Can you steep mushies for tea too long?

[Snake&Bacon]

A FOAF is going to be travelling soon and is thinking of putting the crushed, dried fruit and hot water in a bottle, and not drinking it until later in the day. If the fruit is left steeping in warm water for say 5 - 6 hours, will that degrade some of the magic? Or does that just help pull all the magic out of the fruit as the day progresses?

[Soliver1]

Should be fine.
He could always just make the tea and then
strain & put into a bottle, saving him the
anxiety of walking around with a chunky concoction

mushrooms tend to turn to mush when steaped for tea after 20 min or so. the infuse will be fairly light in color for tea but it sure is damn strong. i'd recommend waiting and making the tea just before use as well to avoid the mushly sludge that preparation a few hours in advance will create.

p.s. in my experience the water doesn't have to be super hot either, just until the water starts to boil. excessive heat is bad for psil.

[Snake&Bacon]

Thanks for the advice. He won't be able to mix just prior to use or strain it beforehand for various reasons. If anything interesting happens or we have anything to add, I'll follow up with a post.

[python]

i simply bring a cup/mug of water to a boil, break up my shrooms into small pieces and throw them in the boiling water and let them boil for 15 minutes (i do not steep), then i turn off the heat, strain out the mushrooms/shroom-matter, and pour the liquid into a glass, and i add a tea bag, once i have tea i add a lot of ice and a lemon and sugar........works every time

[Fongo]

How long do you guys think tea would last?

a couple days?
a week?
a month?

[vrooota]

frozen, I think it could last forever

[taoistshredder]

The drug will slowly degrade and oxidize over time - to eliminate this from happening (well, not eliminate, but hinder) take either a lemon as Python suggested or use some crushed vitamin C tablets - the C works as an antioxidant and will keep your tea fresher longer. As far as shelf-life there's really no telling, imo, it all depends on how you make it; straight water I've seen kick the bucket within 12-24 hours. I've kept tea the following tea for extended periods (I'm talking a week here) and noticed no considerable loss, but it was also in the fridge, as well as having the lemons and C tablets.
http://mycotopia.net/discus/messages...tml?1081172924
Wow that shit's way back when - lol - look at my post count: now that's some funny shit.
EDIT: You can boil your tea for 10-15 minutes as Python says instead of heating it for an hour at 150 as suggested in my recipe - there is no noticable difference in degradation imo.
EDIT (AGAIN): That picture's of Python and me after we met this wasted blonde chick at a party - we took her back to the spot and showed her how tha' Tea Masters do it.

[SgtFRP]

Wow. You guys know any shroom eatin cats?

[dead_diver]

Be carefull with keeping tea in the fridge unfrozen. I did that once with wild picked shrooms and I made the tea by simmering, not boiling, for about 5 minutes or so. Tea was good the first day then I put it in the fridge for a few days.Later when I went to take a swig it felt oddly grainy in my mouth so I held the glass up to the light only to see thousands of tiny pinworm maggots in the tea. Mmmm yummy!

[nomoreusmc]

Originally Posted by dead_diver

Be carefull with keeping tea in the fridge unfrozen. I did that once with wild picked shrooms and I made the tea by simmering, not boiling, for about 5 minutes or so. Tea was good the first day then I put it in the fridge for a few days.Later when I went to take a swig it felt oddly grainy in my mouth so I held the glass up to the light only to see thousands of tiny pinworm maggots in the tea. Mmmm yummy!

I'v never heard such an awfull story, man that sucks. That whould have made me wreach!

[anticheffy]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

thats one for fear factor

[nicholas]

So...did the maggot/shroom tea brew lose any potency?

[dead_diver]

Did it lose potency? I don't know, I spit most of it out and then poured a full gallon of tea down the drain. It was a bummer.

[dead_diver]

It's not uncommon to get worms and maggots and clumps of dirt or cow shit in fresh shrooms and sometimes you have to skim em off the tea as it's simmering. But that was the only time I ever incubated a gallon of maggots LOL

[mushit]

If they were cooked they should be OK... If you like that sort of thing.........

[Lazlo]

If you've seen my tea tek that I previously posted, you'll see that I steep my fungus until they turn brown and slimy. This is key when making tea. Steeping past this point is a waste and stopping the steep before isn't getting all the actives. If you plan to store long term, simply can the tea with a 1qt jar. It will last for quite sometime in the refridgerator.

[Throbbinwood]

How much of the pycily goes into the tea? Is there any left in the mushies or do you just throw them out? What about cooking a mushroom ommelette? will cooking mushies in the eggs ruin the magic?

[python]

magic goes into the water from boiling and i throw shroom material out


psilocybin has been seen to degrade at high temps........i believe it is said to start at 190F...........now boiling water is slightly higher than 200F but it has been seen many times that a short boil will not harm potency.....

On that note........eggs in a pan may have temps too high and degrade the psilocybin.......


gl

[SnakeMan]

i prefer to just chop away at them. love the taste but many do not

[LethalTr1p]

Originally Posted by Throbbinwood

How much of the pycily goes into the tea? Is there any left in the mushies or do you just throw them out? What about cooking a mushroom ommelette? will cooking mushies in the eggs ruin the magic?

i saw a post here some time ago of a guy that bbq'd a couple large mushrooms. didn't seem to cause any compound breakdown. seems most cooking temps dont hurt mushies. i'd be weary of baking them with something for exdented periods of time. i'm sure 350+ for any amount of time would cause some loss. i could be wrong there too though.

[wayback]

When I was younger we made spagatti sauce from fresh shrooms, with no discernable loss of potency. Of course, we never actually boiled the sauce, just simmered most of the day, while we simmered most of that night.

[Hippie3]

a quick stir-fry should do little harm
on the all day steep-
i'd use cold water, not hot.

[reverend trips]

i saw a post here some time ago of a guy that bbq'd a couple large mushrooms

That guy still BBQ's freshies every chance he gets

didn't seem to cause any compound breakdown

Most likely some magic was destroyed, but there comes a time in a growers life when he has too many shrooms to care about wasting a little magic, so if you hate the taste of cubensis, and don't care about a little loss in potency than throw them on the grill and baste them with hotsauce!
Grill'm till the sauce is caramallized on them and the caps are crunchy...mmmm
they really do loose the shitty taste and are quite enjoyable.

[alounacara]

You need to start/make a Reverend Trips cook/recipe book
and sell them in Hippies store
Id probably buy one
There has to be a nice recipe for a reefer/shrooms stir fry
Theres a cool mix of Mycotopiates posting in this thread
I just burned a little one and that thought occured to me

[Lazlo]

Originally Posted by reverend trips

That guy still BBQ's freshies every chance he gets

Just make sure not to eat the bbq'd mushrooms before the bbq'd ribs.

[lyqwyd]

Originally Posted by alounacara

There has to be a nice recipe for a reefer/shrooms stir fry

make pot butter/canola oil 50/50 mix, then stir fry ur mushies w. a bunch of your favorite veggies. add a little ginger, garlic and soy sauce, hot peppers if u like too, then munch down. works good as long as u fry quickly. very tasty. dammit, now im hungry. too bad its not pot butter season where i am.

[Killjoy]

Originally Posted by SgtFRP

Wow. You guys know any shroom eatin cats?

Mine seems to like them, taste and all.

He's a big boy (almost 20 lbs) and .2 Grams is all he gets but we seem to have a grand time together...

The mere scent of weed sends him bolting out of the room though-to each his own I guess.

Back on the topic of a year ago- I had a tea survive in a water bottle in my bag all the way to Hawaii, then sitting on the hotel dresser for 5 days till it was needed.