Blue Honey

[Hippie3]

tek taken from our DVD

from the forest floor
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Suntzu

Vagitarian

Posted:
Oct. 29 2002,2:06



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You can get it pretty blue; The problem is that the color doesn't seem to last very long.
Honey is best used to preserve dried, IMO. It creates a nearly oxygen-free environment, if you freeze the goo it is about as good of preservation as normal people are going to be able to get. Zero bluing, which is a good thing of course.

You can trash a lot of fresh fruits trying for the blue honey

My attempt at that magical elf treat started by trying to get the most blue-rich material possible. That meant throwing fresh fruits in the freezer and giving them the Quik Chop

[Hippie3]

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Thought it might be a good idea to use the mortar, let things sit out in the sun for awhile;

[Hippie3]

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Here's a shot of a concoction that looked pretty blue-green:

[Hippie3]

I continued doing this in aliquots, drying the material as much as possible in the process without getting it completely black. This way, I was able to fit nearly an ounce of mostly-dried fruits into a small jar of honey. Adding even slightly fresh mushies to honey is dangerous business, the honey sucks the water from them, diluting itself and becoming prone to contamination.

Once this bottle of honey had settled out, though, the green faded. It seemed to occur over the course of a week. Unsure whether that means the color was from suspended material only, or that the indoles broke down. Since most of the mushroom chunks are now lighter in color, I suspect that they broke down.
Have no inkling of potency.
The best way to go with honey, IMO is to grind cracker-dry fruits and mix thoroughly. Maybe add food coloring

This is the honey after first making it. I should have had the light better, but what can you do. It was definitely somewhat blue-green as the stuff in the pic above

[Hippie3]

I kept it in the freezer for awhile, it actually seemed to stay a bit green. Condensation on the bottle. . .

[Hippie3]

This was 3 months later, cool room temp-storage. Not much green-blue at all. Maybe it would have retained the color if I'd left it in the freezer.
I don't hold any hope that it is active, but who knows?

The lesson I took from this is that the blue compounds are more fragile than I thought.

Edited by Suntzu on Oct. 29 2002,11:13

So then what happened? Was it no good at all? Does this mean we should only make the magic honey with dried? I dunno, this just seemed like a funny tek to print just to say not to do it, LOL... Maybe I am just confused....

http://mycotopia.net/discus/messages...tml?1035934374

Maybe he shouldn't have grinded it up and left it sit in the sun? Archives say you can use fresh or dried, with fresh just pour off water. Chopping wouldn't be a bad idea, though, would it?

[Hippie3]

lol
i'm quite certain it was still potent,
he just hadn't tried it yet then.
he was more going for the 'color'

[space_ghost]

Honey storage is so disgusting, sorry.

[Hippie3]

different strokes

[shedthemonkey]

kinda makes me think of those peeps who enjoy Cannabutter. Even if the magic is still potent in the honey, it makes it a little difficult to gauge dose. Anyone have experience with dosing blue honey?

No worries, whatever ya eat, it won't kill ya....

[cactus_muncher]

The dose depends on howmutch you put in the jar if you add 2 tbs of honey fore each gram of dried mushrooms then you could just eat 2 tbs for evry gram you wanted in your dose
I have ben makeing shroom honey fore about 9 years now but i never tryed to make it blue i just made it because it makes damm good tea and it makes a mean benut butter and honey sanwitch

For the record, honey storage of fresh mushrooms is highly questionable on many levels, and NOT beginner friendly, IMHFO.

However, if you have a extra dry ounce or more, and don't know what to do with it, grind or break it up small (less than 1/2 inch pieces) and cover them with honey. After a few weeks, you'll have gummy sweet mushroom candies/honey spread. absolutely heavenly!

Don't spend this two cents all in the same place...


Peace,
Shaman

[xoe]

ok i was looking in an older issue of high times magazine and they had an article
on extracting the psycho activeness out of mushrooms using honey.all they did was take a giant jar full of honey and put a whole bunch of fresh shrooms into it.they said let it sit until the honey turned a blueish black.then take the shrooms out and any time you want to trip put a couple teaspoons of blue honey in some tea and you're all set.

i was just wondering if any of you have tried this and if so how well does it work?

i can scan the article later and post it here,it has some cool pictures!

