simple stuff like this. Killer idea. Much easier to build up pressure than vaccum, also. Your extract color is beautiful. Is it really that red/vermillion in person?
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10-17-06, 12:47
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10-17-06, 12:55
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| you can get it there, spacey everclear = ethanol = grain alchohol i have a bottle of 'grappo' from europe that would work. white lightning made with grapes basically. Bacardi 151 should work also. hope that helps some? good luck  great writeup here golly! |
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10-17-06, 13:03
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| What is the strongest liquor available Space..? You can certainly extract into lower Proof alcohol but cant say how well it will keep...If for instance you extract into clear 151 Rum and you begin to see the color changing from amber to a greenish color, then it is degrading ime... Using any other solvent would mean u would have to evapourate completely before ingesting and not worth the trouble imo... |
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10-19-06, 13:06
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| OK ...Here's the final product ..These bottles are 2 inches tall ... The one in the middle is from a previous extraction and is supposed to be the same concentration... Either these shrooms are stronger or a better extraction occured... You can clearly see crystals suspended in solution - i think those are the real deal and not the same junk seen at the bottom of the center bottle.. The crystals formed in the evapouration stage and have not been in the freezer... |
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10-19-06, 18:10
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| my last extraction was not a failure but the results was far from being as good as yours, with; what seemed to be more work. i will def. use this tek my next go....Thank you thank you thank you 17 bottles..DAMN. 1)how long do you soak your liq and shrooms, 2)how long do you "Deep Freeze"? 24hrs or so? |
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10-19-06, 19:45
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| this really nice idea Golly!! and this simple hand pump looks really convenient i mean this small and portable and you cant really make your bottle explode with a little handpump like this compared to compressed air haha i would be interested to know how big are the alkaloids in the everclear solution a micron is kinda thin hehe only a curiosity
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10-19-06, 21:15
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| Heh... A filter fine enough to catch a molecule of psilly - i dunno ,some kind of osmosis dealio...Easier to evapourate down to the bare essence ,which is pretty unstable for keeping - from what i hear... Coyote...This time the shrooms were soaked for about 3 weeks at room temp ...The addition of the Ascorbic acid crystals [ half teaspoon per qt] seemed to speed up the process ,because the following day i noticed much more Amber coloration in the jar... I freeze precipitated for a day.... I dont want ya to think i'm an expert on these extractions ,cause i'm not.. This is around the 6th time ..My first was a total bust...lol.. I'm gonna test the new batch this weekend..I think it's going to be good..  |
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10-19-06, 21:29
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| Dude, I'm just glad you are reporting straight up on what you did and what you have found/seen. If it was me, I would do a little pre-dose prep with a bit of Rolaids/Tagamet. I've got a very tender tummy for acid upset, though. Very interested in your post consumption write up!
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10-22-06, 13:41
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| Well that was a sweet ride last nyt... A third of a bottle [ 5ml ] mixed in apple juice...Very appealing flavour and a gradual rise to a 4 hour plateau.. Suprizingly though, the bottle pictured above, from a previous extraction is more potent,,,So the deepness of the amber coloration is not an indicator of potency....Which actually makes sense when i did the math [70 grams dry into 17 bottles] The extraction was about 88% efficient ,which is pretty good for Everclear.. The difference between the last extract and this one is - the Ascorbic acid was added at the start this time ,,but after filtration on the previous one.. I assumed this brew was more potent because of the deep color and formation of crystals while evapourating .. Still , I'm very happy with the result - A lovely aromatic liqueur of hallucinogenic proportions which should last a long time...Heh.. Thanx fer the props... |
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10-22-06, 13:59
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| Nice golly. I guess extract color is as much of an indicator as blueing in fresh tissue ehh? The only true way to know is to have a taste  and tell the story Im going to have to give it a whirl one day. Where go you get your filters from?
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10-22-06, 15:32
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| If the extraction is done the same way every time ,then the amber color maybe more alighned with the potency... Cap.. My past experience with fresh frozen mush was a real bust as the shrooms lost most of their potency after thawing and making tea -they quickly turn to a blue black goo..... |
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10-22-06, 19:27
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| Well about all you can do with freshies is make a tea ,which has a limited shelf life ...Using everclear to extract from wet zoomers would still degrade in a few weeks imo... BTW Ped...i bought the filters from Sporeworks they are normally used for Jar filters and have 3 micron pores...U could use a Hepa vacuum cleaner bag cut to size , proly best to test the material in everclear first though... |
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10-22-06, 19:56
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| Are you gonna maybe toss one of the bottles in the freezer for a term storage test? Great thread man.
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