[Stenciler]

here's a good tek...

http://forums.mycotopia.net/showthre...=honey+storage (Blue Honey)

[arezap]

Blue honey and the making thereof is documented in the archives here:
http://www.mycotopia.net/discus/messages/5/1707.html

[xoe]

hello,i'm back again.i got the article scanned but i don't know how to put it up here.any help?

[arezap]

Sure, post in advanced mode. Scroll down and you will see a "manage attachments button". Click there and browse for the file. Then click "upload" and the file should upload. Click close window. Add text to the post if you want and post it. you're done. Welcome to Mycotopia by the way. Always nice to see new people.

Ditto!

Originally Posted by zap

Welcome to Mycotopia by the way. Always nice to see new people.

[altered_states]

I read an article about blue honey in "High Times" too...
Many years ago.

That's actually one of the things that prompted me to grow my own...
According to the article, they must be freshly picked.
I really had no choice in the matter.

[Beastmaster]

The very first time I grew mushrooms I had no clue what I was doing, but the Professor's PF tek guided me along to success. However I had no clue how to dry them, and the only information on storing magic mushrooms that I was able to find, for some reason, was the blue honey method.

It worked great. However I never removed the shrooms just stored them in there, and I'd cut them up a bit first. The only problem is that dosing is a little difficult until you figure out how potent your honey is.

I think its important to use freshies, as some sort of osmosis or diffusion happens, not up on my chem terms, but the moisture content equalizes between the wet shrooms and the dry honey. Though I'm sure dried ones will store just fine, though the honey won't take on as much magic I imagine?

[Hippie3]

i like cannabutter/ghee, esp. when used to make fudge,
which is mostly butter & sugar & chocolate...

[TVCasualty]

As I currently have no fresh fruits to test with, I'm unable to do this yet, but I'm throwing it out here in case anyone else wants to try it first. I'll certainly do it next time freshies come in and report the results.

My plan is to dry off the surface moisture with a fan, until the mushroom is dry to the touch but not shriveled (20 minutes next to the fan ought to do it). Then I'll freeze them. When frozen, blend into small bits. Put in mason jar of honey, leaving a few inches of airspace between honey and top of jar. From lid, I'll hang a small mesh bag of silica gel chunks. My idea is that the silica will draw out the excess water, leaving a durable concoction that might retain all the potency of fresh (minimal oxidation) but not allow fermentation from too-high water content. We'll see...

[Bobcat]

I think you shouldn't waste your goods.

[hogwild]

Originally Posted by Bobcat

I think you shouldn't waste your goods.

I think that is a matter of your opinion,

I myself think its a great idea and an easy way to store a psychoactive substance. Who doesnt like a little honey on thier toast once in a while, or in some tea. You can make it as potent as you want, just add more mushrooms. How can you deny

[cap]

well that aint gonna work as the honey is too dense to draw moisture from within, just the top layer where you normally see the mold forming would be effected
i think its a good idea but just dry the musshies to bone dry first and then do it

lets face it, blue honey can't be had unless you sacrifice shelf-life or use some super duper blue dry mush......how about a coffee grinder?

[Hippie3]

it does work.

[perrch01]

wow, a lot of naysayers on the honey...

it works and its a damned cool idea, at least i think so

[cap]

lol im just talking shit
ive not tried it
but the theory that dessicant would draw excess water from the shrooms deep inside the jar is beyond me

im lost

[Hippie3]

true, the dessicant doesn't.
however when freshies are used in blue honey
water does seep out of the shrooms and pools on top,
this should be poured off & used in yer tea.

[Bobcat]

I believe the blue honey bit and think it would be a great idea. Just putting them in wet would spoil it and the desiccant wouldn't work. Sorry, should have been more clear. Not trying to detract you from a worthy experiment!

[Bobcat]

So it just layers? It doesn't become one big mess? That is interesting.